I hope you remember this the next time you negotiate a salary and don’t get what you want so you try to find another job but your boss won’t let you leave because they slapped a tag on you and now you get paid less than you wanted.
Le'Veon Bell sitting out the entire season.
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Did my boss make me the highest paid person at my job by more than $4 million dollars? Do people always get what they want in salary? Am I missing something there?
Listen I get your point, but the whole 'didn't get what I/he wants' thing just sounds kinda....strange. Does anyone get what they want in salary? Doesn't everyone want a little more?
Exactly. Bell was given an option and he didn’t take it. Now the front office is doing nothing to stop the fan base from turning on him. Now he’s the villain. He didn’t do anything wrong.
Which was less than he wanted by 3 million a year. To me the issue isn’t so much him not signing. Players leave all the time because they didn’t get enough.
To me it’s the Steelers slapped a tag on him. I hate the tag. They didn’t get it done and they didn’t even allow him to find out if he could have gotten paid as much as he wanted. In his situation, the only way to win is not to play.
Well he told fans in the off season that he would play this year. He told fans he still wanted to help the Steelers win a Super Bowl this season. All this was after he was tagged. His agent said he would skip camp then come in and play the whole season. The fans feel lied to.
And what should the front office do to stop the fan base from turning on him? Tomlin has tried to reach out to him just to talk for months. Bell has ignored every single call and text. He has had ZERO communication with the team. He has refused to take their calls for months. Now they are supposed to fight his PR battles for him?
I still don't like the tag.
How much of the $70M was guaranteed? Peyton Manning signed a $100M contract and was cut less than a year later.
I've read too much about the Bell situation out of boredom, I don't have a team I just like the league. I can tell you've done the same.
Bell isn't going to be better off financially and odds are he won't be playing on a team that he can replicate the numbers.
Does the situation highlight some issues with the CBA? Maybe, but the Steelers are winning this one.
$17M upfront.
$33M guaranteed in the first 2 years, $47 in the first 3.
And by the way, Peyton made $26.4M on that one year of the contract. He came out ok.
That's separate and apart from my dislike of the franchise tag.
If they couldn't come to terms, then Bell would be free to not play. I just dislike the rule that gives the team all the bargaing power.
I'm not saying Peyton got screwed. I'm just saying I don't like the franchise tag. That said, an NBA or MLB player signing a $100M contract will make all that money. Peyton made $0.25 on the dollar.
I don’t have any problem with Bell doing what he did, but he made a mistake.
The Steelers replaced him and made him look replaceable. He’s another year older and can’t play this season. Given how well Conner has played, other teams might not see Bell as the difference maker they once did.
He took a big chance, and it didn’t pay off.
The Steelers replaced him and made him look replaceable. He’s another year older and can’t play this season. Given how well Conner has played, other teams might not see Bell as the difference maker they once did.
He took a big chance, and it didn’t pay off.
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I'm willing to bet that the Pats will take a run at him if they are not sold on Sonny Michel. And Bell might take less than he should just to get back at the Steelers. (This would require Brady to take a pay decrease, but man, does he really need the money?) I just hope he ends up in the NFC as I don't want to see him play the Chiefs again.
The guy on NFL network on the late show replay feels there is tampering and Bell knows he has a deal out there.
A pretty bold claim IMO
A pretty bold claim IMO
I didn’t know about the deal the Steelers offered him before tagging him....what a dumbass.
I don't think he's really that good. Steeler's RB's seem to put up big numbers no matter who they are.
Steelers are rolling with James Conner now and he's putting up big numbers for them and they arn't paying him 14 mil.
Even if Bell really is that good, he's not worth the money he wants. I'm sure he can find a team dumb enough to pay him though.
Maybe he is being smart. It will be interesting to see how The League reacts. Lots of people thought Curt Flood was foolish and greedy to, back in the day.
Especially considering he played like dogshit.
I am glad the Steelers are done with Bell. He can go rap and smoke weed full time now.
The Pats have about $25M in cap space for 2019. Even if they clear out some there's not room. Since they have 6 picks in the first 3 rounds(and yeah, I know they will probably trade some of them down) and 12 picks overall, they will need at least $11M-$13M just for the rookies.
And after all this, there is no way Bell takes less than what he things he's worth out of spite. If he does he's even dumber than I thought. Why would he pass up $14.5M to take less than he thinks he's worth? He would be guaranteed to come out on the short end financially then. He wants BIG guaranteed money. That's what this entire episode is about.
I don't know if keeping the stats down to make them cheap is the reason. I would just say it is more or less the Pats operate on RB by committee and have for a long time now. They wouldn't spend the resources on a high level running back. Especially when good but not elite RB's are ridiculously cheap.
James White's contract right now is 3 years, 12 million with 5 million guaranteed.
He's making less over 3 years then the top RB's are making in 1 year.
You tell me, what's the better value?
I wouldn't want this guy on my team, no way. I hope this backfires on him and he ends up pumping gas somewhere.
Just curious, when you franchise tag a player is all that money guaranteed? If not, I can see why Bell is sitting out the whole year. If so, I don't understand what he is doing. Even if he signs a long term deal, I don't think he'll get too much more than $14 million up front.
Yes, when a player is tagged, the full salary for that year is guaranteed if/when the player signs the offer.
I was gonna take him but was second to last in my draft order. I got screwed on RB this year outside of Melvin Gordon, who has fortunately stayed healthy for the most part this year.
I'm a Steelers fan, and I can see both sides here. Pittsburgh almost never overpays, and their offer was what $18 million less guaranteed than Gurley got, so I can see where Bell is coming from.
He gave up $14.5 million this year in hopes that he will make a lot more than that in the next few years. You can't look at the full contract; when they say 5 years $60 million or whatever. It's all about the guaranteed money, as teams can rip up any contract they want. If he gets $30 million or more guaranteed with his next contract, it will have paid off. He did NOT want to play and get used up this season.
I won't miss him. It's kind of funny with this Steelers team. Their big 3 of Ben, Brown and Bell are all at the tops at their positions, yet are all very unlikable.
Keep in mind, Bell had already turned down the Steelers offer BEFORE Gurly got his extension.
Also Gurly is 2 years younger. Gurly has not been suspended for drug use. Bell is one failed test from a one year suspension. Gurly hasn’t missed NFL games due to injury, Bell has missed almost an entire season with injuries.
From what I have seen, which isn't much, is that is guarantee was only 10 million. That is substantially less then David Johnson and Todd Gurley. If this is true, good for him. He will get more guaranteed money.
He may, but not enough to make up the $14.5 million dollars he lost this season. In the long run he would have been better off playing this year.
Nope. A franchise tag contract is fully guaranteed. The player can be cut, but they get paid. This was a change a number of years ago.
You can be cut/traded, but the money is still guaranteed, at least that's how I've always read the rules. It really doesn't matter much, I can't think of a player who was tagged and then subsequently cut because he started sucking at football without any injuries.
