From what I understand, virus mutations do not usually make a virus more deadly. More contagious, yes. Usually less deadly.
If I’m wrong I’ll expect to get blasted by the usual crowd.
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From what I understand, virus mutations do not usually make a virus more deadly. More contagious, yes. Usually less deadly.
If I’m wrong I’ll expect to get blasted by the usual crowd.
Every story I've read on the variant they do the doom and gloom of it being more contagious. Then at the very end say the symptoms are mild. Almost trying to hide that.
Time will tell if the early reports of being less deadly are true. But there are some acting like that's not even a possibility.
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I think we should be able to economically shame the unvaccinated through bc statistics are showing that vaccinated do much better than the unvaccinated AND they cost society a lot less.
My vaccination = $40.
Monoclonal antibody treatment = $1,100
Pfizer/Merek Pill = $700
Ivermectine = $30 - $70 (and is a joke that some are taking seriously)
Bleach is really cheap.
An ounce of prevention ends up costing you and taxpayers a whole lot of dough and time away from work.
Trump was way ahead of you in this one. Could've saved a lot of money listening to him
In the long run they trend that way, yeah. Which makes me wonder about the wisdom in trying to contain every variant we run across...
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Yep. Should only be counting deaths. But, you see, this isn’t all about the number of folks dying. If we counted that only, the narrative must change as we are doing well in that regard. This is now about control. Once the elite realized they could use this as an excuse for you name it, it’s about blame and holding on to power.
I agree with this. BUT….the other strain on the healthcare system is the mandate and the fear. We have lost a lot of staff for these two reasons and that hasn’t helped either. I’d put it at 50/50 at this point. But I’m also not privy to all our in house staffing metrics either.Because they are putting a completely preventable and dangerous strain on our healthcare system through their base ignorance.
"Every time we go through a surge like we are now, it becomes increasingly difficult to have the resources to care for all the patients in our community," Dr. Andersen said. "The saddest part of this and the most frustrating part of this for health care providers is we know that many of the patients we're taking care of in the hospital could have avoided hospitalization through vaccination," Dr. Andersen said.
Hospitalization numbers on the rise at Genesis Health System
This week, doctors at Genesis Health System are reporting more than 50 people are hospitalized because of COVID-19.www.wqad.com
Immunocompromised are always at risk just so you know. It’s right there in the word. They should be and should have been careful pre and post COVID. This is simply another bug to add to the list.
I am not aware of any data that immunocompromised patients are dying at a rate in excess of pre pandemic.
Sure. Agreed. But you need to acknowledge the huge role that shaming and finger pointing has had in the intransigence of the unvaccinated. The approach we choose to take in this regard did irreparable damage to the get vaccinated efforts. This should have been a carrot not a stick effort.
This is one time that acknowledging one’s reasons for not getting vaccinated and attempting to put together a WWII like ‘we are all in this together’ patriotic effort would have been a better strategy. The ‘we are losing patience’ and ‘I wouldn’t take a vaccine that Trump developed’ mixed message for political reasons have severely hampered efforts. I also believe that Trump should have come out with a PSA asking his supporters to get the jab.
So much could have been better here. Being mad at the unvaccinated should also cause one to take a long look at why they didn’t get vaccinated not simply that they didn’t. This isn’t a matter of those dumb republicans. As you know, the unvaccinated are a diverse group. Excusing one group and shaming another looks a lot like opportunism and a fall back to base dislike of those not of your political ideals. Not calling you out but personally just the concept generally.
Everyone should get vaccinated. Save our healthcare system and the lives of your friends and neighbors. If you’re sick, stay home. Test early. Keep messaging fact based and positive. Explain what vaccines do and what they don’t. Etc etc.
interesting
also believe that Trump should have come out with a PSA asking his supporters to get the jab.
Good luck with that
Is Trump without money and a pulpit? If he thinks it is the right thing he should just do it.
Hmmm...hadn't heard that, so I really don't know what happened here. BUT, IF Trump truly did volunteer to do so and was rebuffed, it would be yet another example of the DEMS letting their political feelings guide their COVID response. In other words, "politicizing" it.
Yes, yes...it is also true that there are plenty of examples of REPS politicizing this issue too. But for all of the tsk tskers out there towards the unvaccinated, this knife cuts both ways politically, whether you want to acknowledge that or not. ANY politicization of this issue, by EITHER party is foolish.
It is a dumb decision to not get vaccinated. In my mind there are three main categories of people not getting vaccinated:
- Some people are just dumb and therefore make dumb decisions.
- Some people are not dumb, but they are ostensibly hesitant because of Tuskegee experiment considerations, which in turn is dumb, if you take a step back and look at all the affluent white people who tried to ace each other out to get it first.
- Some people are not dumb, but they won't take it if a commie lib thinks they should have it. They say they are not taking it for a variety of pretextual reasons, but really it comes down to owning the libs.
Why does trump need permission from democrats to tell his flock to get immunized?
He has publicly come out for vaccination. He himself is vaccinated.
He did
He did again
Trump doesn't need anyone's permission to encourage the vax, and a 5 second Google search revealed that he did do so, at least at some level.
But...beyond that...if people are throwing stones at MAGA's for not getting vaxxed in sufficient numbers and the MAGA leader offers to, again, assist that effort...you let him...in the name of getting more people vaxxed.
Well, that just makes the anti-vaxxer-stick-it-to-the-libs crowd even dumber.
I agree that you get the message out as much as possible. If he was rebuffed by the administration that is disappointing.
I don’t think that group is as large as advertised. I ask people constantly why they didn’t get vaccinated and that hasn’t ever been a cited reason. Though people may be reluctant to admit it.
The most often cited reason, by far, is concerns about safety.
I would be cautious of accepting a statement of a message board as factual. It’s the modern version of the telephone game.
FWIW, and I don't know a lot of people who haven't taken the vax, but the ones that have shared their thoughts with me have not referenced anything MAGA, but rather concerns about vaxxes in general.
One family has a daughter that they are convinced was fine, fine as a youngster and then following some sort of a vaccination as a child, developed some form of autism, or something like that. I really don't know those details, but it is clear by looking at her that there is an impairment present today. According to the family, she was perfectly normal until the fateful vax. (I didn't know them then, so I really don't have the details on that, but they couldn't be more convinced at this point.)
That's why I referenced them having pretextual reasons stated. But that is what is really going on.
People weren't avoiding the vaccine because they were pissed about being "shamed". They were avoiding it because they were getting the message that it was 1. unnecessary 2. dangerous 3. a plot. A lot of that has appeared here on HROT. You want to point fingers...point them the right way.
In my county they were offering a $100 gift card to anyone getting their first jab and ANOTHER $100 card to whoever drove them. Not a bad carrot. That was, of course, months after I had already had my first two. It barely moved the needle in terms of shots/day.
And those concerns seem to be growing.
COVID-19: Voters Worry About Vaccine Side Effects, Oppose Federal Mandates
More than half of voters are concerned that COVID-19 vaccines could have harmful side effects, and don’t think the federal government should have the power to make vaccination mandatory.
The wife is vaccinated and has a breakthrough case. She tested positive last Thursday. My daughter didn’t and mine came back inconclusive, so I took another test today and I’m waiting on results.
Seems like breakthrough cases aren't really a big deal at this point. Primarily because the vax was designed around "last year's" Covid.
I'm vaxed and I won't be surprised if I get it and recover, just like the first damn time.
I'm vaxed and I won't be surprised if I get it and recover, just like the first damn time.
But if you can do something to put them at leas risk, with no risk to yourself, why wouldn’t you? What kind of selfish asshole wouldn’t do that?
Once he found out that the vaccines were not going to be private labeled with his Trump Brand he decided they were stupid and wanted many other people to say the same, many many other people.
Literally every person I know who is vocally anti VAX is mega MAGA and has all of their other vaccines. They pretend it’s about safety concerns but throw out government control and Q insanity all the time. They also do their own research. And now that I’m going through the list not a degree among them. So I’m confident in their researching abilities.
I will find out this week how effective my vaccine is. The way we were packed into multiple bars in Indy I’d be shocked if we weren’t exposed.
I will find out this week how effective my vaccine is. The way we were packed into multiple bars in Indy I’d be shocked if we weren’t exposed.
