Mosai Newsom Could Commit To Nebraska This Weekend
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Not too mention they were also 2 plays away from being 2-10.
Whaaaat?!?! I'm more than a bit of a mathematician ... or your logic-fail just about made some of my circuits blow.
Firstly, if you excuse the Minnesota game ... then how do you account for Nebraska's resilience against Penn State? The Huskers were pretty poor at defending the run ... and once the Gophers put 30 points up on them at half ... THAT is when they waved the white-flag (or crap-stained trousers).
If you want to play the "shoulda game" ... then I could argue with equally credible arguments that the the Huskers "should have been" 2-10 last season. How could I make such a claim? Just consider the season how it transpired ... but then also add in the Arkansas State and Purdue games (both of which required late heroics by the Huskers).
Don't get me wrong ... I agree that the Huskers will likely be a much better group with Frost at the helm. However, that doesn't necessarily imply that it will be a brilliant record in year-one.
I'd also add that while many of the Husker trolls on this board belittle Iowa for being a perennial 8-5 team .... by your very arguments, a Hawkeye fan could claim that the Hawks "should have been" 10-3 ... perhaps better. After all, how far away were the Hawks from winning against both Northwestern and Penn State? Without the botched punt-block versus Purdue ... the momentum of the game could have remained with the Hawks the whole game.
Name the 7ish wins in 2018. You might win 7 if you can figure out how to go 6-6 and go to a bowl then maybe. I say 5-7. Think Frost would accept a bowl invitation at 5-7.
Minnesota was hot garbage, Nebraska giving up 50 points to them doesnt make logical sense. In order to justify that they would A) Need to have like Idaho St talent B) Have other problems like giving up. Nebraska shouldnt lose to NIU ever. Iowa shouldnt lose to Central Michigan and Western Michgian Ever.
With the talent Nebraska has on the team, they shouldnt be giving up 50 points to Minnesota's garbage offense. It was terrible garbage coaching. The point is going from 4-8 to 7-5 isnt some Herculean feat in year 1.
It comes down to percentages.
Akron
Troy
Colorado
Purdue
Minnesota
Illinois
6 home games. Nebraska should be favored/tossup games at best.
Northwestern
Iowa
2 Winnable Away Games. NW is a husker home game, they barely beat garbage Nebraska last year. Iowa is the 12th game of the season. I would pick Iowa them to beat them in week 4, but it will be Week 13 by then. We will already know who Nebraska is by then.
MSU
Michigan
Tough Road Game and Tough Home Game. Id assume Nebraska doesnt win either, but Id say similar things about MSU. It is game 11, by that time we will know who Nebraska is by then.
Wisconsin
Seriously doubt they win. But Nebraska has actually played them well the past 3 years.
OSU
Maybe a 5% chance to win If I am being generous.
I seriously doubt Nebraska goes 0-5 on the road. Along with the favorable home schedule 7-5 isn't that hard. Iowa went 4-8 to 8-4 from 2012 to 2013. I dont see the 5 year rebuild that you guys are wishing for.
It's possible.
Who do you see as the most likely road win?
Frost can't play on the field so he's dependent on a lot of personnel that didn't fair well last season. He won't be coaching his own people.
I think your putting a lot down on beating teams u got trucked by last year but coming out of the gate you might do well.
LOL. That's fine. You said 7-5ish first year which means you expect 8-9. You said minimum 9 second year which means means you expect a West Division title. I know a tiny bit about B1G football and you don't have the OL/DL to compete. Iowa will punish Nebraska the next two years.
Minnesota proved decent defending the run last year ... and Purdue was a much improved team last year. Minnesota will be contending with a new QB ... but a substantial hunk of their rushing game returns. Purdue will be better on O ... but likely will be rebuilding on D. Both Brohm and Fleck are quality coaches who own the advantage on Frost that they're already a year into implementing their vision for their respective programs.
Is it not a little arrogant to assume that Nebraska owns any sort of advantage over those 2 teams? As much as you might wish to dismiss the fact ... Minnesota DID pummel the Huskers. Furthermore, defeating Purdue required last-minute heroics.
I'll agree with you that Northwestern's home-field advantage is no advantage ... but that also doesn't change the fact that Northwestern, as a program, is currently well ahead of the Huskers. More importantly, Frost intends on re-establishing the Husker rushing game ... and Northwestern has proven quite capable of defending the run.
As for the Huskers having a chance against Iowa ... I'm not enough of a fool to guarantee an Iowa victory ... however, I am willing to prognosticate that the odds obviously favor Iowa in the match-up. First and foremost, the Hawks will have already faced teams that feature formidable odd-front defenses .... defenses that likely will put the Husker D to shame. Thus, given that Iowa will have a smart, battle-tested QB finishing his 2nd year of starting ... I'd say that it is safe to say that Iowa ought to own multiple significant advantages in the game.
Also, have you done your homework on Troy and Colorado? Troy's head coach appears to be an up-and-comer in the field ... and the primary thing counting against Troy in the game against the Huskers is that they'll be featuring a new QB. Over the past 2 years, Colorado has seemed to make significant gains ... although they didn't fare quite so well last year with their new DC.
Lastly, you rightly point out that Iowa went from 4-8 to 8-4 in the transition from 2012 to 2013. However, part of why Iowa went 4-8 in the first place was because they had all new schemes on O ... and also they got hit pretty hard by injuries that season too. Last time I checked, the Huskers are breaking in all new schemes on both O and D .... so even if the transitions are smooth ... what happens to the Huskers if a key player goes down to injury? Let's say you guys are all primed for Martinez to start ... but given that it's a run-first O ... and he's a mobile QB ... what happens if he goes down to injury?
And then there's that..........
Northwestern. Minnesota would be the only team that I am putting a lot of down on, but that is beacuse they suck. Iowa again, its week 13, Nebraska will be 11 games removed from 2017.
I'm hoping for 8 or 9 when including a bowl game. But that depends on some things I have to see, mainly QB play and making it 3-0 in nonconference. If Nebraska goes 3-0 in the nonconference. All they need is a 4-5 Big Ten record, not exactly hard.
Im not saying they are even going to go 7-5, Im saying if they get decent improvement, 7-5 isnt some Mircale on Ice story. Riley wouldn't have gotten fired if he had 4-8 talent.
You know Frost went 6-7 his first year at UCF. He had tons of talent, in a much weaker league. Three UCF players were drafted the first two days, not Frost recruits by the way.
Saying things like Nebraska shouldn't lose to NIU ever or Iowa shouldn't lose to CMU or Western Michigan ever says more about your knowledge of the college FB landscape than it does about Nebraska or Iowa. The only teams that are guaranteed to not lose to a MAC opponent are tams like OSU that recruit at such a level that their ability level will just win them the game. It might make you or I feel good to say "Team X should never lose to Team Y" but the reality is the talent level isn't so disparate that those upsets can't happen if the favorite doesn't play well.
From what Nebraska has on its roster, I would not be shocked to see Huskers get to a bowl game. That will be very good given the schedule. But if there's injuries in key places, then things get dicey.
I have no idea about the Huskers in 2019 ... but you're hearing it from me know ... I truly believe that the 2019 season will be one of the high-water mark years for the Hawks. Thus, while the Huskers should invariably be much improved from '18 to '19 ... the B1G west will dominated by the Badgers and the Hawkeyes in '19.
In 2015, a plucky NIU stood toe-to-toe with Ohio State ... and only lost 20-13. The landscape of college football has changed indeed!
They still went 0-12. Im sure they didnt ahve 0-12 talent, jsut like im sure Nebraska didnt have 4-8 talent.
Those losses should never happen. I cant speak for Iowa, but Nebraska has literally lost to a nonP5 team like 3 times. NIU in 2017, Southern Miss in 2004, and Arizona St in the 70s when they were in the WAC. It shouldnt happen ever
Very true. I tried to point this out in an earlier post. Eight or nine wins today is harder then it was pre HF, or even during his early years. There's simply more talent out there then 20 years ago. People ridiculed Iowa for losing to NDSU, (and NO I don't think we should have lost that game), but it wasn't as big a shock as people made it out to be. Not only had NDSU been regularly beating power 5 schools on the road, but many other schools are giving name schools a game these days. App State at the BIG House is certainly another example that you can be beat if you don't bring it every game.
I whole heartedly disagree with you, there are some very good non P5 teams out there and they are very capable of beating P5 teams and yes it happens..
Ask SF.
Negative.
https://247sports.com/player/mosai-newsom-46043169
He is a Nebraska "lean" but it sounds like we are sitting really well with this guy.
https://247sports.com/player/beau-robbins-91938
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