Matt Campbell is ISU's next coach
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Now I hate him. I didn't hate him yesterday. But today I do.
It will go one of two ways; An epic fail in which he is in way over his head, or he has a decent year in year 2 and takes another job.
Ever been to Toledo? Well, Ames is like Aruba compared to that craphole. Holy Toledo, did i say that. Any chance they would keep Rhoads on as an adviser? Campbell is going to need some help figuring out what to be proud of right away. Paul could go around pointing to things, "I'm proud of the sofa in that office...Mangino used to sit there."
I think it's a very good hire for ISU, Of all the "up and coming" coaches, He is one of the ones that I really like.
Here is a nice write up about Campbell if you want to take the time to read it.
http://espn.go.com/ncf/story/_/id/1...tt-campbell-worried-next-step-coaching-career
http://espn.go.com/ncf/story/_/id/1...tt-campbell-worried-next-step-coaching-career
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Agree if he has any success in Anes he will move on quickly thereafter... Rhoads was probably the only coach who would have remained in Ames forever if they wanted him.
Hard to tell if this will be a good hire for ISU. Winning in the MAC is one thing; recruiting players for the Big 12 will be another.
Hard to tell if this will be a good hire for ISU. Winning in the MAC is one thing; recruiting players for the Big 12 will be another.
Defensive guy, good idea for them. Seems to be a hard worker and to have done well wherever he has been. Being humble is always good, especially after rah rah Rhodes being there. The big question for ISU will be if he has some success how long he would stick around. There is a limit to the level you can reach at ISU, Rhodes would have been happy to stay with that level (although he never got there), I'm guessing this guy moves on to the big time eventually.
That would be like Purdue recruiting in Alabama.....they might beat out some MAC schools for Ohio kids, but kids in the heart of Big 10 country aren't picking ISU over Big 10 schools very often.
I get this is a popular narrative regarding any coach who has success at Iowa St., but the opportunity is there for a coach to become a legend at that school. They are starved for consistent competitiveness and perhaps this is the kind of guy that is going to be happy at ISU and is motivated to do what others have failed to do. This is a kid that left a D1 program for D3 Mt. Union, so he doesn't seem to crave attention or prestige.
Pollard seems like a complete clown, but I'll give him credit for a few things. First, he acts quickly...he got out in front of the large pack of Power 5 schools looking for a coach and locked into his choice. He acted just as quickly when he was making basketball hires with Hoiberg and Prohm. That tells me he was preparing for this outcome long ago and also he somehow is able to bypass procedures involved in coaching hires that we've seen Iowa go through in similar situations.
Iowa St. had two options with this hire...a safe conservative hire similar to Jerry Kill when he landed at Minnesota or a young up and coming coach that is a high risk high reward type of hire. I applaud ISU for taking a risk on a young up and coming coach, I would have guessed they went for a proven coach with a track record of rebuilding programs at different levels similar to Kill but think this type of hire will probably resonate better with recruits and the fanbase. It will be interesting to see how this works out and I'm curious to see what type of systems this coach attempts to implement on the field. It seems like ISU has ignored the high school recruits in the state of Iowa for the past few years, I suspect this coach will at least try a bit harder to appeal to instate recruits as he should.
I think it is a good hire if for nothing else but fan base perception. It will sell tickets and that is what Pollard always is thinking first. He finds a way to generate hope.
The key is if Campbell has success, then you are going to have to pay him big bucks to stay because of his age he will be fast tracked to a more significant power 5 school. Keep in mind Rhoads won initially and was thought to be a god... fast forward a couple of years and he is gone. He failed to strike while the iron was hot and paid a steep price. Coaches have agents that know very well the landscape of football and the risk of staying too long. ISU is a difficult job not because it's not a good place or school but because of the challenges that cannot be changed. This means ISU is quickly going to be in the 4 million plus salary range with a hefty buy out clause as soon as there is any success. That's the price of poker if you want to run with the big dogs. The days of getting by on the cheap are coming to an end.
The absolute last thing I'm worried about in this process is whether the new coach will stay in Ames forever after he has great success.
Seems like a good coach on the rise. I'd be a little worried about his recruiting ties, though. I think the Big 12 will be a tough sell to Ohio, Michigan and Pennsylvania kids. If he can bring in a couple good Texas recruiters he'll be fine, though.
You are not going to beat the other Big 12 schools for the top recruits in the Big 12 areas...just won't happen...there is a reason Rhoads focused so much on JUCO recruiting. Texas kids want to go to one of the Texas schools if possible. Question: how low are the ISU entrance requirements that they can get this many JUCO recruits in so easily? That's kind of baffled me.
Ummmm, if he can get the same exit clause Paul Rhoades got, he is certainly not stupid. It's a $4 million dollar xmas at the Rhoades house, & he doesn't have to deal with that f'tard of a trainwreck anymore.
Sounds like a good hire for them.
I was hoping they would go with the Navy guy and install the triple option.
I was hoping they would go with the Navy guy and install the triple option.
I think Pollard made one heck of better decision than Nebraska. You have a young, 36 year old coach that won 2 Mac West Divisions. Mike Riley, 26 years his senior, won Pac-10 Coach of the year, 7 years ago.
So true. They are a loyal bunch. Pollard somehow manages to get them believing that ISU actually has a good football program.
It does seem like the best hire they could get. They may indeed have more success with Campbell.
Woody Hayes sent the guys he could not get enrolled at tOSU to FXL and thus he had great success at Toledo. Once FXL landed at Iowa, the Woody Hayes recruiting help came to end for obvious reasons.
Money move. This is a lateral move for Campbell prestige wise (Toledo is probably the better program, but ISU being in a power 5 conference puts them at about the same place in national perception), but Toledo can't offer him the same $$ as ISU. Have to figure he has a long leash at ISU, so he'll be leaving a multi-millionaire even if he can't eventually turn it around.
This isn't even close to being true...you can't honestly call this a lateral move. ISU has the facilities, conference and resources that trump anything Toledo can offer. I'm not a fan of ISU either, but lets be honest here. This is a step up for the coach and if he leaves ISU because he is successful, ISU will thank him for improving the program and search for another coach. I'm sure all ISU fans would be perfectly fine with that scenario if it turned out to be true.
When you win 8 games in 3 years... making a bowl game or two is going to be considered great success by outsiders. Pollard is going to have to move him up quickly when that happens because the suitors will come. Rhoads has said this a bowl team next year.
The guy is a Tim Beckman understudy and has never really gotten out of Ohio region to coach. I'll bet he is a average recruiter. Only 36 years old. I would not bet the farm on this guy. The MAC may play more wide open scoring football but little defense. Sounds like most of the Big 12 until you hit Oklahoma and I'll bet Texas gets much better.
Similar to Nebraska, except both football programs are extreme polar opposites.
- Coaches never stick around very long
- Coaches struggle to build decent teams
- Both universities measure their success on beating Iowa
Its a risky move. I am not sure why he would not at least listen to Missouri or look at some of the other openings before taking ISU. Those programs have more resources and a better recruiting base.
