Neither #11 Boise State nor #16 Arizona State (or any Big 12 team) should be getting a 1st Round Bye in the CFP

[Franisdaman]

Nov 26 Projected CFP Field:

First-round matchups (on campus):​

#9 Tennessee Volunteers at #8 Georgia Bulldogs
Winner plays: #1 Oregon

#12 Arizona State Sun Devils at #5 Ohio State Buckeyes
Winner plays: #4 Boise State

#11 Indiana Hoosiers at #6 Penn State Nittany Lions
Winner plays: #3 Miami

#10 SMU Mustangs at #7 Notre Dame Fighting Irish
Winner plays: #2 Texas

CFP Top 25:​

(Teams in BOLD would make the 12 team field)

1. Oregon (11-0)............1st Round Bye
2. Ohio State (10-1)
3. Texas (10-1)...............1st Round Bye
4. Penn State (10-1)
5. Notre Dame (10-1)
6. Miami (10-1)...............1st Round Bye
7. Georgia (9-2)
8. Tennessee (9-2)
9. SMU (10-1)
10. Indiana (10-1)
11. Boise State (10-1)........1st Round Bye
12. Clemson (9-2)
13. Alabama (8-3)
14. Ole Miss (8-3)
15. South Carolina (8-3)
16. Arizona State (9-2)
17. Tulane (9-2)
18. Iowa State (9-2)
19. BYU (9-2)
20. Texas A&M (8-3)
21. Missouri (8-3)
22. UNLV (9-2)
23. Illinois (8-3)
24. Kansas State (8-3)
25. Coloardo (8-3)


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ORIGINAL POST:

8 ESPN writers project #12 Boise State getting a FIRST ROUND BYE.

5 ESPN writers project #21 Arizona State getting a FIRST ROUND BYE.

Arizona State (9-2, 6-2) was picked in the preseason to finish last in the Big 12. Their 2 losses were to Texas Tech (30-22) and Cincinnati (24-14). They finish the regular season at Arizona (4-7, 2-6)

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[Hawk_4shur]

Is that because they think they will win their conference? That's how it's set up, right?

 

[Franisdaman]

Is that because they think they will win their conference? That's how it's set up, right?

Correct; Arizona State is projected to now win the Big 12.

 

[Franisdaman]

Where things stood on Nov 19:

Nov 19 CFP Rankings:
(teams in BOLD are part of the 12 team field)

1 Oregon (1st Round Bye)
2 Ohio State
3 Texas (1st Round Bye)
4 Penn State
5 Indiana
6 Notre Dame
7 Alabama
8 Miami (1st Round Bye)
9 Ole Miss
10 Georgia
11 Tennessee
12 Boise State (1st Round Bye)
13 SMU
14 BYU
15 Texas A&M
16 Colorado
17 Clemson
18 South Carolina
19 Army
20 Tulane
21 Arizona State
22 Iowa State
23 Missouri
24 UNLV
25 Illinois

1st-Round CFP Byes​

Note: Seeding is based on the CFP Top 25.

# 1 seed Oregon Ducks
#2 seed Texas Longhorns
#3 seed Miami Hurricanes
#4 seed Boise State

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First-round matchups (on campus)​

On Dec 20 and 21:

#9 Alabama at #8 Notre Dame
Winner plays: No. 1 Oregon

#12 BYU at #5 Ohio State
Winner plays: No. 4 Boise State

#11 Georgia at #6 Penn State
Winner plays: No. 3 Miami

#10 Ole Miss at #7 Indiana
Winner plays: No. 2 Texas

The 4 quarterfinal games, on Dec 31 and Jan 1, will be played at:

* Fiesta Bowl (State Farm Stadium in Glendale, AZ)
* Peach Bowl (Mercedes-Benz Stadium in Atlanta, GA)
* Rose Bowl (Pasadena, CA)
* Sugar Bowl (Caesars Superdome in New Orleans, LA)

The 2 semifinal games, on Jan 9 and 10, will take place at:

* Orange Bowl (Hard Rock Stadium, Miami, FL)
* Cotton Bowl (AT&T Stadium in Arlington, TX)

Jan 20: The CFP National Championship at Mercedes-Benz Stadium in Atlanta, GA

 

[Franisdaman]

Is that because they think they will win their conference? That's how it's set up, right?

All of the upsets shook things up.

These 4 teams (which lost) WERE part of last week's 12 team CFP projection:

#5 Indiana lost 38-15 to #2 Ohio State
#7 Alabama lost 24-3 to Oklahoma
#9 Ole Miss lost 24-17 to Florida
#14 BYU lost 28-23 to #21 Arizona State

In the far left column you will see who WON and LOST this week. #1 Oregon was idle.

Nov 19 CFP Rankings:
(teams in BOLD are part of the 12 team field)

1 Oregon (1st Round Bye)
WON 2 Ohio State
WON 3 Texas (1st Round Bye)
WON 4 Penn State
LOST 5 Indiana
WON 6 Notre Dame
LOST 7 Alabama
WON 8 Miami (1st Round Bye)
LOST 9 Ole Miss
WON 10 Georgia
WON 11 Tennessee
WON 12 Boise State (1st Round Bye)
WON 13 SMU
LOST 14 BYU
LOST 15 Texas A&M
LOST 16 Colorado
WON 17 Clemson
WON 18 South Carolina
LOST 19 Army
20 Tulane
WON 21 Arizona State
WON 22 Iowa State
WON 23 Missouri
WON 24 UNLV
WON 25 Illinois

 

[TheRealHerky]

Alabama would smoke Any big 12 team

 

[HawkeyeGenius]

The CFP is a joke before it even starts.

 

[Moral]

The CFP is a joke before it even starts.

Give them a couple more decades and they will get this all figured out.

 

[BrewHawk]

It will be 32 teams very soon. Too much money at stake.

 

[Franisdaman]

Alabama would smoke Any big 12 team

Agreed.

So much for the idea that an expanded playoff would generate less controversy since it now involved 12 teams instead of just 4.

 

[BonzoFury]

Correct; Arizona State is projected to now win the Big 12.

They'll have to move up quite a bit in the rankings. The highest ranked conference champs get byes. Right now that's the B1G, SEC, ACC and Mountain West.

 

[ASUHawkeye]

Alabama would smoke Any big 12 team

Alabama, when they are locked in, would crush almost anyone outside the top 5-7.

Deboer teams, even as UW, often played to the level of the opponent though. I’m a season ticket holder there and it was a blast but maddening haha.

College football is on crack this year and it is a beautiful thing. Aside from the top BIG/SEC games, the average big 12 game is fun. There’s a bit more talent in the league than people realize outside of CO.

 

[Franisdaman]

They'll have to move up quite a bit in the rankings. The highest ranked conference champs get byes. Right now that's the B1G, SEC, ACC and Mountain West.

It's interesting that 5 ESPN writers project #21 Arizona State passing Boise State & getting that 1st round bye.

 

[BonzoFury]

It's interesting that 5 ESPN writers project #21 Arizona State passing Boise State & getting that 1st round bye.

Saw that.

 

[Franisdaman]

The CFP is a joke before it even starts.

It's pretty clear why the B1G & SEC are now called the Power 2 and the Big 12 & ACC are called the Other 2.

 

[ASUHawkeye]

It's interesting that 5 ESPN writers project #21 Arizona State passing Boise State & getting that 1st round bye.

ASU is playing better than them now. They remind me a bit of the Shonn Greene Iowa team.

They’ve gotten so much better the past month. Leavitt is an absolute stud at QB. Same with Tyson at WR. I hope ASU can hold onto them.

 

[Franisdaman]

ASU is playing better than them now. They remind me a bit of the Shonn Greene Iowa team.

They’ve gotten so much better the past month. Leavitt is an absolute stud at QB. Same with Tyson at WR. I hope ASU can hold onto them.

Saw that.

do you think AZ State will win the Big 12?

personally, I have no idea. they are equally bad, imo

 

[Georgia_Hawk]

Alabama would smoke Any big 12 team

Really? You don't think there are any Big12 teams on par with Vandy or Oklahoma?

 

[Georgia_Hawk]

There have to be several teams not too thrilled about having to play in their conference championship games.

 

[Franisdaman]

There have to be several teams not too thrilled about having to play in their conference championship games.

Who you got in the Big 12 title game?

Current top 4 teams (all other teams have 3 or more conference losses):​

Team	CONF	OVERALL
Arizona State	6-2	9-2
BYU	6-2	9-2
Iowa State	6-2	9-2
Colorado	6-2	8-3

 

[ASUHawkeye]

do you think AZ State will win the Big 12?

personally, I have no idea. they are equally bad, imo

I think they have a good shot but I’ve seen them choke so much, it’s hard to say. Nobody makes fun of them more than I do.

This is the most I’ve seen ASU fans in AZ care about their team and direction of the program ever. The expanded playoff is great for the sport.

The talent has obviously evened out a bit more too, which is why Saban left. The ceiling of teams is lower but the floor is higher IMO.

 

[BonzoFury]

do you think AZ State will win the Big 12?

personally, I have no idea. they are equally bad, imo

Head-to-head is the first criteria. ISU and Colorado haven't played any of the other 3.

BYU would be out by their loss to ASU (0-1)
ASU would be in (1-0) beat BYU

Second criteria: Record against common opponents.
Identical 5-2 for Colorado and the clones

Third criteria: Win % against the next highest common opponent. TTech is likely that team which would favor Colorado.

How bout KState just take care of business on Saturday and put this to rest.

 

[Franisdaman]

Head-to-head is the first criteria. ISU and Colorado haven't played any of the other 3.

BYU would be out by their loss to ASU (0-1)
ASU would be in (1-0) beat BYU

Second criteria: Record against common opponents.
Identical 5-2 for Colorado and the clones

Third criteria: Win % against the next highest common opponent. TTech is likely that team which would favor Colorado.

How bout KState just take care of business on Saturday and put this to rest.

Crazy tie breakers in these mega conferences....

 

[ASUHawkeye]

Head-to-head is the first criteria. ISU and Colorado haven't played any of the other 3.

BYU would be out by their loss to ASU (0-1)
ASU would be in (1-0) beat BYU

Second criteria: Record against common opponents.
Identical 5-2 for Colorado and the clones

Third criteria: Win % against the next highest common opponent. TTech is likely that team which would favor Colorado.

How bout KState just take care of business on Saturday and put this to rest.

Pretty crazy. It has been highly entertaining. CFB is obviously very regional and everyone hates on things outside their region/conf, but this chaos and the debates that will ensue are way better than the 4 team playoff.

 

[ButtersHawk]

I still think it's garbage that a top 4 team's prize for being good is a bye followed my a neutral site game.

The first two rounds should be played on campus.

 

[ICWestfan]

Heads willl explode if only 3 SEC teams make the CFP.

 

[ASUHawkeye]

Heads willl explode if only 3 SEC teams make the CFP.

It’s funny they control CFB and will be the most angry at what they created. Obv they still get the most talent but with NIL/Transfer Portal, it’s going to be much more of an even playing field than they had hoped for.

 

[Franisdaman]

Heads willl explode if only 3 SEC teams make the CFP.

 

[BonzoFury]

Heads willl explode if only 3 SEC teams make the CFP.

Meaning 2 from the ACC? Miami and SMU?

 

[Franisdaman]

I demand that @HawkeyeR_A_crapFanbase (who joined this site yesterday at 8:27 pm CT) like this post before he gets banned.

Thank you.

 

[ICWestfan]

Meaning 2 from the ACC? Miami and SMU?

Sure. What if both are highly rated and meet in the ACCCG and it is close? Honestly, I only see UT, UGA, Tenn making it from the SEC UNLESS TAMU runs the table.

 

[Dr. Phil Seuss]

Boise as a 4 would be hilarious. See them get absolutely stomped by someone legit like Oregon or tOSU. 55-17 kinda night.

 

[AEG82]

Alabama would smoke Any big 12 team

Obviously.

 

[Franisdaman]

Boise as a 4 would be hilarious. See them get absolutely stomped by someone legit like Oregon or tOSU. 55-17 kinda night.

i wonder how long it will be before the 1st round bye issue will be addressed

 

[BonzoFury]

i wonder how long it will be before the 1st round bye issue will be addressed

Probably before next season. Just go to 16 teams and eliminate the bye.

 

[ASUHawkeye]

Probably before next season. Just go to 16 teams and eliminate the bye.

Klatt was saying that it will move to 14 teams here in a couples years.

 

[ASUHawkeye]

Boise as a 4 would be hilarious. See them get absolutely stomped by someone legit like Oregon or tOSU. 55-17 kinda night.

Boise State almost won at Oregon. I think Boise State has gotten worse and Oregon has gotten better though. Oregon would dominate if they played again, IMO.

It’s funny how every fan of 7-5 programs in the BIG/Sec want to see teams like Boise State get killed though. Boise State is far more likeable than teams like Oregon/OSU.

 

[MesaClone]

Alabama would smoke Any big 12 team

As they would any B1G team not named Ohio State.

 

[83Hawk]

do you think AZ State will win the Big 12?

personally, I have no idea. they are equally bad, imo

Iowa State will, unfortunately.

 

[MesaClone]

Head-to-head is the first criteria. ISU and Colorado haven't played any of the other 3.

BYU would be out by their loss to ASU (0-1)
ASU would be in (1-0) beat BYU

Second criteria: Record against common opponents.
Identical 5-2 for Colorado and the clones

Third criteria: Win % against the next highest common opponent. TTech is likely that team which would favor Colorado.

How bout KState just take care of business on Saturday and put this to rest.

Big 12 has already put out an official statement saying that if ASU and ISU win, they will play each other in the Championship Game in Arlington.