Man they will have some options. Cook and Jobo I'd say are the only certain starters. I could see Moss, Wagner, Pemsyl, Garza, and Nunge all competing for the other 3 spots. What's everyone thinking?
Next year starters
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I think practices are going to be all out wars. The good thing is the guys bought into the program extremely well this year, and the emphasis from top to bottom seems to be on winning games and not individual numbers.
I guess you look at the two games when Jok was out for the first clue?
Baer, Wagner, Cook, Bohannon, Moss.
And in our most recent game, Wagner, Cook, Bohannon, Moss were still starting.
Is that how it will play out? I doubt it. But I think it starts there.
I guess you look at the two games when Jok was out for the first clue?
Baer, Wagner, Cook, Bohannon, Moss.
And in our most recent game, Wagner, Cook, Bohannon, Moss were still starting.
Is that how it will play out? I doubt it. But I think it starts there.
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This is like the 40th thread of this topic this season but I haven't replied to the other 39. I got JoBO, Moss, Baer,Cook, and whatever big in Garza or Kriener play the best, if nunge doesn't redshirt like I think will happen, and he plays well then move cook back to C.
I just like Nunge reshirting due to he needs more weight, heard he grew acouple more inches. I think he just needs to focus on working out also want another player with Joe W, believe nunge is uttoff 2.0 and even said he's a player like him and went to Iowa because he liked how Fran played Uttoff.
I'm only sure on JoBo,Moss,Cook. Moss is our only guy that can break down the D and get points, great at driving the ball! Needs work on his jump shot I see so much marble in him. Marble developed a good outside shot his junior and senior years.
Think Baer might like coming off the bench and doesn't really matter when he's getting 30-32 minutes a game.
Also think Moss will be most improved player for next year he becomes a good Defender, and improves his jumper a bit to average 12 a game.
I just like Nunge reshirting due to he needs more weight, heard he grew acouple more inches. I think he just needs to focus on working out also want another player with Joe W, believe nunge is uttoff 2.0 and even said he's a player like him and went to Iowa because he liked how Fran played Uttoff.
I'm only sure on JoBo,Moss,Cook. Moss is our only guy that can break down the D and get points, great at driving the ball! Needs work on his jump shot I see so much marble in him. Marble developed a good outside shot his junior and senior years.
Think Baer might like coming off the bench and doesn't really matter when he's getting 30-32 minutes a game.
Also think Moss will be most improved player for next year he becomes a good Defender, and improves his jumper a bit to average 12 a game.
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Easy, the lineup that clicked when Jok was out; Jbo, Moss, Baer, Wagner, and Cook. Pemsyl wiil be the 6th man, and the rest of the minutes are up for grabs. Baer and Wagner bring a defensive intensity to our lineup when they play together. The ball moved very well when Jok was out with the above lineup.
Would love to watch practice the next acouple seasons with all this talent. Once Uhl graduates we might be a team like Wisconsin but better every guy with a scholarship can play and contribute unless Dailey is a bad player which I've heard he isn't. We haven't been failing on recruits as much lately. Next year Fran will have an even bigger issue with playing time(which is a good thing) but he needs to figure out his best 10, and rarely go 11.
I'm more excited about the basketball team next year than the football team, I can't believe I'm saying that! Just enjoy watching these guys improve and play well as a team
Think we got 3 double figure scorers next year in cook 16-7.5 rebounds, like how he rebounded to end the season. Moss averages 12.5 points, Defense becomes good, outside shot improves.
JoBo 12.5 points 5.5 assists averages 3.3 threes a game. 41 percent shooting percentage improves a bit. Still not a driving PG.
Pemsl around the same numbers 9/5.2 rebounds. Baer improves a tiny bit in every area 9.2 points,6rebounds, 3 assists , 1.8 stls,1.6 BLKs a game. 40 percent from 3.
if Dailey didn't play this year I don't see much playing time going forward unless he has a terrific offseason, and even then IDK
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I'm agreeing with you unless Garza who is a bigger guy out plays kriener in practice Garza is a 4 star and a big guy, also like the fact he isn't skinny.Also if Baer prefers coming off the bench then let him but if he wants to start then he starts next year.
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I'd go with Jbo, Moss, Baer, Cook, and Kreiner. Since I'm starting Baer,(I think next year he's our best option at three), I'd want Cordell to bring the fire with the stormtroopers off the bench. I just don't see Wagner starting. Great kid, and teammate, fighter, hustles, does the dirty work. Not a skilled basketball player. I think Frans recruited to the point now where he's recruiting over players, (which is what he should be doing). Without solid improvement before next season, its going to be hard for players like Uhl, and Wagner to log many minutes.
Cook, Bohannon, Pemsl, Moss and Baer starting out. These are our most effective players. However-- after the season is underway, Fran may choose to bring Pemsl and Baer off the bench again- to save energy and fouls. So, two other guys could "start." With Garza, McCaffery and Nunge coming in-- all of whom could be in the top rotation if they make progress-- Fran may have to make some tough decisions on playing time. I think Williams will play, Wagner will have a similar role as this year, and Kriener will get some minutes. Uhl has about 8 months to work on getting to the basket, or he won't get much time. Dailey is an unknown factor. I think Fran will again play about ten or eleven players each game to keep everyone fresh, make us harder for the opposition to prepare for, and because-even with the three kids coming in- we are still not the most athletic team in the world.
I think Dailey and Kreiner are the wild cards. If they progress it could certainly have a major impact on the rotations.
1) JBo, Connor Mc, Williams
2) Moss, Ellingson, Dailey
3) Baer, Uhl, Dailey/Moss
4) Cook, Pemsl, Wagner, Nunge
5) Kriener/Garza, Nunge
2) Moss, Ellingson, Dailey
3) Baer, Uhl, Dailey/Moss
4) Cook, Pemsl, Wagner, Nunge
5) Kriener/Garza, Nunge
Mccaffery is gonna play point? And if so then Williams can back up Baer at the 3 and Dailey the 2. Don't think Moss will play much 3
Yes I believe that is accurate but he's not afraid to shoot either.
Assuming no transfers ...
Early season:
JoBo, McCaff
Moss, Ellingson
Baer, Williams, Dailey,
Wagner, Pemsl, Uhl, Nunge
Cook, Kreiner, Garza
Late season:
JoBo, McCaff
Moss, Ellingson
Baer, Williams, Dailey
Cook, Pemsl, Nunge, Uhl
Garza, Kriener, Wagner
Early season:
JoBo, McCaff
Moss, Ellingson
Baer, Williams, Dailey,
Wagner, Pemsl, Uhl, Nunge
Cook, Kreiner, Garza
Late season:
JoBo, McCaff
Moss, Ellingson
Baer, Williams, Dailey
Cook, Pemsl, Nunge, Uhl
Garza, Kriener, Wagner
and this is what makes him valuable...
excellent passer with size & in AAU pushes the ball upcourt very nicely...add the fact he has a coaches mentality (oh thats right he lives in the same house with one...),,,some like to call it BB IQ.
Why do so many people spell PEMSL- PEMSYL?
My lineup- Cook, Garza, Moss, Connor Mc and J Bo.
U think Garza from day one? I think he will finally get the starting nod around when conference play is starting
So you dont see the enormous amount of minutes that were taken by Jok as having any effect on playing time next year?
That makes sense.
The guys that got most of the minutes this year will be the starters to begin next season.
Kreiner will factor in significantly more next season and could start sooner than later.
Williams is a wild card. Will he be healthy, will he change positions?
Daily and the freshman are unknowns and probably wont factor in allot.
Kreiner will factor in significantly more next season and could start sooner than later.
Williams is a wild card. Will he be healthy, will he change positions?
Daily and the freshman are unknowns and probably wont factor in allot.
Maybe they go to other people maybe he gets them, we'll see is basically what I was saying, I just said it wrong
Hopefully changes positions especially if Mccaffery is the first one off the bench at PG. Not counting on it, just saying it could happen. Anyone think that he could start at the 3 if he does switch, with Baer coming off the bench as usual?
My point was its a totally different situation next year.
There was no minutes to be had at the 2/3 because of Jok and Baer.
Moss couldnt get in half the time and he proved to be a good player.
I think he has shown he doesn't have the anticipation to play the point. He is always a split second late with his passes and just doesn't see plays develop until it's too late. I do believe he could be a great SG though. When he's attacking he is effective and his defense and rebounding will be good at any position.
I look forward to our defense next year not having to watch Jok. Even when Williams was God awful offensively he still found a way to impact the game defensively and that's pretty hard to do with the 3-5 minute stretches he was playing.
I would have completely agreed with you a month ago, and I agree hes not a real pg, but he did make a few nice passes twoards the end of the year.
He made one really nice no look to Wagner that should have been a dunk but was bobbled.
Im still not sure what hes really capable of.
I think his main issue at the 1 is that he isnt good enough with the handle to be comfortable against shorter players that get in his space. I think that effects his passing.
He needs to learn how to keep his body in between the smaller players and the ball and back them down.
I agree, part off not seeing the play develop is that he is too worried about turning it over because his ball handling isn't great. I thought he definitely played better toward the end of the year but IMO the offense still came to a halt when he was in. The ball just seems to get stuck in his hands and we don't move the ball nearly as well when he's in the game.
No idea. Lazy?
I don't have many pet peeves, but misspelling the name of a player for one's team is one of them. If one is a fan, learn how to spell Gesell, Pemsl, Olaseni and the like. Or google and check. It's not that hard.
I say next years starters will be:
Williams
Bohannon
Moss
Cook
Wagner
Baer will be first off the bench. Connor McCaffery will be getting the minutes that Williams got this year. Joks minutes will be absorbed by a combination of extended minutes for Baer, Ellingson, and Uhl, along with the new addition of Connor. I am still not sure if Garza is a better option than Kriner or Pemsl, but he will have his opportunity. Nunge has a lot of competition in front of him so he may be a really good redshirt candidate. We will have a really deep team again next year. I think Moss is the x-factor. Williams strength is not 3 point shooting so it will be up to Bohannon and Moss to stretch the defense with there 3 point shooting.
Williams
Bohannon
Moss
Cook
Wagner
Baer will be first off the bench. Connor McCaffery will be getting the minutes that Williams got this year. Joks minutes will be absorbed by a combination of extended minutes for Baer, Ellingson, and Uhl, along with the new addition of Connor. I am still not sure if Garza is a better option than Kriner or Pemsl, but he will have his opportunity. Nunge has a lot of competition in front of him so he may be a really good redshirt candidate. We will have a really deep team again next year. I think Moss is the x-factor. Williams strength is not 3 point shooting so it will be up to Bohannon and Moss to stretch the defense with there 3 point shooting.
If Williams is a starter then we are done. He can't shoot from the field or the line and is overwhelmed most of the with the ball in his hands. I think he is a candidate to move on. Really don't see what Wagner will bring that Pemsl or Garza can't bring better. We need Garza's size bad. Agree on JBo, Moss, and Cook.
Yea, a big 6-11 235 body with long arms to man the paint, of course. He is a 4 star from big time competition. We desperately need someone to guard the rim like AW did last couple years.
I'd agree, I'll be shocked if Wagner is starting next year. If he develops that much, Pleasantly shocked, but I doubt it. His game is basically the same as when he first arrived. He's not going to get minutes at the 4 or 5 next year with our depth. Don't see him playing the 3, so I just don't see it except for spot minutes.
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