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Majority say they're open to re-electing Trump

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I hope they have golf on Mars.
 
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Wow go figure. You've intentionally made ones experience look much better than the others. When the reality is, neither was uniquely qualified honestly.

And while I lean your way, the question might be asked, what really qualifies anyone? :)
 
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Torbee considers himself upper middle class. He is
also a member of the Fourth Estate. This makes him
a community leader whether he wants to be or not.
 
President Trump needs to take some golf lessons.
He lunges at the ball instead of hitting it from a
solid stance. He fails to keep his head down through
out his swing. His loop at the end is due to his
avoidance of a decent follow through.
 
Not my problem - I'll be dead.

Hopefully our family will be on the right side of the income disparity ledger and we can rocket off this craphole and leave it to the poors and brown people. That IS the long-range GOP plan, right?

The irony of you discussing this with cigarette man is not lost on some of us Xfile fans.
 
President Trump needs to take some golf lessons.
He lunges at the ball instead of hitting it from a
solid stance. He fails to keep his head down through
out his swing. His loop at the end is due to his
avoidance of a decent follow through.
A pretty typical swing for someone 70+. Lots of hitches and giddy-ups to make up for stuff not working like they once did. Doesn’t help that he’s overweight.
 
“A majority of registered voters in a new poll say they would consider voting President Trump into a second term.

Fifty-four percent in the Hill-HarrisX survey released Monday said they would think about voting for Trump, though 46 percent of registered voters said they would not even consider casting a ballot for the president.

The polling was conducted before a summary of special counsel Robert Mueller's conclusions were released. That summary reported that Mueller did not find evidence of collusion between Trump's campaign and Russia, a huge win for the president.

People who said they backed Trump in 2016 are likely to back him again.

Ninety-five percent of respondents who said they had picked Trump in his first run for office said they would vote for him again in 2020.

The vast majority of respondents who cast ballots for Trump's former Democratic rival, Hillary Clinton, said they would not vote to re-elect him, though a somewhat sizable minority is at least open to the idea.


Seventy-six percent of former Clinton voters said they would "never" vote for Trump but 24 percent said they would at least consider it.

Among people who did not vote in 2016, 65 percent said they would never vote for Trump while 35 percent said they could do so.

The economy was the most popular reason for those willing to vote for Trump. Twenty-two percent of those saying they could vote for Trump cited the economy as their primary reason.

"Clearly the economy is always the issue in every presidential election," Republican pollster Ed Goeas said on Hill.TV's "What America's Thinking" on Monday. "Because that's what it always is. Jobs, the economy, taxes. Basically, do people feel their lives are doing better economically than when that president went in?"

A March 18 CNN-SSRS poll found that 71 percent of Americans believe the country's economy is in good shape. The country's economic state of affairs is the central factor for many election prediction models. Based on current conditions and the fact that presidents usually get re-elected, Trump ought to be a lock in 2020 according to these predictions.

But Trump's highly volatile presidency and his propensity to say things that are unpopular with a majority of Americans could break from the pattern.

"What you really have here is a tossup here, you have basically a statistical tie between the people - the Never Trumpers I'll call them - and the people who say 'yeah, I could find a reason to entertain,'" Mallory Newall, research director at Ipsos Public Affairs, told "What America's Thinking" host Jamal Simmons.

"The economy and employment and jobs is really the only issue right now where the president is still receiving positive marks," she added.

Twenty percent of respondents willing to vote Trump in 2020 said they believed that the current crop of Democratic presidential candidates were too liberal for them. The majority of this group were Republicans, however. Ten percent of Trump-considering respondents said that none of the Democratic candidates were exciting to them.

The president's hard-line immigration positions were cited by 18 percent of respondents open to voting for Trump as their primary reason for thinking about casting a ballot for him.

The latest Hill-HarrisX survey was conducted March 23 and 24 among a statistically representative sample of 1,000 registered voters. It has a sampling margin of error of 3.1 percentage points.

-Matthew Sheffield”

https://thehill.com/hilltv/what-ame...f-americans-say-theyre-open-to-the-idea-of-re
When the economy is booming and 46% of registered voters say they will never consider voting for you, you have a problem.
 
I’m guessing there’s some gamesmanship going on. I bet damn near all the left would vote for Trump to be the Republican nominee. I’m guessing they learned their lesson from last time and won’t nominate someone equally as bad or worse.
 
I’m guessing there’s some gamesmanship going on. I bet damn near all the left would vote for Trump to be the Republican nominee. I’m guessing they learned their lesson from last time and won’t nominate someone equally as bad or worse.
Well, then they'll have to nominate somebody other than the 25 who've already announced.
 
I'm not a billionaire and I've had tax relief that has helped myself and my family. So yeah I like the Trump tax policy.
It's weird because I keep hearing people in my circles saying we are getting less back in taxes this year. Nobody is happy about it. I'm pretty sure I got next to no tax relief for Trump's tax cuts for billionaires.
 
As I said in another thread, the surest way for the Democrats to blow this is to run as hard as they are from this economy. The vast majority of people are doing pretty well, while the noisiest Democrats are running as if starving people are eating their children in the streets and people are dying for lack of access to antibiotics and aspirin.

70% of people are happy with their health insurance, and 80% are happy with the quality of their health care, and we have candidates vowing to ban private insurance. Unemployment is incredibly low.

There are holes in the system, and things that legitimately need to be fixed, and things Republicans aren't addressing, but the early candidates are running on a "tear it all down" platform that is just incredibly out of touch with most people.

There are plenty of ways to hit Trump where it hurts...a ton of them. Attacking the economy and capitalism as a concept, and running on socialism is just boneheaded.

I have to think that this shifts before the election, but if not...they're going to blow it.
NO way 70% of the people are happy with the amount of money they are spending on their health insurance. It's a racket. No damn way people are happy with how much more pharmaceuticals cost in this country compared to basically everywhere else. We are all getting ripped off. Stop with the people are okay with this bullshit.
 
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I have decided I don't give a s---t now.

I'm upper middle class and white, so Trump is going to be fine for me and my family. If everyone else is cool with rampant corruption and having an amoral, proudly ignorant piece of self-absorbed crap as the figurehead of America, so be it. Maybe it's the leader we deserve.
Bill Clinton is President again? When did that happen?
 
I have decided I don't give a s---t now.

I'm upper middle class and white, so Trump is going to be fine for me and my family. If everyone else is cool with rampant corruption and having an amoral, proudly ignorant piece of self-absorbed crap as the figurehead of America, so be it. Maybe it's the leader we deserve.
the numbers say blacks Hispanics and women all have the lowest unemployment rates in history. I would say he is better for far more people than whites
 
I have decided I don't give a s---t now.

I'm upper middle class and white, so Trump is going to be fine for me and my family. If everyone else is cool with rampant corruption and having an amoral, proudly ignorant piece of self-absorbed crap as the figurehead of America, so be it. Maybe it's the leader we deserve.
the numbers say blacks Hispanics and women all have the lowest unemployment rates in history. I would say he is better for far more people than whites. As far as your middle class comment, workers with no high school education have pay increases topping 6%. They are outpacing others. But wages are up across the spectrum.
 
NO way 70% of the people are happy with the amount of money they are spending on their health insurance. It's a racket. No damn way people are happy with how much more pharmaceuticals cost in this country compared to basically everywhere else. We are all getting ripped off. Stop with the people are okay with this bullshit.
You might be wrong.

Lots of people have their employers paying a good chunk of their premiums and putting money in an HSA for them.

For many people a 5% payroll tax for Medicare for all would be in increase from what they pay now. Currently one spouse pays nothing and gets insurance from their spouse. Also if providers would be able to rebill above and beyond the Medicare for all amount they will really be taking it up the ass. I also seriously doubt a 5% payroll tax would be enough.

People know what they have now and many don’t desire to vote for a vague plan that likely will cost them more.
 
It really depends on which of the approximately 137 declared democrat candidates ends up winning the nomination.
You are not being honest. Jesus Christ could run against Trump and you wouldn’t vote for him. You know it and so does everybody here.
 
The Dems had their opportunity to reach me and pull me from the middle, but they just look like a bunch of desperate crybabies. Meanwhile, I'm just laughing at these:

 
anyone who cares at all about the future of our nation and that of the world at large will forever be appalled at the number of treasonous Americans who voted for and support an unqualified and unfit charlatan to be President of the United States. History will not judge them well.
So, you are claiming that the 62,979,879 (46.1%) who voted in the 2016 Presidential election committed treason. Wow. You obviously don't have a clue what treason means.

Seriously, you have officially lost it. Not that we didn't already know that. This just proves it.

I laugh at Trump's tweets if/when I ever pay attention to them. So do a lot of people. And now we laugh at your post, where you claim that a person who casted a vote for someone you do not like committed treason. You don't like their vote choice so hey, charge them with treason. Incredible.
 
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I predict the democratic nominee will get more votes again. I predict both nominees will get more votes that in 2016. That’s all I got.
How are the Russians getting here? I know all the D voters have been coming in caravans for months, but where will the extra R voters come from?
 
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I don't put much stock in this kind, but this is an interesting quote:

Seventy-six percent of former Clinton voters said they would "never" vote for Trump but 24 percent said they would at least consider it.
Might this signal moderate Democrats indicating they'd rather vote for "the devil I know" vs. "the devil that will ruin America as we know it?" (Bernie, Kamala, etc.).

Might mean it's Biden or Trump, and those are the two options.
I think it mostly means it’s a badly worded poll question. I’ll be considering Trump too, along with everyone else who is an option. Because that’s what voting means, to consider your options and choose one.
 
“A majority of registered voters in a new poll say they would consider voting President Trump into a second term.

Fifty-four percent in the Hill-HarrisX survey released Monday said they would think about voting for Trump, though 46 percent of registered voters said they would not even consider casting a ballot for the president.

The polling was conducted before a summary of special counsel Robert Mueller's conclusions were released. That summary reported that Mueller did not find evidence of collusion between Trump's campaign and Russia, a huge win for the president.

People who said they backed Trump in 2016 are likely to back him again.

Ninety-five percent of respondents who said they had picked Trump in his first run for office said they would vote for him again in 2020.

The vast majority of respondents who cast ballots for Trump's former Democratic rival, Hillary Clinton, said they would not vote to re-elect him, though a somewhat sizable minority is at least open to the idea.


Seventy-six percent of former Clinton voters said they would "never" vote for Trump but 24 percent said they would at least consider it.

Among people who did not vote in 2016, 65 percent said they would never vote for Trump while 35 percent said they could do so.

The economy was the most popular reason for those willing to vote for Trump. Twenty-two percent of those saying they could vote for Trump cited the economy as their primary reason.

"Clearly the economy is always the issue in every presidential election," Republican pollster Ed Goeas said on Hill.TV's "What America's Thinking" on Monday. "Because that's what it always is. Jobs, the economy, taxes. Basically, do people feel their lives are doing better economically than when that president went in?"

A March 18 CNN-SSRS poll found that 71 percent of Americans believe the country's economy is in good shape. The country's economic state of affairs is the central factor for many election prediction models. Based on current conditions and the fact that presidents usually get re-elected, Trump ought to be a lock in 2020 according to these predictions.

But Trump's highly volatile presidency and his propensity to say things that are unpopular with a majority of Americans could break from the pattern.

"What you really have here is a tossup here, you have basically a statistical tie between the people - the Never Trumpers I'll call them - and the people who say 'yeah, I could find a reason to entertain,'" Mallory Newall, research director at Ipsos Public Affairs, told "What America's Thinking" host Jamal Simmons.

"The economy and employment and jobs is really the only issue right now where the president is still receiving positive marks," she added.

Twenty percent of respondents willing to vote Trump in 2020 said they believed that the current crop of Democratic presidential candidates were too liberal for them. The majority of this group were Republicans, however. Ten percent of Trump-considering respondents said that none of the Democratic candidates were exciting to them.

The president's hard-line immigration positions were cited by 18 percent of respondents open to voting for Trump as their primary reason for thinking about casting a ballot for him.

The latest Hill-HarrisX survey was conducted March 23 and 24 among a statistically representative sample of 1,000 registered voters. It has a sampling margin of error of 3.1 percentage points.

-Matthew Sheffield”

https://thehill.com/hilltv/what-ame...f-americans-say-theyre-open-to-the-idea-of-re
Logic would suggest that number should be 100%
 
NO way 70% of the people are happy with the amount of money they are spending on their health insurance. It's a racket. No damn way people are happy with how much more pharmaceuticals cost in this country compared to basically everywhere else. We are all getting ripped off. Stop with the people are okay with this bullshit.

Here you go:

https://news.gallup.com/poll/245195/americans-rate-healthcare-quite-positively.aspx

Nobody is happy with what they pay for almost anything. But 70% are happy with their coverage, and 80% are happy with the quality.

Everyone would like the cost of it to go down, like they'd like the cost of almost anything to go down. There's definitely political points to be made in that space by Democrats, or even Republicans for that matter. But that said, 58% are satisfied with the cost, so there isn't even a majority there.

So good luck with convincing the public to support you tearing down the system completely and replacing it with something else, and its no going to affect coverage or quality. Again, Kamala Harris for example is advocating making the insurance that 70% of people are happy with illegal. And saying "trust us, we'll replace it with something better."

That's almost too easy.
 
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Here you go:

https://news.gallup.com/poll/245195/americans-rate-healthcare-quite-positively.aspx

Nobody is happy with what they pay for almost anything. But 70% are happy with their coverage, and 80% are happy with the quality.

Everyone would like the cost of it to go down, like they'd like the cost of almost anything to go down. There's definitely political points to be made in that space by Democrats, or even Republicans for that matter. But that said, 58% are satisfied with the cost, so there isn't even a majority there.

So good luck with convincing the public to support you tearing down the system completely and replacing it with something else, and its no going to affect coverage or quality. Again, Kamala Harris for example is advocating making the insurance that 70% of people are happy with illegal. And saying "trust us, we'll replace it with something better."

That's almost too easy.
Put me in the category of I will be happy when my insurance costs me the same as it does members of Congress. And if people are happy about the cost of their meds in the US then they are stupid.
 
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I'm going to open a can of worms, but the preexisting condition clause is a tug on heart strings that is dumber than hell.
I don't want to get into long winded battles, but when people can go without buying insurance and then purchase it when they are ill, it's a slap in the face to those of us who pay.

And yes, there are restrictions to limit this. There are also cases that are beyond a person's control. But frankly, it's like a dumb ass who doesn't buy insurance on their home and expects people to help them when they cry on the news that they didn't have insurance. It just doesn't set well with me.
What happens if your company goes out of business or downsizes and you get laid off and you lose you coverage? That's not your fault. If you have a preexisting condition, you're screwed without that provision. You did nothing wrong, in fact you did everything right. You dutifully worked, you dutifully had coverage, but because your company went under you now have to suffer with nobody willing to touch you on the open healthcare market.
 
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I'm going to open a can of worms, but the preexisting condition clause is a tug on heart strings that is dumber than hell.
I don't want to get into long winded battles, but when people can go without buying insurance and then purchase it when they are ill, it's a slap in the face to those of us who pay.

And yes, there are restrictions to limit this. There are also cases that are beyond a person's control. But frankly, it's like a dumb ass who doesn't buy insurance on their home and expects people to help them when they cry on the news that they didn't have insurance. It just doesn't set well with me.
Then you are for a mandate then.
 
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