Often I work 6 days a week AWAY FROM HOME. I've never worked from home in my life other than on my own property.
Lone Tree and Highland looking at 4 day school weeks.
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Republicans made schools political
https://www.thegazette.com/educatio...indicates-she-will-push-for-law-requiring-it/
https://oregoncapitalchronicle.com/...on-wedge-issues-school-choice-parents-rights/
https://edworkforce.house.gov/news/documentsingle.aspx?DocumentID=408583
https://www.detroitnews.com/story/n...losed-three-months-2020-pandemic/69602476007/
look into some of the research online
most i've seen shows small dips in test scores at some schools, but no change in others
i wouldn't just assume that 4 day school weeks are automatically worse for children
My main concern is the kids education. That is 100% the case. The 4 days that are extended will not equal 5 days of education. Plus the kids will be dog tired and not focused if they go to school from 6:30-4-30/5pm at night when they get off the bus 4 days a week. Not to mention interference with sports/events ect after school.
Are you a teacher? Or family member of a teacher?
What are the numbers you’re expecting? @gohawks50 posted an excellent map showing the current dearth of private schools in Iowa. You seem very bullish this is all going to change soon “in the coming years.” Put a number to it and define what a school is - depending on your answer I’ll bet you $100 to your favorite charity it won’t happen. Quality schools don’t just “pop up” in the likes of Wayne county - so Doris’ repurposed trailer intended solely to grift the grift doesn’t count. But you seem very sure quality private schools are on their way so it should be easy money to a cause you care about.
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They can't or refuse to make this connection.
Kind of like box churches...if there's money to be had there's going to be a grift.
Good for you, but there's a lot of people who bitch about teacher's time off who work from home. Use the bathroom whenever they want. Go get a snack. Take a nap. It's hypocrisy. Maybe not you, but there's a damn lot of them.
Schools should have been open during I covid.
With that, please post some articles about the 4-day school week and Republicans.
are they really working 4? or is the 5th day just without kids? prep time/reassessment time?
I am a retired teacher. There are many studies showing the positives and negatives from a 4 day school week. As a former lower elementary teacher I think longer schools days would be difficult for younger children, but there would be some benefit from a longer weekend as well. Many students often miss school on Mondays or Fridays due to parents taking them on weekend vacations. I don't think the impact on sports or extra curricula activities should be a primary concern. Personally I'm not sure I would have liked a teaching with a 4 day week, but I understand small schools need to be creative in the current environment to fully staff their schools with small budgets.
Since you are against this option, what do you suggest small schools do to attract teachers to lower paying rural districts? What would you support with your vote or tax dollars?
I agree with the main point of this. The problem is, what got us to this point and how do we reverse it? Teachers are fed up. We just lost a BRILLIANT elementary math teacher for another job. Done being a teacher. "I can't do this 16 more years." It's only going to get worse. I see no job - other than Kirk Ferentz' - that gets attacked, WEEKLY, on this site more than teachers.
Dude, there are examples from republicans, in this thread who are doing exactly what i said they would do in my initial post.
Conservatives bitched about schools not being open during covid.
Then when their kids went bsck to the schools, they started bitching sbout CRT, grooming, books etc.
Then they continue shitting on public schools while ramming this private school voucher through last year because the schools that they wanted their kids to go back to during covid apparently now suck.
And now we go full circle with republicans crying about their kid not being in those crappy public schools for a 5th day
It probably depends on the teacher contract. Most contracts used to state the number of days teachers are contracted for usually 190/191, but 4 day week schools are usually going by hours. Considering Iowa teachers have lost the ability to negotiate most things, the districts will probably make the decision without teacher input.
It's amazing how minnesota, with less classroom days, better pay, better school buildings has better education.
It appears you may be the only one crying in this thread while other simply ask questions.
Twas not fun staying home with two elementary aged kids while working full time but we made it through
Going to a four day school week is just going to push more families to look into changing schools.
Schools aren't 'babysitters', but having kids in school while parents are working has been a pretty critical part of society for years now. If teachers want to disrupt that norm, they can expect even more blowback as it will negatively impact a lot of families. Many of them whom were already struggling to make ends meet with two parents working.
Schools aren't 'babysitters', but having kids in school while parents are working has been a pretty critical part of society for years now. If teachers want to disrupt that norm, they can expect even more blowback as it will negatively impact a lot of families. Many of them whom were already struggling to make ends meet with two parents working.
I could see some parents open enrolling in a neighboring district, but that requires those parents to provide transportation to and from those school districts which might also interfere with their work schedules. As far as transferring to private schools, I would bet the majority of districts looking at the 4 day option are in one of the 41 Iowa counties without a private school.
Not according to these reviews.
Depends on where the parents work. An additional 40 minutes to and from school twice a day, five days a week will not be possible for every parent especially the low income ones.
Small districts don’t have the money to pay teachers so this is the carrot.
The ramifications? Might have people move from their bedroom towns to larger districts nearby for five days of school.
Test scores will continue to drop. Kids that have no business being left alone will be.
It’s great for teachers. Horrible for the kids development. Kids need consistency and repetition. 4 days on 3 days off isn’t enough and the test scores will prove it out as they drop.
The ramifications? Might have people move from their bedroom towns to larger districts nearby for five days of school.
Test scores will continue to drop. Kids that have no business being left alone will be.
It’s great for teachers. Horrible for the kids development. Kids need consistency and repetition. 4 days on 3 days off isn’t enough and the test scores will prove it out as they drop.
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I can get along with the 4-day school week, but I don't want the days extended, I want the school year extended to make up for that lost time. Learning retention is affected by the long summer layoff.
Frankly, our society is going to be adjusting soon enough to a 4-day work week. A standard 4-day school week will propel us closer to that reality.
Frankly, our society is going to be adjusting soon enough to a 4-day work week. A standard 4-day school week will propel us closer to that reality.
I agree 4 day work weeks will be the norm. I also agree you can’t just keep the kids in school for more hours. They will “check out” after a period of time just like office workers.
Developing minds isn’t like making widgets at the factory.
It would be a problem. But, a longer drive is a better option than having to try to take a day off every week, or losing a job.
I would pay more for a good education for my kids. And I vote aswell.
But we will likely just send them to a different district that offers more for our children. Better teachers/programs/facilities. For instance Norwalk/Indianola instead of Martensdale St Marys. I do like the smaller schools myself as a whole but times are changing
Like I said earlier, most schools considering a 4 day week are looking to provide a child care option for the 5th day. These are the options Lone Tree is considering:
Daycare remained the number one topic of discussion for this sweeping change. Lone Tree Superintendent Tyler Hotz provided some answers for a potential daycare system the school could offer.
First, they could offer an Alternative Programming plan which would last the length of a school day. It would be $40 a day, as recommended by DHS. The reason for the charge is that the school cannot fund it. Instead, it needs to be self-sufficient.
Parents could contact the state to receive help paying for the program.
Parents would drop off their Pre-K through 5th grade students who would be watched by paraeducators. The paras would have micro-credentials and/or certificates that prepare them for the daycare setting.
Another solution included high school-aged students babysitting in order to earn money on their days off from school. Some parents at the previous forum did not like this idea. Either way, Hotz is working to provide a grant which would allow students to attend Kirkwood Community College to receive a child development associate degree which qualifies them to work in daycare.
Parents of Lone Tree discuss potential 4-day week with district - The News
LONE TREE The Lone Tree Community School District hosted their second public forum discussing the four-day school week at 9 a.m. on Saturday, Jan. 27. The two-hour long forum was more productive …
thenews-ia.com
I am curious as to how much more productive people will be (if at all) with all the time spent just making themselves look busy, chit chatting, and in meetings. Get your work done in four days. Less time wasted.
Also, i think it would really benefit people if they spent that 3rd day for rest. i know a lot of people that jam pack so much crap into their weekends that they dont give themselves time to unwind.
All my weekend plans are made on saturday (if i am travelling out of town to see friends/family), and i pretty much spend all day sunday without any obligations. That day of no obligations is pretty non-negotiable to me.
I see a lot more school consolidations in the near future for small Iowa rural schools. They simply won't be able to survive the current funding situation in Iowa.
How far away are the other districts you are considering?
So, parents will have a new $160 bill per month/per child. For less schooling. And, the school will now have to hire paraeducators and/or kids to actually babysit other kids. At school. Instead of teaching them.
To save money?
It's a further deterioration of the school system, but in this case it's not coming from the State, it's coming directly from the schools.
Another round is coming for sure. Sad thing is a lot of towns cling to the school as their last gasp at relevancy. I have seen knew schools built that no business being built just to try and stay alive. Their enrollment keeps dropping but the dinky town has a nice knew school getting emptier every year.
At some point you will have one or two districts per county. Districts are really feeling the pinch as the number of farmers drop. Less farmers equals less support jobs and small town factories also are decreasing.
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