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ONE top 25 finish the last 8 years, but only NE is living in the past ;).
ONE bowl win the last 7 years.
That is not mediocre? Cmon man!




is it too much to expect Iowa to finish in the top 25 more than once in 8 years?


It's not too much to expect. On average, this program finishes ranked way more than once every eight years. But go ahead and cherry pick away. Sure, they were on a bad loss streak in the bowls but mediocre programs don't go to a bowl every year.
 
It's not too much to expect. On average, this program finishes ranked way more than once every eight years. But go ahead and cherry pick away. Sure, they were on a bad loss streak in the bowls but mediocre programs don't go to a bowl every year.
anyone can have an off year, but it doesn't take much to win 6 games a year 80% of the time
cherry pick? those are our most recent 8 seasons. Sure I could have included 9/10....but is that where we are now? Looking back to a decade ago? :(
 
Ragainis' resume is rather accsomplished at Notre Dame High. In one year at Avon Old Farms, where he caught 46 passes for 923 yds and 9 tds, he added to that resume. If I were at Rivals I'd rate him as a 5.6 3 star.

  • Four-Year Starter
  • Three-time All-State Selection
  • State’s all-time leader in career receptions with 222
  • 3345 career receiving yards and 21 career receiving tds
  • Caught 59 passes 988 yards and 6 TD’s as a receiver as a senior
  • New Haven Register All Area MVP as a senior
  • Team qualified for CIAC playoffs in 2014, 2015, 2016
  • 2-time New Haven Register Male Athlete of the Year Award Recipient
  • 6 All-State selections in three different sports (football, lacrosse, and indoor track)
 
CT resident here, never post on these boards..i know CT high school football isnt the best, but let me tell you this: you got a hidden gem with Ragaini..tremendous athlete..was surprised scouting report said 'not a burner'..he was hands down faster than anyone on the field when he played..phenomenal hands..great work ethic..most importantly, comes from a great family..you wont have any off field trouble with this kid AT ALL..his dad was a great baseball player at UCONN..UCONN messed up on not grabbing this kid, we need all the help we can get! Lol..best of luck, always admired your program so was happy to see Nico have this opportunity
 
Watching the highlight clips, he does remind me of Nick Easley.

I understand both sides of this thread. Nico would not play WR for Georgia or Alabama. So if that is the standard, you are going to be disappointed.

But there are good reasons to believe that he can be a productive WR at Iowa. It is hard to argue with 222 receptions and 3,545 yards before his year of prep school, or the 46 receptions for 923 yard that he added to the career total in his year at prep school.
 
Quick out of his breaks, snags the ball. I have a feeling some posters in this thread may be eating crow in a couple years. I think Tracy is a lock to contribute next year but Nico and Lockett are two good down the road guys. Hell, it wouldn’t surprise me to see either get mop up reps this coming year. If he hasn’t been ranked, who cares, while the percentages are not in his favor for being a major contributor/superstar, he can still be a solid contributor and role player. Let the kid come in and work before you judge him.
 
Watching the highlight clips, he does remind me of Nick Easley.

I understand both sides of this thread. Nico would not play WR for Georgia or Alabama. So if that is the standard, you are going to be disappointed.

But there are good reasons to believe that he can be a productive WR at Iowa. It is hard to argue with 222 receptions and 3,545 yards before his year of prep school, or the 46 receptions for 923 yard that he added to the career total in his year at prep school.
If you consider the elite WR talent who lie within Iowa's recruiting thumbprint (emphasizing midwest guys) ... look at who usually lands those guys! Typically the elite WR recruits go to Notre Dame, Ohio State, Michigan, or possibly even Michigan State. In the state of Missouri ... the high end recruits often have gone to the in-state school ... but many also have gone to Notre Dame, Oklahoma, and and a few of the other SEC teams.

The point here ... Iowa will most likely recruit like Wisconsin ... and if we want to manage to eventually recruit higher-level WR recruits ... we need to build a WR-tradition like Michigan State. Unfortunately, we're nowhere near close to having that sort of tradition at WR. It is POSSIBLE that we could eventually build such a tradition. But it has to be BUILT first. Hopefully we have a WR coach who can help us "get there."
 
Derrick Smith, Cedric Everson, jacody Coleman.


(Every player I've listed committed December, Jan, or feb of the class they signed in and I don't have info from 1999-2004) as of now I have used like the 05 and 06 classes and then the first names off the top of my head.
 
River city jazz man has already confirmed there will not be another scholly given to a kicker as they cannot justify 2 being spent here so the kicker would have to be a walk on. There are about 3 Eric Grahams for every Josey. And we can go all the way back to 99 if you want, unfourtunatly today I have time to do it if you want. We love the Bob Sanders Josey Jewell stories but there are a ton more andre Harris's than you would imagine if you go back through.
We had 2 consensus AA on defense this past year and both were 2 stars coming in so there’s a starting point for ya.
 
I'm honestly no good at spotting WRs from highlights, but I'm pleasantly surprised. Looks like he has quick feet, good hands, runs deceptive routes, and works to find open spots when the play breaks down. I can see him succeeding in the slot. Anyone know what sort of competition he faced?

https://www.hudl.com/profile/10038128/nico-ragaini
 
Not only was Josh a 3 star he committed in August. We are not looking at it from a star perspective we are looking at it from a "late" signee standpoint. Either way as you go through there are FAR more 2 star and late signee misses than people want to admit. I'm into the 2006 class and can keep pu.ping out names.

https://247sports.com/player/joshua-jackson-33857
 
Yes there are plenty of misses. Same is true for a lot of schools. Would stand to reason because most of the better players have already committed. Of course there are the 5 star guys that love to milk the attention. We generally aren't in on those guys anyway.

A better metric to check is the ratio of late hits to misses compared to other schools. I would like to think we would be pretty solid there.
 
Not only was Josh a 3 star he committed in August. We are not looking at it from a star perspective we are looking at it from a "late" signee standpoint. Either way as you go through there are FAR more 2 star and late signee misses than people want to admit. I'm into the 2006 class and can keep pu.ping out names.

https://247sports.com/player/joshua-jackson-33857
2* per rivals. which leads to another point, how much do you put into rankings when the ones doing the ranking dont even agree?
Linderbaum is a 3* 5.5 on rivals...borderline 2*. I can guarantee the staff would take every 4* over him and certainly not every high 3*....
 
ONE top 25 finish the last 8 years, but only NE is living in the past ;).
ONE bowl win the last 7 years.
That is not mediocre? Cmon man!




is it too much to expect Iowa to finish in the top 25 more than once in 8 years?
You seem to be missing what's most important, we're a great development school for the NFL.
 
Cannot "like" that enough homer.
That's the thing though ... many folks who complain about our talent at WR only complain about our recruiting. It's as if they don't believe that the coaches are working hard to try to land elite talent. The problem has to deal with the attractiveness of our program to elite WR recruits. In order to lure in such recruits ... we have to have a viable "sales pitch."

Obviously, the Hawks can sell itself quite well to D-linemen, O-linemen, Tight-Ends, and defensive backs.

As it relates to QBs ... the fact that we run a pro-happy system and many college programs don't go after traditional QBs with quite as much vigor ... that potentially allow the Hawks to land high-end pro-style QBs. However, even then, we all know that a college team is typically much harder to defend if the QB can flash mobility as a threat.

But let's take a step back for a moment ... has Iowa always been an attractive place for CBs? Hawk fans love to reminisce about Bob Sanders ... but much of our early DB success related more to safeties.

Thus, our more recent allure and success with corners has been a facet that has really been DEVELOPED by Phil Parker over the last decade. Jovon Johnson was a highly under-rated college CB ... but most Iowa fans will remember our early successful secondaries as being infuriating, implementing a bend-but-not-break philosophy.

We really didn't see the Hawks turn out what most folks would perceive as higher end CBs until we had Spievey (who didn't start until 2008). After him, we really started getting on more of a role with pretty good CBs ... turning out guys like Prater, Hyde, King, and now Jackson.

We've consequently been able to reap some recruiting rewards at CB due to the "sales pitch" that we've developed thanks to Phil Parker.

Now the question will be ... can Brian Ferentz and Kelton Copeland morph our passing game so that we an see some WRs have some tangible success that we can sell to recruits? While many fans seemed to overlook it ... but Brian clearly went out of his way to try to build much of our O this year to revolve around Wadley's play-making skills. The intention was admirable ... and had the blocking been "there" ... it likely wouldn't have back-fired. Quite the opposite ... skill players would should love the opportunity to have an adaptable OC who was willing to center an O about them. Of course, for it to supply an adequately convincing "sales pitch" the O also has to be successful ... and therein is the problem we saw with our O this season.

I honestly believe that the Hawks DO have the opportunity to continue to "grow" our O and "grow" our reputation on the offensive side of the ball ... however, for it to work, there have to be tangible results to show results. Otherwise, it's empty hyperbole.

Finally, this also gets back to my original point ... in order to get to where we, as fans, want ... the program still needs to BUILD towards that direction ... and they have to initially do it with the players they can GET! Thus, I find it counterproductive to be disrespectful to talented guys who WANT to be Hawks!
 
Not only was Josh a 3 star he committed in August. We are not looking at it from a star perspective we are looking at it from a "late" signee standpoint. Either way as you go through there are FAR more 2 star and late signee misses than people want to admit. I'm into the 2006 class and can keep pu.ping out names.

https://247sports.com/player/joshua-jackson-33857
The problem with some of the guys you're pulling out ... is you're mislabeling guys who were HITS as misses. For instance, Brett Morse was a multi-year starter who was a beast at FB. Similarly, without Jacody Coleman ... maybe Pat Angerer doesn't emerge in '08. For a hunk of '07, Coleman was a starting MIKE for us. For the early part of '08, Coleman was a co-starter with Angerer. The coaches liked Coleman so much ... they were hoping to have him redshirt for us in '09 so that he could start in '10 for us. Unfortunately, due to the "environment" surrounding the program back then (an environment that also led to O'Keefe leading) ... in some sense, I'm under the impression that Coleman got run off (but not by the coaching staff).

Also, some of the guys who were "misses" were not misses due to lack of talent ... they either did stupid things or did criminally bad or stupid things (Everson is a great example of that).
 
Ragainis' resume is rather accsomplished at Notre Dame High. In one year at Avon Old Farms, where he caught 46 passes for 923 yds and 9 tds, he added to that resume. If I were at Rivals I'd rate him as a 5.6 3 star.

  • Four-Year Starter
  • Three-time All-State Selection
  • State’s all-time leader in career receptions with 222
  • 3345 career receiving yards and 21 career receiving tds
  • Caught 59 passes 988 yards and 6 TD’s as a receiver as a senior
  • New Haven Register All Area MVP as a senior
  • Team qualified for CIAC playoffs in 2014, 2015, 2016
  • 2-time New Haven Register Male Athlete of the Year Award Recipient
  • 6 All-State selections in three different sports (football, lacrosse, and indoor track)
Sorry boss, I see 5.4 2-star written all over him.
 
I think Sampson Evans is going to be able to do what he does better than him. I am not trying to poo poo this guy, I wish him the best.
 
Im just not ready to place the crown on Samson yet. And I'll definitely stick with 5.6 on ragaini, he's proven his ability while actually playing the receiver position for 5 years. Next Ed Hinkel!
 
at 6 ft 190 he kind of reminds me of Riley McCarron. Maybe a better route runner, but has the same kind of build.
 
But going 9-4.....10-3.....11-2 is the norm across college football????? For clueless, fact-less, and non-realistic Iowa fans it is. When expectations meet reality you will enjoy the game a lot more. Want, wish, expect to win every game....not reality when you talk about the whole college football product.
Iowa has lost 5 or more games 13 out of 19 seasons under Kirk Ferentz.
 
Iowa has lost 5 or more games 13 out of 19 seasons under Kirk Ferentz.
What sort of polarizing glasses do you want to look through?
  • The Hawks have been sub 0.500 for only 4 seasons during Kirks entire tenure as head coach. 2 of those seasons where rebuilding years during his first 2 years as the head coach.
  • The Hawks have been sub 0.500 during the regular season for only 3 seasons during his entire tenure. Each one of those years justifiably qualified as significant transition years for the Hawks ('12 marked the shaky start of the Greg Davis era at OC)
  • The Hawks have been 0.500 or higher in conference play for 14 of Kirk's 19 seasons under Ferentz. This also has been during an era when the Big 10, and college football as a whole, has had greater overall parity.
We could look at Kirk's career at Iowa in multiplicity of different ways based on the data we peruse - however, it's hard to really objectively quantify that Kirk is either a stinker or great ... it's largely a scenario of beauty being in the eye of the beholder. I'm willing to bet that down the road, Ferentz gets voted in as an inductee to the college football hall of fame. Thus, there is a silent majority out there who seems to be pretty impressed with the job that he has done at Iowa.
 
Derrick Smith, Cedric Everson, jacody Coleman.


(Every player I've listed committed December, Jan, or feb of the class they signed in and I don't have info from 1999-2004) as of now I have used like the 05 and 06 classes and then the first names off the top of my head.


You also listed Brett Morse. You consider a starting Fullback on an Orange Bowl winning team and consumate team player as contributing to your point? Interesting
 
My memory is not infallible and if you would like to remove him I won't complain. There are many many other names that could be added.
 
Cedric Everson, Zach furlong, diauntae morrow. Again all guys that committed late, that the coaches had a chance to review.
 
Nico

welcome to the Hawkeye family

you will find that hard work is supported by a great coaching
staff and the best fans in the world

have a great time and enjoy your Hawkeye experience
Hope Nico can bring his QB 2019 prospect Taisun Phommachanh. Looks like he is holding out for Miami offer but has offers already from Michigan and Maryland, are we on this kid too?


Watching Nico's Hudl Highlights, Tasium was looking pretty om the money! Watch Tasium's Jr highlights on rival, show his running ability too.
 
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A while back someone on this board mentioned that any team that didn't win at least 9 games a year 4 out of 5 years should fire their coach. It piqued my interest so I went back and looked at the data for the five year period ending with the 2016 season. There were 9 teams in the power 5 that accomplished this, and a total of 11 overall. It's nowhere as easy as people seem to think.
Here is the list.
Clemson 5 times
Florida St 5 times
Oklahoma 4 times
Ohio St 5 times
Nebraska 4 times
Toledo 4 times
Boise St 4 times
Stanford 4 times
Alabama 5 times
LA Tech 4 times
Wisconsin 4 times
Using facts like this just boggle the minds of the Sky is Falling Fan Club!
 
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