Midland Session II
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That is called the bully
No offense, I meant all Hawkeye fans. Maybe should have said ladies or make it gender neutral but at my age hard to change. regardless great to see him healthy
Laux just did not get the free point for the guy running oob - kinda like Wilcke was just putting on the track shoes and ....
Welp - this officiating seems not the same from mat to mat
Welp - this officiating seems not the same from mat to mat
100% serious. If you can't go behind a guy when he's got nothing but his fingertips on the back of your leg, you're not going to win many Big 10 matches.
If Sammy wrestles like he's capable, he's a legit National title contender.
I think the question was about the implication that Brooks may not be qualifying for Nationals. Yes, if he wrestles to his potential, he could place highly. No, he's not going to be failing to qualify for Nationals. That's just a silly thing to be implying, no matter how flat he looked against Jackson.
If he wrestles like he's capable, it's absolutely possible. Owings beat Gable. Marianetti beat McIlravy. And as good as Dean is, he's nowhere near their level.
Alex Meyer put together a nice day with 3 majors. I didn't expect that.
He is most likely going to be a three timer with a third place finish his freshman year. His only loss in the NCAAs is to another three timer. This year...he is doing a pretty good imitation of a super elite guy. But we will have to wait and see what this guy has to say about it tho...
http://cyclonefanatic.com/forum/threads/the-dean-hodge-breaker.224857/
My post was a follow-up to Omahahawk86's post(that I should have quoted) that stated Brooks would not be on the podium if he wrestles like that in March. I simply took it a step further and said he won't qualify IF HE WRESTLES LIKE THAT (meaning the match he just wrestled against Indiana).
Not sure if you guys watched it, but that match was really bad. I absolutely love Sammy. Other than Gilman, he's my favorite guy on the team to watch. I just wasn't real happy with the effort in that last match.
What does everyone think happens after BS graduates? Does Kem and Alex slide down and young takes 165
Alex looks a little small for 165 this year. I sat next to him at the trials he said he was walking around 165-67
Alex looks a little small for 165 this year. I sat next to him at the trials he said he was walking around 165-67
Upsets can and do happen in sports. Just ask Danny Kanell.
It was very disappointing. I was shocked at how little effort Jackson had to make to break Brooks' single and get his own TD. It was way too easy.
That doesn't make your comment any less ridiculous, though. Jackson was a 5th place finisher at the NCAAs last year. A close loss hardly translates to "he wont qualify with that effort." That said, we all sometimes say dumb things we really don't mean.
Whom he had already beaten earlier in the year. He keeps up his dominance this year and wins another title and he's absolutely on McIlravy's level IMO.
Sure...I get that. But if you have watched Gabe this year, he is as close to unbeatable as you can get this north of 149...His closet match this year is against Nolan Boyd (#6) who he beat 14-6. He TF'd Zavatsky, pinned Ellingwood, maj Gravina 16-3 who is in the semis at Midlands. He also majored returning national champ Myles Martin in a welcome to the weight class exhibition. Now big move guys like Bo, McRib, or Sammy might be able to luck out but his center of gravity is so low that it would be tough to stand him up straight for a throw.Plus, he is more powerful than they are. So in theory, you are correct. In reality, it would have to be a feet to back pin ala the Ice Cream Man over Snyder in 2015. Even if someone gets six on him, he will still come back.
I should probably stop responding to these, but what the hell. I really did mean what I said. That match was awful. Beyond the lack of effort, the lack of positioning and technique from both wrestlers was just plain sad. Looked like 2 guys who were ready for bed. I do understand that guy's have bad matches. Lord knows I had plenty in my not so illustrious career.
Let me state again, I do NOT think Sammy will fail to qualify for Nationals. I think he will be a high All American. Maybe even a NCAA Champ. But if he wrestles like he did tonight at B1Gs, he could go 0-2 bbq. Again, I do NOT think he will wrestle as poorly at B1Gs as he did tonight, but if he does, the results will be bad.
I have full confidence in Sammy and the staff that they will right the ship.
My point was that Brooks may have looked bad in that match but that it's nuts to suggest that he may not qualify for Nationals. It's just over-the-top negativity. Most guys look bad from time to time. I don't like it any more than you do, but we're all well-advised to lay off the nutty exaggerations when our guys go down, even if they look bad in the process.
Not a nutty exaggeration at all. Lack of reading comprehension from you and others.
So a guy loses to a 5th place finisher at nattys and the ship needs to be righted?...lol
Why do you keep owning an ignorant comment? Spooner tried giving you and easy out .
Lets give the wrestlers the benefit of doubt when they look off. Everyone knows that Sammy always brings it. He wrestles more banged up in a season than mcriblet has had in a career. It was obvious that Sammy wasn't firing on all cylinders.
While I am venting. Tarphawk probably posted the dumbest thing I have read on here in a long time. You really want to say it was stupid for a freshman to choose down at a mid season tournament? Choosing down was the right call for him at this point in his career. It is about his development. You should understand this more than the peanut gallery.
How about Meyer? One or two posts about his good day. Young had an awesome day. He was a freshman mistake from being in the semi's. Stoll made his debut and knocked some rust off and stayed healthy. Carton was a finished TD away from knocking off a top 5 kid.There were a lot of positives yesterday but the board is filled with negativity. Sorry for the rant but the negativity on here is sad.
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I gave Carton zero chance of beating Jack and he was one poor scramble away from doing just that. Got in on a nice shot and just didn't finish it fast enough, and not surprisingly got out scrambled by a real good wrestler in Jack. Carton showed a lot of spunk in that match, hope he can keep it going on the back side.
I didn't get to see all of Young's match he lost, but saw all of the 3rd period and he absolutely should have won that match. He WAS the better guy. He burned too much time off the clock on some nice shots he initiated, and let the guy do the same thing to counter him each time. I realize sometimes it is easier said than done, but he needed to adjust his mindset and technique after experiencing the same counter each time. Find a way to finish faster. And of course he could have tried to ride him out to get to OT, where he was clearly the better wrestler down the stretch. I don't know what happened there or if he just wasn't aware he needed to ride him out to tie. Not sure who was in his corner, but either way it was a match he could have and probably should have won. Either way, great effort late to give him a shot at winning, with a couple of hiccups along the way.
When Alex Meyer majors 3 guys, that is certainly news. Great job by him. Didn't get to see any of them unfortunately. I think Sammy Brooks has all the ability he needs to beat all the top guys not named Dean on a regular basis, and he's just not done it. I've resigned myself to the fact he'll win the majority of the time and lose to good guy I think he should beat (Nate Jackson being one of them).
Young gave up a 6-point move in the first. He had a great shot and looked to have the TD, but he got outscrambled and ended up on his back.
imo, no one on this forum should be surprised by what we see in Brooks. He can look like a NCAA champ in one match, then a non-placer in the next. He's been that way his entire career at Iowa.
The consistency from him is just not there. It also makes his contribution at Nationals uncertain. I've seen it many, many times. A senior loses in an early round and realizing his dream of a championship is gone...he packs it in and doesn't even place.
If he's got a problem, it's between the ears. Some of his big wins have proven he has the necessary talent. Maybe it's an OPRF thing?
The consistency from him is just not there. It also makes his contribution at Nationals uncertain. I've seen it many, many times. A senior loses in an early round and realizing his dream of a championship is gone...he packs it in and doesn't even place.
If he's got a problem, it's between the ears. Some of his big wins have proven he has the necessary talent. Maybe it's an OPRF thing?
Spin it or twist it how or whomever you like.
Now let's kick some ass!!!!
Now let's kick some ass!!!!
Personally, I think it smart that Young let his opponent up. He hadn't been able to consistently ride him for the entire match, keeping him down for 30 more seconds then his opponent getting an escape in the final 15 seconds seems like the higher probability scenario. Better to let him up and go for the TD, he just wasn't able to execute.
Not an ignorant comment. But, yes I am owning it. It's called accountability. Something I learned from wrestling.
I thought Topher wrestled really well. Very solid effort. Lots there to build on.
Gilman was Gilman, which is a huge compliment.
Good effort from Marinelli. Found out what he's got to work on to beat IMar.
Nice job by Stoll. Workmanlike match. Used that 2-on-1 to skip Larson across the mat like a flat rock on a pond.
I missed the other quarters matches due to Internet issues. Liked what I saw from Sorensen and Meyer in the earlier rounds. And Wilcke also looks to be improving.
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My take on the first day of midlands is more positive than most.
Gilman - No one near his level, but he is a beast.
Laux - Undersized replacement for Clark. Lost two close matches because he can't finish shots. Plus he got ridden out to lose the second match - he doesn't seem to have the strength to get hand control to get out.
Carton - Impressed with his motor. Great comeback win, then nearly came back on Jack. Carton is becoming more fun to watch.
Sorensen - Kocer right out of the gate was a tough draw since they'd wrestled earlier this year and Kocer is no slouch. Sorensen came on strong late in the match, then came thru with a big pin and a major. Good to see him getting bonus wins against lessor opponents.
Kemerer - He's putting up points. He gets to the legs on everyone and scrambles well. Looking forward to his match with Tsirtis in Semi's.
Gunther - He needs to open up more to get over the hump against good competition. Marinelli and Young are fun to watch - they wrestle like they have nothing to lose. I actually hope Gunther holds the spot and they let Marinelli and Young mature and build size/strength. Marinelli looks small at 165. Young needs to bulk up to go 174 next year.
Meyer - Slow start at times, as expected, but he put up some points and got bonus wins. Hope he beats Weatherspoon to get a shot at Valencia.
Brooks - Sloppy finishes cost him against Jackson. He seemed to wrestle very carefully against Jackson - not the aggressive wide open style we usually see. He doesn't do as well wrestling that style. He needs to make it a brawl and force competition to wrestle his style.
Wilke - Held his own as an undersized 197. At #15 seed, he got a winnable match against D3 #2 seed, but quit wrestling aggressive the 3rd period.
Stoll - Looked rusty on his feet, but a solid return for the big guy.
Gilman - No one near his level, but he is a beast.
Laux - Undersized replacement for Clark. Lost two close matches because he can't finish shots. Plus he got ridden out to lose the second match - he doesn't seem to have the strength to get hand control to get out.
Carton - Impressed with his motor. Great comeback win, then nearly came back on Jack. Carton is becoming more fun to watch.
Sorensen - Kocer right out of the gate was a tough draw since they'd wrestled earlier this year and Kocer is no slouch. Sorensen came on strong late in the match, then came thru with a big pin and a major. Good to see him getting bonus wins against lessor opponents.
Kemerer - He's putting up points. He gets to the legs on everyone and scrambles well. Looking forward to his match with Tsirtis in Semi's.
Gunther - He needs to open up more to get over the hump against good competition. Marinelli and Young are fun to watch - they wrestle like they have nothing to lose. I actually hope Gunther holds the spot and they let Marinelli and Young mature and build size/strength. Marinelli looks small at 165. Young needs to bulk up to go 174 next year.
Meyer - Slow start at times, as expected, but he put up some points and got bonus wins. Hope he beats Weatherspoon to get a shot at Valencia.
Brooks - Sloppy finishes cost him against Jackson. He seemed to wrestle very carefully against Jackson - not the aggressive wide open style we usually see. He doesn't do as well wrestling that style. He needs to make it a brawl and force competition to wrestle his style.
Wilke - Held his own as an undersized 197. At #15 seed, he got a winnable match against D3 #2 seed, but quit wrestling aggressive the 3rd period.
Stoll - Looked rusty on his feet, but a solid return for the big guy.
If that is a joke you should put an emboli or smiley face after it. If you are serious, then you are also clueless. IMHO
Sammy got beat in a close match by a really good kid who also happened to have a higher finish than Sammy at NCAAS (different weight, but still), and you think his effort was so listless a similar effort in the B1G tourney will result in a failure to qualify?
Champion hawk is correct, Spooner did give you and easy out and yet it's like you're on the under 3 merry-go-round. You are 6 inches off the ground, spinning about 1 revolution a minute and everybody is telling you go ahead hop off its safe, but your fear of self acknowledgment of a silly statement keeps you on with the rest of the silly folks.
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