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pablow said:
Cael's lightweights have never even won an NCAA championship at ISU or PSU and we're getting a lecture from this dope because no recent Hawk lightweight has won a world title.
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As you're fully aware, my post was in response to the comments by a several Hawk fans that if Spencer Lee wanted to win Olympic Gold, he should go to Iowa. Since Cael took over, the Nittany Lion Wrestling Club has a World Silver to their credit at 132 plus a few other world medals including an Olympic Gold. Iowa and their Club have no international medals at any weight (not just lightweights) since Brands took over. Got it now DOPE?

You guys better prey that Mega doesn't take out Gilman in the NCAA finals because the house of cards will come tumbling down for sure if that happens.
 
Flying_Tiger said:
As you're fully aware, my post was in response to the comments by a several Hawk fans that if Spencer Lee wanted to win Olympic Gold, he should go to Iowa. Since Cael took over, the Nittany Lion Wrestling Club has a World Silver to their credit at 132 plus a few other world medals including an Olympic Gold. Iowa and their Club have no international medals at any weight (not just lightweights) since Brands took over. Got it now DOPE?

You guys better prey that Mega doesn't take out Gilman in the NCAA finals because the house of cards will come tumbling down for sure if that happens.
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Who got the world silver?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_results_in_men's_freestyle_wrestling
 
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Cool chart - look at all the color in the 80s and early 90s...wow
 
Flying_Tiger said:
As you're fully aware, my post was in response to the comments by a several Hawk fans that if Spencer Lee wanted to win Olympic Gold, he should go to Iowa. Since Cael took over, the Nittany Lion Wrestling Club has a World Silver to their credit at 132 plus a few other world medals including an Olympic Gold. Iowa and their Club have no international medals at any weight (not just lightweights) since Brands took over. Got it now DOPE?

You guys better prey that Mega doesn't take out Gilman in the NCAA finals because the house of cards will come tumbling down for sure if that happens.
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Here you go. I attached a video that might make you feel better. By the way, don't smoke DOPE. It's not good for you.

 
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Flying_Tiger said:
As you're fully aware, my post was in response to the comments by a several Hawk fans that if Spencer Lee wanted to win Olympic Gold, he should go to Iowa. Since Cael took over, the Nittany Lion Wrestling Club has a World Silver to their credit at 132 plus a few other world medals including an Olympic Gold. Iowa and their Club have no international medals at any weight (not just lightweights) since Brands took over. Got it now DOPE?

You guys better prey that Mega doesn't take out Gilman in the NCAA finals because the house of cards will come tumbling down for sure if that happens.
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A strong case can be made for HWC as the best around for lightweights. At 57kg, #1 and #3 are with the HWC, and at 65kg, #2 (has been #1 for the previous 2-3 years).

NLWC shows up with a single listing at #9 for 65kg.

None of this includes University and Jr World medalists at the lightweights - McD and Gilman.

It's hard to be a world medalist, if you can't make the national team, which seems to be where the NLWC is at right now.

The proof is there for anyone without a bias. But that doesn't include you, as most already know.

57kg

1. Tony Ramos (1), Titan Mercury/Hawkeye WC*
2. Tyler Graff (3), NYAC/Scarlet Knight WC*
3. Dan Dennis (7), Titan Mercury/Hawkeye WC*
4. Coleman Scott (5), Sunkist Kids*
5. Sam Hazewinkel (NR), Sunkist Kids*
6. Joe Colon (2), Titan Mercury/Panther WC*
7. Erkin Tadzhimetov (NR), NYAC*
8. Angel Escobedo (4), NYAC*
9. Nathan Tomasello (10), Titan Mercury/Ohio RTC*
10. Ali Naser (9), Sunkist Kids

65kg

1. James Green (1), Titan Mercury*
2. Brent Metcalf (2), NYAC/Hawkeye WC*
3. Jordan Oliver (3), Sunkist Kids*
4. Jimmy Kennedy (5), NYAC/Cliff Keen WC*
5. Logan Stieber (4), Titan Mercury/Ohio RTC*
6. Reece Humphrey (8), NYAC/Ohio RTC*
7. Aaron Pico (6), Titan Mercury*
8. Kellen Russell (NR), NYAC/Cliff Keen WC*
9. Frank Molinaro (7), Nittany Lion WC*
10. Jason Chamberlain (10), Titan Mercury*
 
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Well that's interesting. So it basically comes down to practice partners. Iron sharpens iron kinda deal. That all makes sense. I guess what I didn't realize is how much TnT and the coaches as well as the former Hawkeyes now world team guys are still in the room day to day and rolling around with the college kids. That does seem like a huge advantage.

Just how good is this Lee kid anyway? 4X good?
 
It's hard to remember all the pen state goons who post here, until they start posting after stuff they are "certain" about. They are, as a group, so sure of every detail related to past present and future wrestling events. If you need any help forming as opinion or clarifying a fact, you needn't wait long. An ole pen state troll will arrive just in time to "learn us" all with their moral self righteousness and matter of fact opinions.

Who are the less than obvious pen state poster here. Anyone? Could someone compile a list? I need to get serious about starting to block the whole lot of them. This site is becoming a lite version of themat.com.

amalone
flying_tiger
suzyshagwell
 
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true enough....and as long as we're discussing important topics related to wrestling, isn't david taylor getting a widows peak?
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More important is what caused all of his twitching. Taking the natural approach to weight gain is a lot healthier. And speaking of Taylor, his last 2 matches were boring as hell. He should have been hit for stalling 3 times in the finals. I really question the talent level of the weight class during his tenure. He's good no doubt about it but shouldn't be mentioned with the top guys.
 
86_90 said:
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Some of the Penn State big mouths, like Flying Tiger, just can't get through a day without running down the Iowa program and its wrestlers. FT apparently can't be happy with with PSU's success, he needs to trash Iowa relentlessly. It's amost comical reading FT's post denying Terry Brands' critical role in Cejodo's success (FT - read Cejudo's book for God sake!) and yet he's claiming a world silver medal for the NLWC because Franklin Gomez stopped for a sandwich in Happy Valley.

The following world and international medalists were trained by the Brands: Henry Cejudo (Olympics, Gold), Bill Zadick (World Championships, Gold), Mike Zadick (World Championships, Silver), Matt McDonough (World University Games, 3rd and Grand Prix Paris, 3rd), Thomas Gilman (Junior Worlds, 3rd), Daniel Dennis (Club World Championship - 2nd, Bill Farrell Memorial International Freestyle - 3rd, and this year he's won both the Grand Prix of Spain and the Olympic Team Trials Qualifying Tournament) and Phil Keddy (New York Athletic Club International - 1st, Henri Deglane Challenge - 2nd, Dave Schultz Memorial International - 2nd, Pan American Championship - 1st, and Yasar Dogu Freestyle - 2nd)

Add to those Brent Metcalf and Anthony Ramos (they have both won and medaled at international competitions), current US freestyle team members.​

USA Wrestling named Terry Brands its Freestyle Wrestling Coach of the Year in 2014. Gee, I wonder why.

So Flying Tiger, resume trolling.
 
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moug said:
Gilman owned Tomasello for 2 years freestyle before the Nate's 1 takedown folkstyle win. Gilman literally kept NT from off the Junior world team so...................just sayin.

EDIT: I see you have a smiley................so no disrespect.
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Nate has improved a ton since the big tens as has Gilman he'll need a different game plan to beat him again with these new rules but I'm confident in my guy as you are in yours I'd think if lee's aspirations are Olympic goals with college success his top 2 choices would be Iowa or Ohio state if it's just being apart of a team chasing titles then stay home and go to penn state Cael and company have done great producing college champs but haven't had anyone make a team on the international circuit (not counting my guys from Puerto Rico and Varner who hasn't done much since 2012) at Ohio state he'd have Nate, Stieber, and Humphrey as partners with Roselli as well which is a great situation to be in for success same argument could be made for Iowa with the brands and Ramos,McDonough, and Dennis
 
86_90 said:
It's hard to remember all the pen state goons who post here, until they start posting after stuff they are "certain" about. They are, as a group, so sure of every detail related to past present and future wrestling events. If you need any help forming as opinion or clarifying a fact, you needn't wait long. An ole pen state troll will arrive just in time to "learn us" all with their moral self righteousness and matter of fact opinions.

Who are the less than obvious pen state poster here. Anyone? Could someone compile a list? I need to get serious about starting to block the whole lot of them. This site is becoming a lite version of themat.com.

amalone
flying_tiger
suzyshagwell
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It seems flying tiger and very recently lemon pie are the obnoxious PSU fans who post here

suzieshagwell was banned from themat forum several years back after a prolonged psychotic rant

but he cleaned up the potty mouth and has come back on themat forum under a new name, "cletus tucker"

hurricanewrestling and cletus are habitual Iowa bashers on themat forums. These two, both PSU supporters, go out of their way to spin everything related to Iowa wrestling in a bad light.... coaches, wrestlers, the university, minor brushes with the law (hurricane once posted a picture of a discount store where shoplifting 99cent earplugs occurred, involving an Iowa wrestler years ago, and wrote a poem about it). Hurricane also has droned on about Gable's record being incorrect, claiming Gable lost in high school (Gable had a loss... in Jr High School). They also like to overemphasize FS losses Gable had (ignoring that fact that nearly all occurred in the earliest stages of his FS career...e.g. Gable was all of 19, with virtually no FS experience when he tried out for 1968 Olympics.

Trolling, perhaps. But I sometimes wonder if their goal is to just tear down a great program with anonymous propaganda, possibly influencing impressionable HS kids who may read the forums.
 
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Flying_Tiger said:
Until Brands produces a World or Olympic medal from one his wrestlers, these claims of being the better place to win internationally are simply not based in reality. Furthermore, once you consider the number of medals the NLWC has won since Cael arrived, including a light weight Silver medal, the claim becomes even more dubious…...and stop claiming Cejuda, he didn't wrestle for Iowa or the Hawk Wrestling club. He trained exclusively freestyle from high school on for team USA. The fact you try to include him speaks volumes.
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Not to "speak volumes," but here's a link of a video of Terry Brands "not" coaching Cejudo. :)

 
rossel 33 said:
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It seems flying tiger and very recently lemon pie are the obnoxious PSU fans who post here

suzieshagwell was banned from themat forum several years back after a prolonged psychotic rant

but he cleaned up the potty mouth and has come back on themat forum under a new name, "cletus tucker"

hurricanewrestling and cletus are habitual Iowa bashers on themat forums. These two, both PSU supporters, go out of their way to spin everything related to Iowa wrestling in a bad light.... coaches, wrestlers, the university, minor brushes with the law (hurricane once posted a picture of a discount store where shoplifting 99cent earplugs occurred, involving an Iowa wrestler years ago, and wrote a poem about it). Hurricane also has droned on about Gable's record being incorrect, claiming Gable lost in high school (Gable had a loss... in Jr High School). They also like to overemphasize FS losses Gable had (ignoring that fact that nearly all occurred in the earliest stages of his FS career...e.g. Gable was all of 19, with virtually no FS experience when he tried out for 1968 Olympics.

Trolling, perhaps. But I sometimes wonder if their goal is to just tear down a great program with anonymous propaganda, possibly influencing impressionable HS kids who may read the forums.
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It's good to see someone is still fighting the good fight against the trolls. I was also consistently reminded of the literal hate that was spewed daily when viewing that and other sites. As I said, for those feeling all warm and fuzzy about our pen state fanboy infiltration, it may be advisable to look at them within the context of this invasion of our Hawkeye with a less filtered lens. Check out a few "neutral" sites and see what they are saying "behind your backs."
 
I used to troll Suzy over there years ago when I had more time for that kind of crap. Never post there anymore.
 
Flying_Tiger said:
As you're fully aware, my post was in response to the comments by a several Hawk fans that if Spencer Lee wanted to win Olympic Gold, he should go to Iowa. Since Cael took over, the Nittany Lion Wrestling Club has a World Silver to their credit at 132 plus a few other world medals including an Olympic Gold. Iowa and their Club have no international medals at any weight (not just lightweights) since Brands took over. Got it now DOPE?

You guys better prey that Mega doesn't take out Gilman in the NCAA finals because the house of cards will come tumbling down for sure if that happens.
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For the most part, the BWI board is filled with educated wrestling fans that, because of their rich HS history, have known and loved wrestling for years, Some of them come over here and provide good insight and solid debates, but there are a few, like Flying Tiger, who was introduced to wrestling when Cael showed up and they won their first title. Before that he had never seen a wrestling match, he was big on the football board until Joe Pa was forced out, he has no idea Penn State has a basketball team and since Penn State wrestling didn't win last year, he has been spending a lot of time on the Girls Volleyball boards (because they are historically a national champ contender, for those that didn't know).
Even though you are a typical bang-wagon jumpin front runner with what you have proven is limited wrestling knowledge, all would still be okay, if you could try and not be such a tool.
 
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Neo_Hawk said:
For the most part, the BWI board is filled with educated wrestling fans that, because of their rich HS history, have known and loved wrestling for years, Some of them come over here and provide good insight and solid debates, but there are a few, like Flying Tiger, who was introduced to wrestling when Cael showed up and they won their first title. Before that he had never seen a wrestling match, he was big on the football board until Joe Pa was forced out, he has no idea Penn State has a basketball team and since Penn State wrestling didn't win last year, he has been spending a lot of time on the Girls Volleyball boards (because they are historically a national champ contender, for those that didn't know).
Even though you are a typical bang-wagon jumpin front runner with what you have proven is limited wrestling knowledge, all would still be okay, if you could try and not be such a tool.
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I am a proud Girl's/Women's Volleyball bandwagoner. I'm not quite sure why it's one of the few women's sports I can watch, butt I'm sure I'll figure it out some day.
 
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gablefan73 said:
More important is what caused all of his twitching. Taking the natural approach to weight gain is a lot healthier. And speaking of Taylor, his last 2 matches were boring as hell. He should have been hit for stalling 3 times in the finals. I really question the talent level of the weight class during his tenure. He's good no doubt about it but shouldn't be mentioned with the top guys.
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He's always had a facial tic. I'll take a David Taylor as the face of my program any day - what a badass and never missed a match.

The feeling is that his cardiovascular system is trying to catch up to his added size - hence the lower energy level. He was huffing and puffing by the 2nd against Dudley.
 
NYWRESTLER94 said:
Nate has improved a ton since the big tens as has Gilman he'll need a different game plan to beat him again with these new rules but I'm confident in my guy as you are in yours I'd think if lee's aspirations are Olympic goals with college success his top 2 choices would be Iowa or Ohio state if it's just being apart of a team chasing titles then stay home and go to penn state Cael and company have done great producing college champs but haven't had anyone make a team on the international circuit (not counting my guys from Puerto Rico and Varner who hasn't done much since 2012) at Ohio state he'd have Nate, Stieber, and Humphrey as partners with Roselli as well which is a great situation to be in for success same argument could be made for Iowa with the brands and Ramos,McDonough, and Dennis
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Which "team on the international circuit" did Stieber and NaTo make? And why are we not counting Ed Ruth's appearance on the 2014 World team (when he was training at the NLWC)? And why are we not counting Franklin Gomez (who has more world medals than NaTo, Humphrey and Stieber combined)? And isn't it at least worth noting that Taylor, Ruth, Molinaro have exactly the same number of world and Olympic medals as NaTo, Stieber, Humphrey, Ramos, and Metcalf? If Spencer Lee's primary interest is in world and Olympic medals, he really should choose Nebraska, shouldn't he?

(Sorry for all the punctuation.)
 
Puerto Rico is a long way from Pennsylvania. Just a thought. If Gomez didn't place at Worlds most PSU fans wouldn't even know who he is.
 
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Neo_Hawk said:
For the most part, the BWI board is filled with educated wrestling fans that, because of their rich HS history, have known and loved wrestling for years, Some of them come over here and provide good insight and solid debates, but there are a few, like Flying Tiger, who was introduced to wrestling when Cael showed up and they won their first title. Before that he had never seen a wrestling match, he was big on the football board until Joe Pa was forced out, he has no idea Penn State has a basketball team and since Penn State wrestling didn't win last year, he has been spending a lot of time on the Girls Volleyball boards (because they are historically a national champ contender, for those that didn't know).
Even though you are a typical bang-wagon jumpin front runner with what you have proven is limited wrestling knowledge, all would still be okay, if you could try and not be such a tool.
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I saw my first match in 1988 and many thereafter while attending Penn State…... FAIL.
 
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I saw my first match in 1988 and many thereafter while attending Penn State…... FAIL.
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Good one, I get it, field hockey match right (do they call them matches)? PSU was in the hunt for the 1988 field hockey championship and you figured since they were good you would be a fan for the week. I am sure you spouted off around the water cooler or passed notes (think pre-internet) declaring your supreme intellect on the subject of womens field hockey to nearby Delaware fans. (yes you beat delaware in the first round) But once you got beat by Penn in the 2nd round you quickly jumped off that bandwagon and became a Men's Volleyball fan, and obviously a Men's Volleyball expert, since they were in the 1989 Final Four.

I just want to thank you for sharing your brilliance on the HR board. Some may think you are a troll, but I just think you honestly believe that your opinion is so enlightening that you must share it, as rudely as possible, with everyone, even if that means putting down those whose boards you are visiting. I go to BWI regularly, and disagree with a lot and take offense to some posts, but would never think about being a jerk on their board. It's their board. Like I said, opinions are fine, debate is good, being a tool is pathetic or to put it better, being a tool is...flying tiger?
 
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CholleyVandine said:
Which "team on the international circuit" did Stieber and NaTo make? And why are we not counting Ed Ruth's appearance on the 2014 World team (when he was training at the NLWC)? And why are we not counting Franklin Gomez (who has more world medals than NaTo, Humphrey and Stieber combined)? And isn't it at least worth noting that Taylor, Ruth, Molinaro have exactly the same number of world and Olympic medals as NaTo, Stieber, Humphrey, Ramos, and Metcalf? If Spencer Lee's primary interest is in world and Olympic medals, he really should choose Nebraska, shouldn't he?

(Sorry for all the punctuation.)
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I did say something about Puerto Rico in general if you read my post please tell me some big names Taylor and Ruth and molinaro have beaten outside of the US because I can give you a name or two that Logan and Reece have under their resumes on the international scene
 
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I am a proud Girl's/Women's Volleyball bandwagoner. I'm not quite sure why it's one of the few women's sports I can watch, butt I'm sure I'll figure it out some day.
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Volleyball and Fastpitch Softball for Women. I can handle those two sports. Anything else and I want to strangle complete strangers and poke my eyes out..................:D
 
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