Musk says he can cut 2 trillion from the budget

[bunsen82]

The people collecting SS checks today are the ones ‘stealing’ your money.

If you understood how a Ponzi scheme works you’d understand why there will only be ~77% of promised benefits after 2033.

 

[bunsen82]

So we should allow China to export goods to the USA that are undercutting American businesses? Are you aware China subsidizes their exports? Pull your own head out of your ass & educate yourself instead of spewing garbage outta your stink hole!

Key Points about Countervailing Duties:​

1. Purpose:
   • Leveling the playing field: If a foreign government is providing subsidies (such as tax breaks, grants, or low-interest loans) to its domestic producers, it can lead to those goods being sold at artificially low prices in the importing country. This makes it difficult for domestic producers in the importing country to compete.
   • Protecting domestic industries: CVDs are used to protect local industries from unfair competition caused by these subsidized imports.
2. How CVDs Work:
   • If a government believes that imports of certain goods are being sold at unfairly low prices due to subsidies, it can initiate an investigation to determine the level of the subsidy.
   • If the investigation finds that the subsidies are indeed harmful to domestic industries, the government may impose countervailing duties on those goods to bring their price back up to a level that reflects the fair market value.
3. Examples of Subsidies:
   • Direct financial assistance: Governments may provide direct payments to exporters to reduce their costs.
   • Tax breaks: Exporters may receive tax exemptions or reductions that reduce their cost of production.
   • Government-provided loans: Low-interest loans or loan guarantees may be offered to businesses, giving them an unfair advantage in the global market.
4. How Are CVDs Calculated?
   • The amount of the countervailing duty is typically equal to the subsidy amount provided by the exporting country. This is determined through a detailed investigation conducted by trade authorities (like the U.S. Department of Commerce).
   • Once determined, the countervailing duty is imposed on the imported goods to offset the unfair advantage gained through the subsidy.
5. Relation to Anti-Dumping Duties:
   • Anti-dumping duties (ADDs) are different from countervailing duties but serve a similar purpose. Anti-dumping duties are imposed when foreign goods are sold in the importing country at a price lower than their normal value, often due to predatory pricing practices.
   • Countervailing duties, on the other hand, target government subsidies and are aimed at addressing the effects of those subsidies, while anti-dumping duties are focused on unfair pricing practices like dumping.

Example:​

• U.S. and Chinese Solar Panels: A well-known case involved the U.S. imposing countervailing duties on solar panels imported from China. The U.S. government argued that the Chinese government was subsidizing its solar panel industry, making it difficult for American manufacturers to compete. As a result, countervailing duties were imposed to offset the subsidy, raising the price of Chinese solar panels in the U.S.

Countervailing Duty Process:​

1. Complaint: A domestic company or industry in the importing country files a petition alleging that imports are being subsidized and causing harm to the domestic industry.
2. Investigation: The importing country’s trade authority (e.g., the U.S. Department of Commerce) investigates the claim to determine the extent of the subsidy and the injury caused to the domestic industry.
3. Determination: If the investigation finds that subsidies are being provided and that they are harming the domestic industry, countervailing duties are calculated and imposed.
4. Ongoing Monitoring: After the imposition of the duties, the situation is often monitored, and the duties can be adjusted or removed if circumstances change.

International Trade Agreements:​

• Countervailing duties are governed by international trade rules, particularly under the World Trade Organization (WTO) agreements. Countries that believe countervailing duties are unjustified can challenge them through the WTO dispute settlement process.

In summary, countervailing duties are a tool used in international trade to counteract the negative effects of government subsidies on foreign goods, protecting domestic industries from unfair competition caused by artificially low-priced imports.

Yep force citizens to pay twice what they were for the same product . . . Do you really listen to what you are saying?

 

[seminole97]

Yep force citizens to pay twice what they were for the same product . . . Do you really listen to what you are saying?

Should we align our trade policies to enrich the authoritarians who control China?
Is that actually in our best interest?

 

[bunsen82]

Should we align our trade policies to enrich the authoritarians who control China?
Is that actually in our best interest?

What was Trumps primary issue he won on, the economy and inflation, and your first order of business is creating more inflation in the system.

 

[seminole97]

What was Trumps primary issue he won on, the economy and inflation, and your first order of business is creating more inflation in the system.

Should we align our trade policies to enrich the authoritarians who control China?
Is that actually in our best interest?

“Inflation is always and everywhere a monetary phenomenon, in the sense that it is and can be produced only by a more rapid increase in the quantity of money than in output.”

 

[bunsen82]

Should we align our trade policies to enrich the authoritarians who control China?
Is that actually in our best interest?

“Inflation is always and everywhere a monetary phenomenon, in the sense that it is and can be produced only by a more rapid increase in the quantity of money than in output.”

I’m not saying we should be friendly with China however the result will be a major FU to everyone who just voted for you, Yes it worked for Trump with Steel, it won’t be as effective with cheap goods. It would show the intelligence level of you Trump and those who voted for him.

 

[seminole97]

I’m not saying we should be friendly with China however the result will be a major FU to everyone who just voted for you, Yes it worked for Trump with Steel, it won’t be as effective with cheap goods. It would show the intelligence level of you Trump and his his voters.

I have a hard time deciding which decision by GHWB was worse:

Not seeking to isolate the Chicoms (instead of enriching them) with the Berlin Wall falling on the heels of the Tiananmen Square Massacre

or

Sticking Uncle Sam's dick into the hornet's nest of the Middle East and embarking us on decades of war to no advantage (unless we count enriching the MIC).

 

[bunsen82]

I have a hard time deciding which decision by GHWB was worse:

Not seeking to isolate the Chicoms (instead of enriching them) with the Berlin Wall falling on the heels of the Tiananmen Square Massacre

or

Sticking Uncle Sam's dick into the hornet's nest of the Middle East and embarking us on decades of war to no advantage (unless we count enriching the MIC).

That’s not the discussion, Trump literally just said inflation would be better with him and he will immediately mess with inflation. You have two policy fronts that are diametrically opposed. Control inflation or go to protectionism and jack up tariffs on everything. Again it shows the intelligence levels and critical thinking skills of most of his voters.

 

[seminole97]

That’s not the discussion, Trump literally just said inflation would be better with him and he will immediately mess with inflation.

Taxes don't cause inflation.
Taxes don't increase the money supply.

In our fiat monetary system federal debt serves as the basis for credit (and thereby monetary pool) expansion.

Powell has been running down the Fed's balance sheet peaked in April '22, which turned off the turbo that was running on inflation.

If Trump can actually slash spending you'll see the value of the dollar surge, and make imports cheaper.

I'm waiting to see if there are any signs of the bogeyman: Deflation.

 

[joelbc1]

Well yeah no shit, but I am curious what our Trump standard bearers have to say on where the 2T will come from.

Oh hell, Trump NEVER said that!

If he did, he didn’t mean it!