They won't have supplies. The will is there but without arms they will fall. That is a fact. They can't destroy Russia with rocks and sticks.
Looks more and more likely Ukraine will lose the war.
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What a piece of shit you are? Just like your lord and savior, trump.
Come on Carol. Other women are signing up. Why not you?
Weary but determined, women join Ukraine's fight against Russia in historic numbers
Weary but determined, women join Ukraine's fight in historic numbers
Two female soldiers told NBC News that, like their male comrades, they were exhausted as the war approaches the two-year mark. But unlike the men, the women said they were facing another challenge: sexism.
www.nbcnews.com
Have you served in the military? You could always make your own trek to the Rio Grande and put your life on the line protecting our border. Sounds like something you should do if you were really a patriot and firm in your convictions.
FWIW, I realize you think you are slamming me because you hate women. But, only dim-witted, russia loving, spousal and children abusing maga scum like yourself agree. I feel sorry for the likes of you, as you belong in prison.Come on Carol. Other women are signing up. Why not you?
Weary but determined, women join Ukraine's fight against Russia in historic numbers
Weary but determined, women join Ukraine's fight in historic numbers
Two female soldiers told NBC News that, like their male comrades, they were exhausted as the war approaches the two-year mark. But unlike the men, the women said they were facing another challenge: sexism.
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Tell that to Trump. He doesn’t want to fix the border or Johnson would have voted on it.
You’re a special kind of special.
Just like they did in Afghanistan…a YUGE Russian victory!!!
I thought you just said you want quid pro quo: funds for border protection in exchange for funding for Ukraine. If the border isn't dangerous, then why does it need protection? If the border is dangerous, put your money where your mouth is and do your part.
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I would say he is both.
And before someone comes and replies that I must like him or something...i am not saying I support where he has lead his country, just that I recognize that one has to be a strong leader to so effectively take over the country and stay in power while ****ing over so many.
It’s not that difficult. You enrich the powerful - including the military brass - and you kill anyone you don’t like. That doesn’t make him smart - just ruthless and greedy.
Had to be smart enough to put himself in position to be able to be able to enrich the powerful....and extremely savy to know with whom to start with when you have limited resources.
Just like Hitler...brilliant leader. You can speak objectively about someone and still have the opinion that they are a piece of shit.
I just have a different definition of “brilliant leader”.
Intentionally ignorant, or just arguing for the sake of argument?
What are you talking about? Of course the right won't accept a stand alone, that kind of defeats the purpose of tying the border and Ukraine aid together. Without tying the two, Biden and the left will let the border to continue to be a sive.
The bill the senate passed was not a border bill. It should have been called "Let's make it look like we care about the border bill for the election."
How? Do you really think Putin is stupid enough to widen this conflict into a NATO country?
He's an idiot but not that big of one. It's WWIII if Russia steps onto NATO soil.
Do you personally believe he would risk that? Sorry I don't see it.
Life in the echo chamber must be wild. You really should educate yourself better with takes this bad
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Or maybe you don’t think allowing 8+ million illegal migrants into country without any real vetting is not a security issue for our country.
You’re the one comparing defending Ukraine with defending our border. You go to Ukraine like the other poster mentioned, you will be using a weapon and fighting. You go to our border, like the other poster said, you’ll be filling out paperwork and waving goodbye to the illegal migrants as they continue on to their destination of choice.
Or maybe you don’t think allowing 8+ million illegal migrants into country without any real vetting is not a security issue for our country.
Have you read the thread? Our own captain bone spurs was chastising libs (anyone how does not agree with him) for not going to fight in Ukraine if we think Ukraine is important. I merely turned the tables on him. His silence is deafening.
Your response to him was apples to oranges. Tell him to man up and go to Ukraine.
I think we need to continue to supply weapons to Ukraine, and help Israel, so I’m furious with the House holding all this up. But I’m also furious with the administration for the way they’ve handled the border. Yes there is a bipartisan bill, but someone tell me what they mean by shutting the border down when thresholds are reached? How exactly does that work? Do they put enough border agents and military on the border and physically prevent migrants from crossing? Who oversees that they are in fact closing the border. Too many questions on that bill and not enough details.
This sounds very similar to something Joseph McCarthy would say in the 1950s. We really have done a 180 in our political landscape over the past 75 years.
Look, I’m not saying I have answers for the border or claim to understand all of the issues. What I do understand is a blowhard who thinks he’s putting libs (again, to him, anyone who disagrees with him) on blast, and I enjoy pointing out intellectual dishonesty. In doing so, if people want to push back and dance, I will dance. If I’m wrong, I will admit I’m wrong. But, I like my odds against most people here on most issues.
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Ok Huey... where are you willing to cut spending to provide foreign aid. We ran a $2 trillion deficit last year with unemployment below 4%. The D's had two years to raise taxes, but didn't do it.
Spare us the “libs”victomhood. Anyone who questions all the money we are giving to Ukraine is automatically called a Putin sympathizer by every leftist on this board. Broadbrushing and hyperbolic rhetoric is a two way street.
Once Russia moves on Poland, or another Balkan….do we just move aside and let Putin be Putin? And then when China moves on Taiwan..,,..,we observe? Pretty soon there will be no more “America first” you phuquing bot morons!
Russia and Red phuquin’ China are NOT our friends.
2024's Polish military would annihilate what's left of Russia's rag-tag mob....probably would have before they were decimated in Ukraine....but you keep sputtering, Otis!
This really is no different that “Sadaam has Weapons of Mass Destruction we have to do something” type rhetoric. Didn’t know you became a Dick Cheney fan Joel.
I’m not a “lib” or claiming to be a victim. Like I have pointed out before, I find it hilarious I have been called a Romney loving republican and a Marxist, by both ends of the political spectrum. I am independent and call balls and strikes as I see them. I find the GOP leadership to be on the wrong side of history, at the moment, on ukraine. Simple as that.
Tell me it's about he MIC, without telling me it's about the MIC
https://www.ft.com/content/428fdef6-57e8-4aeb-b7f6-9845fcc045f9
main points:
"Ukrainian foreign minister Dmytro Kuleba told EU counterparts on Monday that Ukraine needed 2.5mn artillery shells this year but that the bloc had only sent 400,000. He pleaded with them to find a solution fast.
“The Ukrainians couldn’t care less where these shells come from, and who pays for them,” said one EU diplomat. “We’re arguing over acronyms while they suffer on the front line.”
Some EU members have already chipped in, say officials familiar with the Czech scheme.
Prague needs financial contributions from national governments because EU capitals are at loggerheads over a proposed €5bn top-up of the European Peace Facility, the main EU vehicle for funding weapons supplies to Kyiv.
EU ambassadors failed to reach agreement on the EPF at a meeting in Brussels on Wednesday and have set a target of agreeing the rules of a fresh capital injection before a summit of EU leaders on March 21.
Germany is insisting that its notional contribution of roughly €1.25bn be reduced to reflect its large bilateral military aid to Ukraine, worth €7bn this year.
“What is crucial for Ukraine is that military aid reaches it without bureaucratic delay. Bilateral support is very quick and efficient — it should be considered as an equivalent contribution to the European Peace Facility,” said Michael Clauss, Germany’s ambassador to the EU.
France and Greece insist that an expanded EPF should only buy weapons and ammunition from EU and Norwegian manufacturers — which would prevent it financing the Czech plan or ammunition from the US.
The French government maintains that EU funds should be used to strengthen the bloc’s defence industrial base. Greece is concerned that contracts could be signed with Turkish defence companies.
“Of course we should be buying more to help Ukraine including from outside the EU,” said French military analyst François Heisbourg. “But politically it is going to become very difficult to buy artillery shells from the US when the US Congress is refusing to send further military aid.”
EU foreign policy chief Josep Borrell has said EU annual production capacity will rise to 1.4mn shells by the end of 2024, outstripping the US, which is expected to hit 1.2mn next year.
In a paper for the International Institute for Strategic Studies, analysts, Franz-Stefan Gady and Michael Kofman concluded that Ukraine would need 75,000-90,000 artillery shells a month “to sustain the war defensively, and more than double that — 200,000-250,000 — for a major offensive”.
They added: “At this stage, the western coalition depends mostly on US stocks to sustain the lower range of this figure and does not have the ammunition to support a major offensive next year.”
Russia is able to make 2.5mn shells a year, according to the Royal United Services Institute think-tank. Ukrainian officials say the figure is 4mn including refurbished munitions. But that rate is far below Russia’s own frontline needs. Its forces are estimated to have fired 12mn artillery shells in 2022 and 7mn in 2023."
https://www.ft.com/content/428fdef6-57e8-4aeb-b7f6-9845fcc045f9
main points:
"Ukrainian foreign minister Dmytro Kuleba told EU counterparts on Monday that Ukraine needed 2.5mn artillery shells this year but that the bloc had only sent 400,000. He pleaded with them to find a solution fast.
“The Ukrainians couldn’t care less where these shells come from, and who pays for them,” said one EU diplomat. “We’re arguing over acronyms while they suffer on the front line.”
Some EU members have already chipped in, say officials familiar with the Czech scheme.
Prague needs financial contributions from national governments because EU capitals are at loggerheads over a proposed €5bn top-up of the European Peace Facility, the main EU vehicle for funding weapons supplies to Kyiv.
EU ambassadors failed to reach agreement on the EPF at a meeting in Brussels on Wednesday and have set a target of agreeing the rules of a fresh capital injection before a summit of EU leaders on March 21.
Germany is insisting that its notional contribution of roughly €1.25bn be reduced to reflect its large bilateral military aid to Ukraine, worth €7bn this year.
“What is crucial for Ukraine is that military aid reaches it without bureaucratic delay. Bilateral support is very quick and efficient — it should be considered as an equivalent contribution to the European Peace Facility,” said Michael Clauss, Germany’s ambassador to the EU.
France and Greece insist that an expanded EPF should only buy weapons and ammunition from EU and Norwegian manufacturers — which would prevent it financing the Czech plan or ammunition from the US.
The French government maintains that EU funds should be used to strengthen the bloc’s defence industrial base. Greece is concerned that contracts could be signed with Turkish defence companies.
“Of course we should be buying more to help Ukraine including from outside the EU,” said French military analyst François Heisbourg. “But politically it is going to become very difficult to buy artillery shells from the US when the US Congress is refusing to send further military aid.”
EU foreign policy chief Josep Borrell has said EU annual production capacity will rise to 1.4mn shells by the end of 2024, outstripping the US, which is expected to hit 1.2mn next year.
In a paper for the International Institute for Strategic Studies, analysts, Franz-Stefan Gady and Michael Kofman concluded that Ukraine would need 75,000-90,000 artillery shells a month “to sustain the war defensively, and more than double that — 200,000-250,000 — for a major offensive”.
They added: “At this stage, the western coalition depends mostly on US stocks to sustain the lower range of this figure and does not have the ammunition to support a major offensive next year.”
Russia is able to make 2.5mn shells a year, according to the Royal United Services Institute think-tank. Ukrainian officials say the figure is 4mn including refurbished munitions. But that rate is far below Russia’s own frontline needs. Its forces are estimated to have fired 12mn artillery shells in 2022 and 7mn in 2023."
I’m a realist. Putin is old school Russian Commie KGB. Those guys understand one thing hawkland..and it ain’t negotiation. Russia will push and bully those it can all the time. Trump’s approach to Russia/Putin was wrong from Day 1…..Putin played him like a chump every step of his 4 years…
They will now that they are NATO affiliated. But does Poland always have to be the catalyst for international confrontation?
