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Interesting results at 133, 141, 165, 174, 184.

Finals:
125: #4 Megaludis (PSU) MD Martinez (VA) 16-4
133: Cortez (PSU) dec #10 Conaway (PSU) 5-4
141: Ke-Shawn Hayes (tOSU) MD Kolodzik (Princ) 10-2 (Hayes over #7 Gulibon by MFF in semis)
149: #1 Retheford (PSU) dec Theobold (Rut) 8-1 (Retheford Tf'd Maruca ASU in QFs; Theobold beat Villareal ASU in semis)
157: #3 Nolf (PSU) WBF Longo (Leh)
165: Morelli (PSU) dec #17 Rasheed (PSU) 3-2 (Morelli is unheralded transfer from Pitt; he beat Hammond PSU in semis 12-7)
174: #8 Nickal (PSU) dec Martin (tOSU) 4-3
184: #9 Thomas (Penn) MFF Machiavello (NCSU); (Machiavello is NCSU's back-up, beat #13 McCutcheon PSU 6-4 in QFs)
197: #1 McIntosh MD Caywood (Army) 15-6
285: Haines (tOSU) MFF Peck (MD)
 
Apparently McCutcheon was injured in his loss, but was able to finish the match, barely. Martin beat PSU's (Lehigh xfer) Brian Brill I believe 7-6 in semis. I wonder how tempted Ryan is ...
 
Interesting:

1. Ranked PSU 133-pounder loses to the back-up -- surprising to me, although familiarity does close the gap between teammates sometimes.
2. Any word on Gulibon's injury? Hopefully not severe. I assume they just didn't want to risk further injury and took the MFF but that he'll be back this season.
3. Hayes looking good for a youngster. Kolodzik, too, is young, but he's no slouch, and Hayes apparently dominated.
4. Impressive win for Nolf. Sure seems to be a high AA threat.
5. PSU not lighting the world on fire at 165. Then, again, neither are we.
6. Close win for Nickal over an unranked but still tough youngster.
7. PSU's ranked 184 loses to NCSU's back-up?

A few relative surprises in there, from my perspective, at least.
 
WWDMHawkeye said:
Interesting:

1. Ranked PSU 133-pounder loses to the back-up -- surprising to me, although familiarity does close the gap between teammates sometimes.
2. Any word on Gulibon's injury? Hopefully not severe. I assume they just didn't want to risk further injury and took the MFF but that he'll be back this season.
3. Hayes looking good for a youngster. Kolodzik, too, is young, but he's no slouch, and Hayes apparently dominated.
4. Impressive win for Nolf. Sure seems to be a high AA threat.
5. PSU not lighting the world on fire at 165. Then, again, neither are we.
6. Close win for Nickal over an unranked but still tough youngster.
7. PSU's ranked 184 loses to NCSU's back-up?

A few relative surprises in there, from my perspective, at least.
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WWDM. Mccutcheon incurred a lower back injury early in the 2nd period thst significantly impacted the match. Took a very long injury TO. PSU isn't worried about the outcome of the match but rather the severity of the injury and will it linger.
 
I'm not sure if PSU needs much out of McCutcheon to win a national title. 184 is absolutely loaded and I don't think he scores many points even if he's healthy. Mega, Gulibon, Zain, Nolf, Nickal, and Morgan Mac all look to be high AA contenders here. With Conaway, Rasheed and McCutcheon possibly adding points. Iowa is going to need to be at our very best to best there potential scoring output.
 
WWDMHawkeye said:
Interesting:

1. Ranked PSU 133-pounder loses to the back-up -- surprising to me, although familiarity does close the gap between teammates sometimes.
2. Any word on Gulibon's injury? Hopefully not severe. I assume they just didn't want to risk further injury and took the MFF but that he'll be back this season.
3. Hayes looking good for a youngster. Kolodzik, too, is young, but he's no slouch, and Hayes apparently dominated.
4. Impressive win for Nolf. Sure seems to be a high AA threat.
5. PSU not lighting the world on fire at 165. Then, again, neither are we.
6. Close win for Nickal over an unranked but still tough youngster.
7. PSU's ranked 184 loses to NCSU's back-up?

A few relative surprises in there, from my perspective, at least.
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Even though Cortez is not the starter, I would've refer to him as the backup or closing a gap because of familiarity. He may be the starter now if the B1G didn't make him ineligible for a year.

I don't knock him for it but it looks like Kolodzik traded wrestling development for a Princeton education. I think he handled Hayes their senior year of high school.
 
PSU is probably the favorite. But this team is far from a lock. They could, without any wishful thinking, end up with only 5 AAs. 125, 149, 157, 174, 197. They all could be top 3 but we can match or top that for sure.
 
1.Is tOSU tempted on shirts? esp Martin?
2.Cortez is a transfer from Illinois, sitting out a year. (Mega + Conaway ==> Suriano + Cortez)
3.Cael was quoted at the NLO as saying neither McCutcheon or Gulibon's injury were bad. McCutcheon's injury is more worrisome.
4.At 165 all 4 guys in the semis were Penn Staters. But no one is dominant. Morelli may become the starter.
5.Retherford and Nolf, are they the new DT and ER?

Here is a PA local article. Lots of Cael quotes. Also very interesting perspective in that they list the PA high schools of many of the teams' members.
 
Needanap said:
WWDM. Mccutcheon incurred a lower back injury early in the 2nd period thst significantly impacted the match. Took a very long injury TO. PSU isn't worried about the outcome of the match but rather the severity of the injury and will it linger.
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Thanks for the info, Need. Sure looked like a weird outcome "on paper". Makes more sense now. I hope McCutcheon makes a full recovery.
 
PapaBearSLIM said:
Even though Cortez is not the starter, I would've refer to him as the backup or closing a gap because of familiarity. He may be the starter now if the B1G didn't make him ineligible for a year.

I don't knock him for it but it looks like Kolodzik traded wrestling development for a Princeton education. I think he handled Hayes their senior year of high school.
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Thanks for the reminder about Cortez, Papa. I'd spaced that off. That score does seem to make sense.
 
PapaBearSLIM said:
Even though Cortez is not the starter, I would've refer to him as the backup or closing a gap because of familiarity. He may be the starter now if the B1G didn't make him ineligible for a year.

I don't knock him for it but it looks like Kolodzik traded wrestling development for a Princeton education. I think he handled Hayes their senior year of high school.
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There are a lot of Ivy wrestlers who are highly developed. Todd Preston from Harvard, ranked #13 beat Kolodzik in the closing seconds of their match 5-3 this year as well. Kolodzik wrestling partner Jordan Laster is ranked #17 on Intermat. His colligate development isn't on the same level as the B10 but Hayes development wasn't on the same level as Blair's.

Kolodzik handled (ur word PapaBearSLIM) Hayes at WNO 5-1 and Hayes handled Kolodzik at the NLO 10-2.
 
It looked like Gullibon hurt his ankle. He finished the match but was having trouble walking.

The Martin/Nickal match was really chippy. Martin was way more interested in clubbing him in the head than in taking shots. Martin looks like a pretty serious AA candidate & I'll be surprised if tOSU doesn't pull his shirt.

Spencer Lee was in the house.
 
WWDMHawkeye said:
Thanks for the info, Need. Sure looked like a weird outcome "on paper". Makes more sense now. I hope McCutcheon makes a full recovery.
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McCutcheon has been great this year, so there was clearly something wrong. For example he destroyed Zavatsky from VaTech who had a good CKLV. I think he took a big step forward, so the injury sucks for us. People forget he had the legendary Kenny Courts dead to rights last year in the Rd of 12 and lost a late lead, so even small gains could juice our point total from him.

Really happy to see Cortez' results. Sounds like him and Jordan are neck and neck with very different styles so he is the perfeft practice partner for him.
 
Kenny Courts is about dead to rights in every match he wrestles. McC has had some good wins but just as many bad losses. This loss injured or not does not sunrise me at all.
 
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TarpHawk said:
Interesting results at 133, 141, 165, 174, 184.

Finals:
125: #4 Megaludis (PSU) MD Martinez (VA) 16-4
133: Cortez (PSU) dec #10 Conaway (PSU) 5-4
141: Ke-Shawn Hayes (tOSU) MD Kolodzik (Princ) 10-2 (Hayes over #7 Gulibon by MFF in semis)
149: #1 Retheford (PSU) dec Theobold (Rut) 8-1 (Retheford Tf'd Maruca ASU in QFs; Theobold beat Villareal ASU in semis)
157: #3 Nolf (PSU) WBF Longo (Leh)
165: Morelli (PSU) dec #17 Rasheed (PSU) 3-2 (Morelli is unheralded transfer from Pitt; he beat Hammond PSU in semis 12-7)
174: #8 Nickal (PSU) dec Martin (tOSU) 4-3
184: #9 Thomas (Penn) MFF Machiavello (NCSU); (Machiavello is NCSU's back-up, beat #13 McCutcheon PSU 6-4 in QFs)
197: #1 McIntosh MD Caywood (Army) 15-6
285: Haines (tOSU) MFF Peck (MD)
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While a lot of people on national boards are penciling in every recent ASU recruit as a blue chip, Maruca obviously needs some seasoning.
 
Chickenman Testa said:
While a lot of people on national boards are penciling in every recent ASU recruit as a blue chip, Maruca obviously needs some seasoning.
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He never lit the scoreboard up in high school. He won a lot of 3-2 type of matches against good competition. I was never sold on him having big time success at the D1 level, but we'll see.
 
PapaBearSLIM said:
Even though Cortez is not the starter, I would've refer to him as the backup or closing a gap because of familiarity. He may be the starter now if the B1G didn't make him ineligible for a year.

I don't knock him for it but it looks like Kolodzik traded wrestling development for a Princeton education. I think he handled Hayes their senior year of high school.
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College and high school are different some guys can develop better then others I know Metcalf had a loss or 2 to Schlatter (I believe they split matches but not sure) and Schlatter seemed to regress in college (1,3,7,DNP) while Metcalf went on to have a great career
 
NYWRESTLER94 said:
College and high school are different some guys can develop better then others I know Metcalf had a loss or 2 to Schlatter (I believe they split matches but not sure) and Schlatter seemed to regress in college (1,3,7,DNP) while Metcalf went on to have a great career
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To be fair to Schlatter, his regression was due to injury, not lack of development. Overall point taken though.
 
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NYWRESTLER94 said:
College and high school are different some guys can develop better then others I know Metcalf had a loss or 2 to Schlatter (I believe they split matches but not sure) and Schlatter seemed to regress in college (1,3,7,DNP) while Metcalf went on to have a great career
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I'm aware of his injury his senior year that doesn't really explain going from 1st 3rd to 7th though I know you're a gopher fan I was just trying to make a point
 
DonHawkeye said:
I am sure the Grapple on the Gridiron couldn't hold a candle to the NLWC open.
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The thing Penn State homers fail to comprehend is that making a 2 hour trip to watch Penn State doesn't take much planning and can be done on a whim without any real investment. Making a 10 hour trip to visit Iowa is something that you're not going to do over and over again unless you have serious interest in the school. He could very well end up at Penn State, but if they don't think Iowa has a chance they are delusional.
 
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There are a lot of Ivy wrestlers who are highly developed. Todd Preston from Harvard, ranked #13 beat Kolodzik in the closing seconds of their match 5-3 this year as well. Kolodzik wrestling partner Jordan Laster is ranked #17 on Intermat. His colligate development isn't on the same level as the B10 but Hayes development wasn't on the same level as Blair's.

Kolodzik handled (ur word PapaBearSLIM) Hayes at WNO 5-1 and Hayes handled Kolodzik at the NLO 10-2.
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No kidding, there's a whole team of them in Ithaca, NY.
 
I wonder if Nico ends up not winning a title if he will leave with a bad taste in his mouth about PSU.

I really only say this because Jeff Byers "The voice of PSU wrestling" kinda made it seem like Nico would think of his career as a failure if he doesn't win a title in a recent "On The Mat" podcast.

Seems like even Cael will have a hard time selling how much FUN Nico had at PSU.
 
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If I remember correctly Schlatter was injured most of his career except for his freshman year. It wasn't so much that he regressed, but he was never healthy. There was a lot of that going around at Minny around then. I do not know what they are doing, but they seem to have the least healthy team at the national tourney year after year.

Also, even in his international career, he has been injury ridden.

If we ask Mike Mena or Bart Chelsavig(sp) or Scott Trizzino or any of the other greats that have left Iowa without a tittle, do you think they would have a bad taste in their mouth. I would say yes, but they would not blame Iowa. I am guessing the same would be true for Megaludis if he doesn't get a title.
 
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I'm aware of his injury his senior year that doesn't really explain going from 1st 3rd to 7th though I know you're a gopher fan I was just trying to make a point
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Your point, however, is mistaken. Schlatter red shirted after his junior year 7th place: "It was a pretty rough year, "he says of his junior season. "I missed six weeks because of the hamstring and I couldn't really focus on my training because of the injury. Then you add in a knee sprain and a couple of ankle sprains and it was all weighing on me mentally. I just needed the time off. So far it has worked out pretty well and I'm at 100 percent now." He then made the freestyle team and wrestled at world's. http://www.wrestlingpod.com/wrestling-news/w3048/bigten-profile-on-dustin-schlatter/
 
lookleft goright said:
If I remember correctly Schlatter was injured most of his career except for his freshman year. It wasn't so much that he regressed, but he was never healthy. There was a lot of that going around at Minny around then. I do not know what they are doing, but they seem to have the least healthy team at the national tourney year after year.

Also, even in his international career, he has been injury ridden.

If we ask Mike Mena or Bart Chelsavig(sp) or Scott Trizzino or any of the other greats that have left Iowa without a tittle, do you think they would have a bad taste in their mouth. I would say yes, but they would not blame Iowa. I am guessing the same would be true for Megaludis if he doesn't get a title.
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Iowa would give Minn a big run for the injuries going into nationals title. Iowa just doesn't disclose them or use them as excuses.
 
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Iowa would give Minn a big run for the injuries going into nationals title. Iowa just doesn't disclose them or use them as excuses.
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M* was an AA with an MCL & PCL that were "gone" as it was described after 2010 NCAAs. Will always give him a pass on any criticism because of that gutsy performance. I'm sure we've had others, but he's one tough SOB in my book.
 
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moug said:
M* was an AA with an MCL & PCL that were "gone" as it was described after 2010 NCAAs. Will always give him a pass on any criticism because of that gutsy performance. I'm sure we've had others, but he's one tough SOB in my book.
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Morningstar is a tough SOB.
 
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The thing Penn State homers fail to comprehend is that making a 2 hour trip to watch Penn State doesn't take much planning and can be done on a whim without any real investment. Making a 10 hour trip to visit Iowa is something that you're not going to do over and over again unless you have serious interest in the school. He could very well end up at Penn State, but if they don't think Iowa has a chance they are delusional.
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Someone notes that Lee was at the NLO (nothing more), and this is the response? Must have touched a nerve ...
 
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I'm aware of his injury his senior year that doesn't really explain going from 1st 3rd to 7th though I know you're a gopher fan I was just trying to make a point
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Unless I missed something, the guy you were responding to isn't a Gopher fan. Furthermore, if you were trying to make a point based on Dustin Schlatter's career placement and think it had nothing to do with multiple injuries, you failed miserably. And I assure you I am as far away from being a Gopher fan as one could possibly be.

Similar to another of your New York boys, Schlatter's career was derailed by injuries, much like Troy Nickerson's. These guys were shells of their former selves late in their careers. Damn shame.
 
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