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Their leading WR from last year (and favorite target of their QB, Childers) is reportedly suspended for 2 games for breaking team rules. Furthermore, their top TE, Brinkman is dinged and out for the game too. Interestingly, Brinkman is an Iowa native ... and likely would have brought a little extra "juice" to the match-up. Another TE, Crawford, suffered an ACL injury earlier ... so he is out too.

Thus, the primary WRs that NIU returns are DJ Brown and Wesley (who is listed as a back-up to Brown).
 
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If you look at their starters in the secondary ... a lot of upperclassmen. They might have more experience there than I originally anticipated. Also, one of their starting safeties, Williams was a hotshot recruit who initially went to Notre Dame. Also, one of their starting corners is none other than Jalen Embry ... a former Hawkeye!

Their D should provide the Hawk O one heck of a stout test.

The Huskies return a really promising middle linebacker, Pugh, who was injured last year in their game against San Diego State. He's back ... and it sounds like he's a high-quality player. Their other LBs are on the "new" side though ... not unlike our own.
 
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I don't see NIU being able to contain Fant and Hockenson in the passing game. That has got to hurt their offense losing a receiver and TE. An offense that wasn't very good to begin with.
 
Both defenses should be decent... NIU's offense doesn't look very scary, especially given extra guys out. If Iowa's O can move the ball and score some points... like more than 20, should be fine. If Iowa can't score... might be a nail-biter. I just don't see NIU scoring much though... and if they do, its going to be a long year.
 
One would think that even though our LB's are 'new', if the d-line does what they're supposed to/capable of, any of us could suit up at LB and make tackles (yes, I realize there's more to it than that, but work with me).
 
I think the thing about the LBs is that while they haven't started, Jones and Welch are both Juniors and Niemann is a 3rd year Soph. So they have plenty of time in t he program and have seen spot duty and lots of special teams action.
When Jewell and Bower got their first starts, they were redshirt Freshman.
 
I think the thing about the LBs is that while they haven't started, Jones and Welch are both Juniors and Niemann is a 3rd year Soph. So they have plenty of time in t he program and have seen spot duty and lots of special teams action.
When Jewell and Bower got their first starts, they were redshirt Freshman.
Thats my take as well David. People want to point to the two other times under KF where we replaced all three starting LB's at one time. Both other times we ended up starting either true frosh or RSF in the Morris and Jewell groups. All of these guys are at least three years into the system, and have played. No doubt there will be some learning curve, especially for Jones making the defense call, but I won't be expecting the same kind of dropoff, and would think they'll progress quickly with each quarter played.
 
I think the thing about the LBs is that while they haven't started, Jones and Welch are both Juniors and Niemann is a 3rd year Soph. So they have plenty of time in t he program and have seen spot duty and lots of special teams action.
When Jewell and Bower got their first starts, they were redshirt Freshman.
What's more, in '14, Bower, Jewell, and Spearman were each just in their 2nd year on campus. Even though Spearman had the most prior experience ... he was mainly just playing a rush-end in our raider package. Thus, there was really little reading and reacting that he had to do. Thus, when it came to intricacies of executing all the requisite reading and reacting ... Spearman was overwhelmed.

While Coach Reid was a terrific coach, I think that he threw too much at the young LBs that season. Rather than simplifying things so that the guys could play fast ... he deluged them with really thick booklets detailing the game-plan. Consequently, our LBs played pretty tentatively that season ... and it was one of our worse defensive efforts in a while. The next season, Reid learned his lesson ... and there was much more emphasis on playing fast and having the guys know that it was okay to make mistakes (if you're going to make a mistake - you may as well be decisive about it).

When you look at the set-up for Iowa's LBs in '18 ... each of the projected starters have been on campus for 3 years. Furthermore, they've had the same position coach for the entire period. Wallace is a guy who falls under the Norm Parker school of thought ... he'd much rather try to keep things simple so that the guys can play fast. That's a particularly nice philosophy to have when breaking in new LB starters. On top of all that ... back in '14, the talent level within the LB room was somewhat limited ... and that limited the competition. In contrast, in '18, while the guys are really inexperienced in terms of live positional reps ... there is quite a bit of talent in the room. Hopefully that competition ends up producing some great results!
 
Their defense should be a good test for the offense to work against. They now have nothing on offense. They are going to start a non threat at TE and 2 freshmen at WR. I see pur defense handing the ball to the offense in good position ALOT.
 
My question is, is the NIU QB mobile?

I get the scares if that is true.

And yes, this is my first post in many moons.
 
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How is their OL? Either way, this Iowa D-line is salty. I wouldn't want to be game planning against that line, which is also one that has the depth to not tire for all four quarters. LB play will be key for both teams. Could be another one decided by ST play and who turns the ball over more.
 
NIU has a veteran OL and Mobile QB , not much else on O unless those Freshman WRs come out and go all Randy Moss out of nowhere , If Iowa can run the ball just adequately and protect Stanley Iowa should be ok. That said its the first game and anything can happen .
 
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How is their OL? Either way, this Iowa D-line is salty. I wouldn't want to be game planning against that line, which is also one that has the depth to not tire for all four quarters. LB play will be key for both teams. Could be another one decided by ST play and who turns the ball over more.
NIU's LT could be a pretty high draft pick. They have experience at something like 4 of the 5 OL spots too.
 
My question is, is the NIU QB mobile?

I get the scares if that is true.

And yes, this is my first post in many moons.
Childers started in 9 games - and through the season, he rushed for 473 yards and 5 TDs. It's also important to keep in mind that he was just a RS FR last season.
 
If we are that worried about NIU it’s going to be a long big ten season
I think that part of what concerns folks is that ...
  • Iowa is notorious for starting slow at the beginning of seasons
  • Iowa lost to NDSU just 2 years ago
  • NIU has a pretty elite DE ... and he's facing off against a pretty inexperienced OT
  • Iowa has 4 linemen, including 2 projecting starting OTs, out for the game. Given that Iowa is known for winning games by their line play ... the circumstances surrounding the opener aren't exactly auspicious.
 
I think that part of what concerns folks is that ...
  • Iowa is notorious for starting slow at the beginning of seasons
  • Iowa lost to NDSU just 2 years ago
  • NIU has a pretty elite DE ... and he's facing off against a pretty inexperienced OT
  • Iowa has 4 linemen, including 2 projecting starting OTs, out for the game. Given that Iowa is known for winning games by their line play ... the circumstances surrounding the opener aren't exactly auspicious.

All fair points. I’m was being a bit sarcastic as I predicted them to lose Saturday.
 
If we are that worried about NIU it’s going to be a long big ten season
This is the same scenario as every first game. Like most seasons, if Iowa plays at least fairly well, they'll win fairly easily. ex: Wyoming and Illinois State. If they turn the ball over or play poorly, like NDSU, or the last time we played NIU, then it will be a dog fight.
 
NIU is a solid team and anyone discrediting them doesn't understand Iowa football, history, and the quality of talent these days spread across these "lesser" conferences.
 
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A few other interesting observations:
  • I'd claim that Iowa really ought to have a good feel for NIU heading into the game. For one thing - the last time the Hawks played NIU, Carey was still their coach. Thus, this is a prep, that Iowa's top coaches on O and D have done before.
  • The Hawks perhaps have an even better feel for NIU's tendencies - because both Polasek and Copeland were former NIU assistant coaches.
  • The last two times Carey's NIU squad faced Iowa, the Hawks used a different offensive system. What's more, the offensive system that Iowa used ... which emphasized spreading the field horizontally ... was something that NIU was already very familiar with against fellow MAC foes. Iowa's O now is more likely to put a lot of pressure on NIU's LBs and Ss with passes between the hashes. It also likely goes without saying that under Brian, Iowa now utilizes its TEs much better than they were utilized under Davis.
  • Anyhow, part of the above point is that while Iowa knows NIU ... I doubt NIU knows Iowa nearly as well!
 
We are going to pimp slap them and send their big talking DE back to his cornfield campus with his tail between his legs.
 
I did a little digging on the NIU roster ... they'll be having 3 returning starters on the DL from last year (and a 4th who is currently injured). Interestingly, only 2 of the 3 are listed as starters. What's more, NIU has long been a team that rotates guys on their DL ... so they have pretty good depth on the DL. They have back-up DEs who are pretty experienced and productive.

As I look at the personnel, at this juncture, I'd say that NIU likely owns the match-up advantage as it relates to their DL versus our OL.

I'll be very curious to see how the match-up works out - it may end up playing a significant outcome in the game!
 
If you look at their starters in the secondary ... a lot of upperclassmen. They might have more experience there than I originally anticipated. Also, one of their starting safeties, Williams was a hotshot recruit who initially went to Notre Dame. Also, one of their starting corners is none other than Jalen Embry ... a former Hawkeye!

I didn't see it mentioned in the thread that one of their DB's is a former Hawkeye, Jalen Embry.
It was mentioned .... but it's still a fine observation!
 
What's more, in '14, Bower, Jewell, and Spearman were each just in their 2nd year on campus. Even though Spearman had the most prior experience ... he was mainly just playing a rush-end in our raider package. Thus, there was really little reading and reacting that he had to do. Thus, when it came to intricacies of executing all the requisite reading and reacting ... Spearman was overwhelmed.

While Coach Reid was a terrific coach, I think that he threw too much at the young LBs that season. Rather than simplifying things so that the guys could play fast ... he deluged them with really thick booklets detailing the game-plan. Consequently, our LBs played pretty tentatively that season ... and it was one of our worse defensive efforts in a while. The next season, Reid learned his lesson ... and there was much more emphasis on playing fast and having the guys know that it was okay to make mistakes (if you're going to make a mistake - you may as well be decisive about it).

When you look at the set-up for Iowa's LBs in '18 ... each of the projected starters have been on campus for 3 years. Furthermore, they've had the same position coach for the entire period. Wallace is a guy who falls under the Norm Parker school of thought ... he'd much rather try to keep things simple so that the guys can play fast. That's a particularly nice philosophy to have when breaking in new LB starters. On top of all that ... back in '14, the talent level within the LB room was somewhat limited ... and that limited the competition. In contrast, in '18, while the guys are really inexperienced in terms of live positional reps ... there is quite a bit of talent in the room. Hopefully that competition ends up producing some great results!
I agree with everything you said besides your view point of Coach Reid being too complex for young LB's. Reid's approach as a LB coach was about as simple as it gets, he was one of the best coaches I have ever seen at doing this. Wallace is good at this as well, but compared to Reid it is much more complex. I think the older you get the more you are able to simplify actually. When I first started coaching that's what I did and then I made thing more complex (too complex IMO) for a little while because I was learning new stuff and was excited to implement. My players were not playing as fast as I would like, reflected and went back to simplifying things :)
 
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I agree with everything you said besides your view point of Coach Reid being too complex for young LB's. Reid's approach as a LB coach was about as simple as it gets, he was one of the best coaches I have ever seen at doing this. Wallace is good at this as well, but compared to Reid it is much more complex. I think the older you get the more you are able to simplify actually. When I first started coaching that's what I did and then I made thing more complex (too complex IMO) for a little while because I was learning new stuff and was excited to implement. My players were not playing as fast as I would like, reflected and went back to simplifying things :)
I agree that Reid likely was able to help the player make their reads more simply. However, the primary "complexity" of which I speak deals the huge pamphlets that Coach Reid would supply the LBs. For some players, that could come across as a bit of an information overload.

I agree that Coach Reid was a phenomenal LB coach ... and it will take Wallace a while to scratch the surface (in order to even be comparable).

I'm willing to bet that you're correct as it relates to Reid's ability to simplify the reads for the LBs. That was also one of the "gifts" that Norm had ... he'd be able to really simplify things for his ILBs too. Of course, while Coach Wilson wasn't a shadow of the coach that Norm was .... he still helped us to develop some decent LEO LBs too.

While Wallace isn't Norm or Jim ... he'll improve more and more as he gains more experience (and that will enable him to better simplify things for his guys).
 
I agree that Reid likely was able to help the player make their reads more simply. However, the primary "complexity" of which I speak deals the huge pamphlets that Coach Reid would supply the LBs. For some players, that could come across as a bit of an information overload.

I agree that Coach Reid was a phenomenal LB coach ... and it will take Wallace a while to scratch the surface (in order to even be comparable).

I'm willing to bet that you're correct as it relates to Reid's ability to simplify the reads for the LBs. That was also one of the "gifts" that Norm had ... he'd be able to really simplify things for his ILBs too. Of course, while Coach Wilson wasn't a shadow of the coach that Norm was .... he still helped us to develop some decent LEO LBs too.

While Wallace isn't Norm or Jim ... he'll improve more and more as he gains more experience (and that will enable him to better simplify things for his guys).
I agree, Wallace is a great coach and will continue to get better- because that is just the way he is. However, the packet the LB's get are pretty much the same- at least it was last year. That could be because it was 3 seniors though.
 
I agree, Wallace is a great coach and will continue to get better- because that is just the way he is. However, the packet the LB's get are pretty much the same- at least it was last year. That could be because it was 3 seniors though.
Were you privy to the contrast between them going from '13 and '14 ... and how those compare to the ones Wallace distributed in '16?
 
NIU OTs vs, Iowa DEs should be interesting match-ups.

Senior LT Max Scharping vs. Senior DE Parker Hesse/Soph.AJ Epenesa.. Scharping is being promoted as a possible AA and low round NFL prospect. Hesse is in for a battle. Can't wait to see what happens when AJ faces Scharping on pass downs.

Junior RT Jordan Steckler vs. Junior DE Anthony Nelson. Steckler is another all-conference performer anchoring the other side. Nelson led the Hawks in QB sacks last year and is primed to really explode this season IMO. I think Nelson could be a difference maker this game.
 
Here comes the Kooooool-Aid.

Brian Ferentz is actively auditioning for his dad’s job and the first game of his first season (2012) on his dad’s staff was a loss at Kinnick to Northern Illinois after Jake Rudock threw a top 10 worst in Iowa history pass late in the 4th. As an Iowa fan, I have to believe Brian remembers that day and intends to make them pay tomorrow.

If it ends sadly... God helps us all.
 
Who do we favor:
1. Stanley or NIU QB
2. Ia. running backs or NIU
3. Ia. present OL or NIU
4. Ia. TE or NIU
5. Ia. Rec. or NIU
Most of us homers would say at least 3 out 5 goes to Iowa

1. Ia. D line or NIU
2. Ia. D ends or NIU ( They have one very good one and Ia. has 3)
3. Ia LB or NIU
4. Ia DB or NIU
Again probably most of us choose Ia. at least 3 out of 5

With the home field advantage 95% of normal fans would put their hard earned cash on Iowa. I'm sure Mich. State thought the same thing tonight..
So nothing is in the bag??? Go Hawks
 
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