They are obviously down this year with some good young guys redshirting. One thing I found odd was that their entire starting lineup is from Minnesota. Can anyone remember a top tier program having their entire lineup full of in state kids or close to it?
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That is a bit surprising their entire lineup is in-state kids. Obviously they have some on redshirt or on the pine from out of state, but that's a 1st for me hearing of such a thing. Iowa has definitely had some lineups with mostly Iowan's, but they weren't losing to Indiana as I recall..........................................
Kind of brings up an interesting topic. If you were to assemble a team using only wrestlers from the home State of Iowa (or any single State for that matter) how good of a lineup would be had. Could it compete for a National Title?
Current Wrestlers: 25 - Gilman (technically from IA, just school in NE), 33 - Clark, 41 - Grothus, 49 - Sorenson, 57 - Steiert, 65 - Weatherman, 74 - Meyer, 84 - Miklus, 97 - Harrington, HWT - Cabel
Don't know if there is a better substitute for Steiert, Weatherman or Harrington out there.
Don't know if there is a better substitute for Steiert, Weatherman or Harrington out there.
Maybe Ross Larson at Heavy over Cabell
Here is a complete list of Iowans who are on a D1 roster: http://iawrestle.com/2015/11/12/iowans-in-di-wrestling-2015-16-edition/
Minnesota's doesn't change much but Moore in Zillmer in those big holes surely makes a difference.
125-Petry
133-Brancale
141-Thorn, Mitch Bengston NDSU
149- Short
157- Kingsley
165- Cooper Moore, Clint Poster SCSU
174- Wanzek
184- Hayden Zillmer, NDSU
197-Pfarr
285-Kroells, Stoll
125-Petry
133-Brancale
141-Thorn, Mitch Bengston NDSU
149- Short
157- Kingsley
165- Cooper Moore, Clint Poster SCSU
174- Wanzek
184- Hayden Zillmer, NDSU
197-Pfarr
285-Kroells, Stoll
This is not me being a homer, I'm really asking this for the friendly PSU guys who post here. That lineup took me by surprise. I expected top names across the board and was a little shocked at how far down the rankings I had to go to find someone at each weight. If we did number of ranked guys per weight, well PA, OH obviously are pretty tough to compete with. Top level talent at least in this quick sample actually surprised me how well Iowa would do.
Did I miss some obviously ones PA peeps?
Did I miss some obviously ones PA peeps?
Outside of Thorn and big Pharr, not much quality there. Little doubt they are trending down. The current Steveson on redshirt appears to have been recruited to get a big "in" with the little bro.
Also doesn't look like the Iowa transfer Berge will see the lineup anytime soon. That's why I think Brady ends up in IC.
Also doesn't look like the Iowa transfer Berge will see the lineup anytime soon. That's why I think Brady ends up in IC.
Take half of Michigan's lineup and fill in the holes with half of Mizzou's lineup to get Illinois' best team.
(Not really but damn close)
(Not really but damn close)
125- Nato #1
133- Ryan Taylor, #6/George Dicamillo, #4 over DiJulius, #8
141- Dean Heil, #1
149- Hunter Stieber/Anthony Collica, #10 over Heffernan #8
157- Ian Miller, #2
165- Issac Jordan, #2
174- Bo Jordan, #1
184- Dominic Abounader #8
197- Phil Wellington, #10
Hvy- Ty Walz, #2
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Re: Steveson
Bobby was ranked #1 at his weight, recruited and already a Gopher commit before Gable made his big splash to start being looked at as a blue chipper.
Penn States team this year will likely have 7-8/10 starters from Pennsylvania...
25- Megaludis PA
33- Conaway PA
41- Gullibon PA
49- Retherford PA
57- Nolf PA
65- Morelli PA/ Rasheed NY
74- Nickal TX
84- McCutcheon PA
97- McIntosh CA
285- Johnson PA
If you wanted an all PA team then it could look like this....
25- Megaludis
33- Conaway
41- Henderson/ Gulibon/ Racciato/ Chisko
49- Retherford
57- Nolf
65- Morelli? idk
74- idk
84- Nate brown/
97-Nye
HVY- Soloman
Just off the top of my head a couple other good "state" teams
Illinois
25- Mcghee/Klimara
33- Richards
41- Jauch?
49- Mayes
57- Murphy
65- no idea
74- Butler
84- Dechow/ brooks
97- Koepke?
HVY- Marsden
Michigan
25- Youtsey
33-?
41- Horan
49- Pantaleo
57- ??
65- Logan Massa
74- Weatherspoon/ ottinger
84- Dean
97- Abro
HVY- Coon
NJ
25- ?
33- ?
41- Ashnault/ McKenna
49- Clagon/Richardson/ Cobb
57- Lewis/ Mascola
65- Perotti/Ramos
74- Bernstein
84- Gravina
97-Smith
285-Smith
CA-
25- Rodriguez
33- Garret
41- Metcate
49- Briceno idk
57- IMAR
65- Wilson
74- Hammond
84- Reyes idk
97- McIntosh
285- IDK Nevills when healthy
Overall i think OH, PA, CA, IA and Ill would be tough to beat....
25- Megaludis PA
33- Conaway PA
41- Gullibon PA
49- Retherford PA
57- Nolf PA
65- Morelli PA/ Rasheed NY
74- Nickal TX
84- McCutcheon PA
97- McIntosh CA
285- Johnson PA
If you wanted an all PA team then it could look like this....
25- Megaludis
33- Conaway
41- Henderson/ Gulibon/ Racciato/ Chisko
49- Retherford
57- Nolf
65- Morelli? idk
74- idk
84- Nate brown/
97-Nye
HVY- Soloman
Just off the top of my head a couple other good "state" teams
Illinois
25- Mcghee/Klimara
33- Richards
41- Jauch?
49- Mayes
57- Murphy
65- no idea
74- Butler
84- Dechow/ brooks
97- Koepke?
HVY- Marsden
Michigan
25- Youtsey
33-?
41- Horan
49- Pantaleo
57- ??
65- Logan Massa
74- Weatherspoon/ ottinger
84- Dean
97- Abro
HVY- Coon
NJ
25- ?
33- ?
41- Ashnault/ McKenna
49- Clagon/Richardson/ Cobb
57- Lewis/ Mascola
65- Perotti/Ramos
74- Bernstein
84- Gravina
97-Smith
285-Smith
CA-
25- Rodriguez
33- Garret
41- Metcate
49- Briceno idk
57- IMAR
65- Wilson
74- Hammond
84- Reyes idk
97- McIntosh
285- IDK Nevills when healthy
Overall i think OH, PA, CA, IA and Ill would be tough to beat....
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Filling in some Illinois gaps:
25- Mcghee/Klimara
33- Richards/Cortez
41- Fisher/Jauch/Carton
49- Mayes
57- Murphy/Brill
65- Sutton
74- Butler/Mahomes
84- Dechow/Brooks
97- Andre Lee is current Illini starter
HVY- Marsden
Would Marstellar make the team at 165 or 174? Obviously he isn;t making the PA team at 157 because of Nolf and because of his performance. I would think he would make the team at 165 though based on last year's results.
I thought Jake Short would be a big time stud in college. He looked to have turned the corner this year then gets beat up by the Indiana kids. Here are his senior year at Fargo results. He placed ahead of some pretty decent kids.
1st Place - Ryan Blees of North Dakota
2nd Place - Jake Short of Minnesota
3rd Place - Zach Kelly of Pennsylvania
4th Place - Anthony Valencia of California
5th Place - Brandon Sorenson of Iowa
6th Place - Vincent Corsaro of Indiana
7th Place - Brian Murphy of Illinois
8th Place - Darick Lapaglia of Missouri
The judges ruled that you can't claim Carton because he finished his career wrestling in Iowa.
I'm going to get hammered for this one...
I think he'll be our starter next year at 141. He is a guy with a big motor that has continuously improved since he's gotten here. He was a 33lber that had to get bigger and has had time to do so. It stinks that he was injured earlier this year so he really hasn't had a chance to prove himself. I think He would have a few wins vs. guys Ryan lost to this year if he would have been in the lineup(if healthy). I'd guess if he had been in the lineup all year he would be ranked 12-15 right now.
I think he'll be our starter next year at 141. He is a guy with a big motor that has continuously improved since he's gotten here. He was a 33lber that had to get bigger and has had time to do so. It stinks that he was injured earlier this year so he really hasn't had a chance to prove himself. I think He would have a few wins vs. guys Ryan lost to this year if he would have been in the lineup(if healthy). I'd guess if he had been in the lineup all year he would be ranked 12-15 right now.
WTH! No, the reason I think Brady ends up at Iowa is that Big brother looks to be struggling a bit at both schools. His name NEVER comes up on the Goofs' forum when they discuss a few years down the road with projected lineups. There is something going on that is preventing him from being mentioned.
In summary... Iowa's future is considerably brighter going forward with the POSSIBILITY of a Kem/Marinelli/Berge combo. Way better then a , Stroker/Early/Berge combo. Plus... at Iowa you have a stable coaching staff for quite some time. At Minny after J... not so much.
Yep... looks like Short has gas tank issues and his college offense seems limited. BS majors him this year.
I'm a fan of whomever wins the spot but I do not think it will be Topher Carton at 141 next year for Iowa unless there's an injury. That's nothing against Carton. I just suspect we have someone better.
I was planning to bring this up in this thread. Where are the Minny fans who were so outspoken that Berge would thrive at Minny and come back to haunt Iowa? Or, an even bigger question, where are the Iowa fans who said the same? Is that still going to happen or is it not as likely of a possibility now?
I agree fully that if Carton had not been injured he would have beaten out Ryan this year. I also think BG will beat them all out when he comes back. Carton will have his chance next year. We haven't seen enough of Turk to determine if he will take the spot from Carton. Hopefully Midlands will give us that look.
IDK what to think about 141 next year, even this year its still a pretty big question mark until at LEAST midlands.
Carton and Ryan both got whipped by Long at the Grandview open, Carton got hurt, Ryan didn't, Ryan got the spot by default. Cartons match against Ashnault i'd say he outwrestled Ashnault to be honest, minus giving up that 4 pt tilt, in his 8-4 loss. This season Carton is our best option if he can stay healthy, unless Grothus proves himself against him/competition (which I think will happen).
Next year I think it is between Turk and Carton. Even this season, Turk has a Win over Gross and Ryan has an L.
SR Carton next year may be the best Carton we've seen in his time here, whereas Turk could come out like a ball of fire after getting acclimated to college wrestling during his RS year. Interesting stuff for sure, folks.
Carton and Ryan both got whipped by Long at the Grandview open, Carton got hurt, Ryan didn't, Ryan got the spot by default. Cartons match against Ashnault i'd say he outwrestled Ashnault to be honest, minus giving up that 4 pt tilt, in his 8-4 loss. This season Carton is our best option if he can stay healthy, unless Grothus proves himself against him/competition (which I think will happen).
Next year I think it is between Turk and Carton. Even this season, Turk has a Win over Gross and Ryan has an L.
SR Carton next year may be the best Carton we've seen in his time here, whereas Turk could come out like a ball of fire after getting acclimated to college wrestling during his RS year. Interesting stuff for sure, folks.
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