To be fair you don't know how good Iowa is going to be this year. Last year Iowa was one of the tougher games ISU played not one of the easier ones.
Little Bro being little bro.....
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To be fair you don't know how good Iowa is going to be this year. Last year Iowa was one of the tougher games ISU played not one of the easier ones.
Actually the Iowa team isu played last year was nothing like the Iowa team Nebraska, Minnesota, Indiana or even Michigan State played either. That team was much better at the end than it was in game #2.
How am I supposed to take this:
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LOL, we have no idea who the worst teams you play all year are because ISU is such trash, bottom 10 program year in and year out.
Iowa State was bad last year and I still know who the worst teams they played were.
Iowa State being bad last year has no bearing on looking at a schedule and determining the worst teams they played. To say "we have no idea who the worst teams you play all year are because ISU is such trash" doesn't even make sense. Kansas was easily the worst team ISU played which anyone can see and I just listed the other three worst teams they faced. Iowa wasn't one of them and I never implied Iowa was one of them.
Hard not to read it that way with your response to the quote. Fair enough not a biggie, whoever the idiot before you said that, now that was priceless.
CeMar clown is just like most isu grads. Iowa could win the national title, go undefeated and they would say we were one of the weaker teams they played all year while winning 2-4 games total.
Then they are shocked when they are laughed at and called clowns with little bro syndrome.
Curious to know how you arrive at this conclusion, LC?
The records seem to say differently. Since the series renewal in 1977, Iowa has somehow managed to have a better won/loss tally than does isu. Iowa is 23-15-1 in games over that span of time; isu is 22-17.
Whoa, you say... look how close it is! When one takes into account the fact that isu plays tougher competition, that explains the narrow margin of difference.
Except that Iowa faced something like twenty-eight opponents that in today's world would be and are considered Power 5 teams. isu, on the other hand, played a total of ten such teams, eleven counting Army. Guess Iowa should have scheduled Drake (faced isu four times each game in Ames), or Pacific (1X), or Indiana State (1X), or Troy (1X), or Tulane (2X), or MAC teams (10X) after the isu game. Who would have imagined?
Come to think about it, no need to reply. Looks exactly like so many other of your multi-thousands of posts here on HR. Throw it out there and hope no one else notices the complete lack of basis to your nefarious claim. So typical.
Wait is this yet another example of where isu grad shoots off their mouth without knowing any better?
I am betting they will go to their standard reply and try to cherry pick certain and select time frames. Who wants in?
Just pointing out what you conviently left out. You are the best at it. Seriously, you are better than the average bear at telling the truth without telling the whole truth.
My other favorite thing is when you point out an Iowa fan's obsession with ISU. You are usually spot on, and always more obsessed with Iowa than the accused is of Iowa State.
Never change, Honey. I know you won't.
Didn't we finish ranked higher than all but one team you played last year? Yeah, we did.
Either you have made an ill-fated attempt at satire and humor or have an IQ lower than Forrest Gump's.
Fan support declines and home attendance wanes when Iowa State continues to lose. Just like at Kinnick. The rest of what you said seems to support my comment that Dan McCarney may be Iowa State's Tom Davis.
Fan support at Iowa has always been strong compared to the alternative in Ames. That really was not the point. Iowa can point to several more opponents that have witnessed sold out crowds in Kinnick Stadium. Early on in a season, mid-point or even late in the year has and can bring now 70,585 fans into the venue. The same cannot be said with regard to Jack Trice. Typically for isu, it has been a non-conference game featuring either Iowa or UNI that has sold out their facility (used to include Nebraska when they were a part of the big xii). Only relatively recently did attendance for home football games wane in Iowa City, yet overall the Hawks still rank well nationally especially for a state with 3 million population.
Your comment was that isu fans (according to your isu friends) do not over emphasize the Iowa game. Attendance for their games over an extended period of time speaks differently. Otherwise, the stadium would fill up much more frequently when all of these powerhouse teams from the mighty big xii visit Ames.
Yes, your last comment is very accurate. And as I stated before, the reason most Cyclone fans get such satisfaction from beating Iowa is because they have traditionally played second fiddle in the state. Furthermore, this admission lends further support to the idea that the Iowa/ISU football game is a lose-lose proposition for Iowa. Win, and it's big deal you were supposed to. Lose, and you are the laughingstock of college football.
I would disagree, however, that Iowa underperformed the week after more often than ISU did. I think both teams usually looked lackluster the following week. Given how emotionally and physically draining rivalry games are, that makes perfect sense. For example, in 2005, after ISU made then #8 Iowa look absolutely silly, they went on the road the following week and squeaked by Army before losing three in a row (two of which were against mediocre Baylor and Missouri). That isn't the only season something like that occurred. And, of course, if you have visited these boards long enough, I'm sure you read plenty of the "Was Iowa your Super Bowl?" posts after embarrassing ISU losses occurred shortly after the Iowa game.
Well maybe you should correct the garbage post by the clone fan too who says Iowa is not even one of their 6 toughest games this year and most every year as he put it.
No, I agree that Iowa State fans strongly emphasize the Iowa game, and probably do more than any game on the schedule. I think they would admit that too. The point I was trying to communicate is that most Iowa States fans do in fact care about the entire season as well, which was in response to those who were stating most of them care about Iowa and that's it.
I'll have to stand up for cycity. All the posts of his (or hers) that I've read have been very good, fair, and accurate. The other moron you are referring to...not so much. But of course he (or she) has been conspicuously absent from this discussion since posting that toss off drivel.
We seem to be mixing content from one or two (or more) posts now.
Regarding the LC post about isu performed better than Iowa immediately following the in-state game, I have already introduced data that strongly suggests otherwise. Since Coach Ferentz arrived to take the head job in 1999, Iowa has gone a collective 12 - 5 the week after playing isu whereas isu is a combined 9 -8. Three of those five losses by Iowa were to a top ranked Nebraska team in KF's second year, a 13 - 17 defeat at the hands of #7 Wisconsin in Madison (2007) and a loss by seven points on the road at Arizona (#18). isu's record includes two losses to Toledo during that same time period.
You and I could not agree more on the 'value' of continuing such a game. With the clear direction of college football being aim for the playoffs or else, it is in the best interest of Iowa to maximize all potential benefit from each of what now amounts to three non-conference games. The perception of those on the outside is that Iowa should always beat isu no matter what the circumstances. Iowa can and has found higher quality opposition that allows a much more realistic perspective from those that just might be in position to decide post-season placement for the Hawks.
Actions speak much louder. When (and if) isu fans turn out for games the entire season to show how much they care about their football team, then you may have a point. Until then, not so much.
Lol. You're probably right. But then Iowa State of course is a "basketball school."
No clue. It's common knowledge, though, that facilities have been significantly upgraded since DM was shown the door.
Beautifully worded. This is where we need Herkyfan to chime in about ISUgrads and their strong aversion to facts. Lol.
Weather and win/loss record have nothing to do with attendance later in the season? In state games will always be well attended for Iowa and Iowa State. Kinnick has had attendance issues recently but still sells out the ISU game, does that mean fans only care about the Cyclone game?
There are examples of games played on the very same day at each Kinnick and Trice where the number of attendees is significantly different in favor of Iowa. To try to explain this away is denying the truth of the matter. There have been multiple games sold out in August, September, October and November since Kinnick was last expanded. Included are games against each of the eleven (prior to expansions that brought in Nebraska and later Maryland and Rutgers) Big Ten Conference teams as well as other Power 5 members and opponents from other leagues and/or divisions.
It has been discussed and debated here previously (and will recycle to be debated again, no doubt), but feel free to list just the top ten attended games ever at Jack Trice. Let's see exactly how many teams other than Iowa and UNI appear on that list.
and? Hey here is an idea why don't you post an example of Iowa showing a promo with an isu score on our scoreboard?
Or is this just the mo for those with little bro syndrome.
Good luck.
Does/would that somehow negate the many other sell outs that have happened?
Where is the list of the top ten attended games in Jack Trice Stadium?
I think it just shows by your logic the Iowa State game was the most important game for Iowa fans in 2014.
No... you are on record as stating it is only weather and the newness of the season that determine such things...
Let me help you here. I believe the Iowa and UNI are at the very top of the list for top ten attended games at Jack Trice and that each Iowa and UNI appear a total of three times each. That would mean that six of the top ten attended games in Ames do not include a big xii opponent. As a fan of a program from a major (?) conference that is only able to attract/retain ten teams, you will be quite able to tell us that six out of ten equates to 60% which is decisive and conclusive evidence ala the number of bowl teams or the number of NCAA tourney teams from the big xii being clear proof of how strong the conference must be.
I can list ten teams that do not include isu that have played in Kinnick before an announced sell out. That is the difference.
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Conversely, it must rank right near the top (most important) game for isu seeing as how it was surpassed in attendance by only the game at Austin for isu that fall.
Yet, in 2013 when the game was in Ames, that attendance figure was only tenth best on the season for games that Iowa played in that season.... what's up with that?
Look at the home schedule that year uni, ball state, isu, Indiana, northwestern, Wisconsin and Nebby.. And all the games had at least 64,000.. So Iowa fans show up. I would say visiting fans don't show well but Iowa state fans show well at kinnick.. But I expect a lot of sold out games this year.. This whole attendance thing Iowa state fans are arguing is silly and stupid.. It's like working a company you make more money and have more reposibilty. But One annoying co-worker saying your desk is only a little bigger then his..
That is isu grads for ya. Tell them that they are midgets and the they argue that they are the tallest midget.
More please isu grads.
Point still stands. We are no where near being one of the worst teams on your schedule. AT ALL.
I know I already said last year Iowa was not one of the worst teams on our schedule.
We never are. As long as you have a MAC type team, an FCS team, Kansas, Tech, WVU and sometimes KSU on your schedule...which you do, every year.
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