Many of us come to this forum to escape from the divisive nonsense but now, like everywhere else, it is unescapable so as with many non political forums, I am done. Goodbye! Its generally been a good fifteen year run but the end is here.
**NEW** Iowa Women's Basketball Recruiting Thread
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Extremely cringe worthy,... please stop.
Just because we have different opinions doesn’t mean we hate Iowa. That’s Minnesota Gophers fans. Calling people communists and telling them to leave is being ignorant of the real issues.
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Good grief. We just had the Hawks play in the National Championship game and we have one of the greatest stars in the game, who just had an EPIC year, and we have people wanting to bring political crap into the recruiting conversation. Look, I do not care what color our players are. I just want them to love the Hawks and want to win a championship. This "shit on the state of Iowa" crap needs to just stop. There are some idiots in this thread. 
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No offense man, but you're the one who injected both into this thread.
Just because you say these attitudes effect recruiting doesn't make it true. I hold the same political opinions you do and I don't buy it. The last two decades have seen throngs of black recruits flock to Storrs, CT and Waco, TX for godssake. They don't care what these state legislatures are doing. Why would they? They are four years and out.
Sorry but you are a effing nutcase and take this shit to off topic. Annoying as hell. You want to feel racist? By all means go ahead. You want to be embarrassed by the State and University and the WBB team? Go ahead....I won't stand with you. Typical of a person like you....all bitching with no apparent suggestion of a solution. Jesus your act and those like you get really effing old and why I tune out what you are saying. I am only responding to say "TAKE THIS CRAP TO THE OFF TOPIC FORUM".
Can't say I blame you....effing annoying as hell.
100% agree.God grief. We just had the Hawks play in the National Championship game and we have one of the greatest stars in the game, who just had an EPIC year, and we have people wanting to bring political crap into the recruiting conversation. Look, I do not care what color our players are. I just want them to love the Hawks and want to win a championship. This "shit on the state of Iowa" crap needs to just stop. There are some idiots in this thread.
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If you don’t think any of this is a problem, please spend some time on WBB twitter. I’m not making this up. This is what people say about Iowa.
It took all of 5 seconds to find these. They’re not the first and won’t be the last tweets like this. These things were said before we played LSU and South Carolina.
The truth is we never would have landed Clark if she wasn’t an Iowa kid. And we almost didn’t, she committed to Notre Dame first. We have work to do if we ever wanna land a recruit of her caliber again. Bury your head in the sand, fine, but don’t be surprised if we can’t get Morrow or Betts.
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Look another article. This one on the record. Really not lies.
“Less than a year after the Supreme Court’s decision, several coaches told the AP that a state’s stance on abortion has come up on the recruiting trail. One coach said a recruit’s parent explicitly said their child wanted to go to school in a state where abortion rights are protected.
When the daughters of Umme Salim-Beasley, the Rutgers women’s gymnastics coach, were making their list of potential college destinations, they crossed off states where abortions were sharply restricted.
Salim-Beasley called her daughters’ thought process “eye-opening” but also emblematic of their generation, one she believes is more politically aware.
“When I was in high school, (politics) was the furthest thing from my mind,” Salim-Beasley said. “That’s not something I had to concern myself with. But I think that kids nowadays, high school kids and college kids, are very aware and informed of what’s going on.”
It’s not my fault that Iowa fans don’t understand how the rest of the world views this state and our team. I’m not telling anyone who to vote for or what policies to support. I’m just someone who is very tuned into WBB across the country and it’s the state of play. I’m sorry if that rankles some red state feathers. It is what it is. I also say this as a response to everyone who’s just screaming “WHY WOULDNT EVERYONE WANT TO COME PLAY AT IOWA” lmao duh
Storrs is in the middle of NYC and Boston lol and also close to the ocean and mountains. New England is brimming with culture and diversity and events that Iowa does not have. Waco is in the middle of Austin and Dallas, two very diverse, young, booming cities (and yes much better weather lol). Again, all Iowa City has to compare is a 4 hour drive to Chicago. Chicago is actually my favorite city in the US but that’s not gonna cut it for some kids.
More importantly, both these towns offer something (offered, for Waco) that Iowa doesn’t — blue blood status and the cash, connections, coverage, and cachet that come with it. Multiple NCs and a shot at one more every year. Kids will make that trade. But Iowa isn’t close to that status.
Furthermore, Baylor did more than just overcome their hurdles, they demolished them. Despite the blandness of Waco (but better weather), they always had plenty of women of color and they were a powerful representation of black excellence to many WBB athletes and fans. Again, we in contrast represent white mediocrity. No, I didnt coin that phrase. That is a phrase people use to describe the Iowa women’s basketball team.
The only things I hate about Iowa are our reputation in the WBB world and our inability to recruit better. I hope both things are changing tho
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Congratulations you found idiots and racists just like you!
It taking 5 seconds for you to find those says a lot more about the content you consume than it does about Iowa.
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Oh right, by searching “Aneesah Morrow Iowa” on twitter, I’m clearly consuming radical leftist propaganda lol c’mon now girl.
You found two butt hurt South Carolina fans, clearly ignorant of Iowa as illustrated in the comments in the thread, where they received pushback for their comments.
And there is very little we can do about the perception of Iowa and any debate about what little we could do is absolutely political in nature and doesn't belong on this board.
And I didn't call it radical leftist propaganda, that's just your strawman. Is that how you conduct all of your arguments, putting words in other people's mouths?
I was about to say, doesn’t it seem like there is black women openly racist against whites women in wbb?
It would be better both for you and all of us if you were not a fan of the Iowa womens bball team. Take you racist, bigoted views out of here and become a fan of some other school. You exemplify what is wrong with the WOKE culture!
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I found two SC fans who are representative of a pretty significant chunk of WBB fans.
Yes. I 100% agree there is very little we can do. Which is why I posted my original message — we need to give our coaches a break and stop saying things like “I’ll be very disappointed if Bluder doesn’t find a big time transfer” or “I just don’t see why they wouldn’t wanna become a Hawkeye!”
The winds are against us. It is what it is.
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Lol I am merely a product of the culture, attitudes, history, community and excellence that are the University of Iowa and Iowa City baby
Go Hawks!!All these show is that you found some tweets from some racists. And yes, blacks can be racists!
Wow, I think we really need to be blaming Brian Ferentz and Chris Doyle for all of this, TBH.
Well now you're just changing the argument. If your new argument is that players of color don't want to attend because we have a virtually all white roster, I can buy that. No one wants to feel like an outsider.Look another article. This one on the record. Really not lies.
“Less than a year after the Supreme Court’s decision, several coaches told the AP that a state’s stance on abortion has come up on the recruiting trail. One coach said a recruit’s parent explicitly said their child wanted to go to school in a state where abortion rights are protected.
When the daughters of Umme Salim-Beasley, the Rutgers women’s gymnastics coach, were making their list of potential college destinations, they crossed off states where abortions were sharply restricted.
Salim-Beasley called her daughters’ thought process “eye-opening” but also emblematic of their generation, one she believes is more politically aware.
“When I was in high school, (politics) was the furthest thing from my mind,” Salim-Beasley said. “That’s not something I had to concern myself with. But I think that kids nowadays, high school kids and college kids, are very aware and informed of what’s going on.”
It’s not my fault that Iowa fans don’t understand how the rest of the world views this state and our team. I’m not telling anyone who to vote for or what policies to support. I’m just someone who is very tuned into WBB across the country and it’s the state of play. I’m sorry if that rankles some red state feathers. It is what it is. I also say this as a response to everyone who’s just screaming “WHY WOULDNT EVERYONE WANT TO COME PLAY AT IOWA” lmao duh
Storrs is in the middle of NYC and Boston lol and also close to the ocean and mountains. New England is brimming with culture and diversity and events that Iowa does not have. Waco is in the middle of Austin and Dallas, two very diverse, young, booming cities (and yes much better weather lol). Again, all Iowa City has to compare is a 4 hour drive to Chicago. Chicago is actually my favorite city in the US but that’s not gonna cut it for some kids.
More importantly, both these towns offer something (offered, for Waco) that Iowa doesn’t — blue blood status and the cash, connections, coverage, and cachet that come with it. Multiple NCs and a shot at one more every year. Kids will make that trade. But Iowa isn’t close to that status.
Furthermore, Baylor did more than just overcome their hurdles, they demolished them. Despite the blandness of Waco (but better weather), they always had plenty of women of color and they were a powerful representation of black excellence to many WBB athletes and fans. Again, we in contrast represent white mediocrity. No, I didnt coin that phrase. That is a phrase people use to describe the Iowa women’s basketball team.
The only things I hate about Iowa are our reputation in the WBB world and our inability to recruit better. I hope both things are changing tho
But that's a far cry from your original argument, which is that that they don't want to come because Iowa has acquired a reputation as being on the far right of the culture war. I don't buy that.
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I’ve said more than once that both of these issues are related and reinforcing each other. Add to that the fact that Iowa is not an exciting destination, it’s a lot to overcome. Especially when these girls can go anywhere they want — literally anywhere and the slightest thing can kick you off their list of contenders.
Go back to the original message (which pissed off all the old geezers on here) and I spell out a number of issues that are working against Iowa in terms of recruiting. People only wanted to talk about race and abortion but there’s a lot more that makes Iowa a tough sell. It’s just a lot to overcome.
My point is not that Iowa has nothing to offer — it certainly has a lot to offer and I’m proud of our program’s culture and accomplishments — but we should still lower our expectations in terms of the portal. And we should not blame our coaches if they’re unable to seal the deal with the two players in the country every single P5 program is trying to land.
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What an absolute shit show this thread has become. The mods here do such an absolutely shitty job, not only on delivering actual news, but also on banning outright racists. All one has to do is go look at the game thread. Hell, those posts from this board are immortalized directly on twitter.
There were also snaps of Lauren Betts arguing with Iowa fans over the whole Angel Reese thing I've heard. We unfortunately do, and have had, an image problem which would make some look elsewhere. The football thing hurt us a lot, as a university, even though it was basically speculative with little to no substantiation. We live in a world where perception matters more than the details within. Iowa is no different than other states but if your perception is only based off of the internet as many kid's nowadays are, this kind of stuff hurts.
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Exactly. Do I think all Iowa fans are racist? No. Did I ever really interact with any while in school? No. I absolutely love being an alum of the University of Iowa and I love Iowa City just as much. I have so much pride in both, and our achievements this season made me exceedingly proud. I spent 6 years at Iowa as a student and staff in CLAS. I loved it and I love going back. I'm sure there are just as many racists in Louisiana as there are Iowa tbh, which is particularly frustrating lol. But our image is what our image is and the WBB universe is fairly small. People talk, word travels.
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I did not see anything on that. If so, that's clearly not great. It's clear we have a problem attracting black athletes in our major sports. What's also clear is we have had some pretty good success in all 3 of those sports, clearly womens basketball just making the national championship game. Now you could argue it took us getting a once in a lifetime player in Caitlin Clark, and you'd probably be right. 3 of the 4 incoming recruits on the mens basketball team are white. I believe all of the womens recruits are white. I do think there's probably something to black athletes wanting to play w/other black athletes. I don't think Iowa City is any more remote than Manhattan, KS, Storrs, CT, Lawrence, KS, etc. Athletes are in school to play sports and go to school and that takes up the majority of their time. I guess it is what it is at this point and not sure how or if that changes. Not sure anyone is really to blame (or deserves any type of blame) about the current situation. Like I said, we're pretty damn solid in all sports.
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We have two recruits for 2023 and one is black lol. Lawrence and Storrs offer blue blood status and a run at a natty every season year. Manhattan KS tho idk lmao.
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Yes she did. Czinano said so on a podcast lol and told the whole story. Some on here thought that was already the case anyway bc a picture of her in ND gear had floated around back in the day.
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T'd Up....Patrick and Connor's podcast. Was a pretty funny story the way Monika told it.
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She had a “oh sh*t was I supposed to say that?” moment lol and texted CC I believe to be like “hey was this not public knowledge or…”
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