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No, America Wasn’t ‘Founded’ By Immigrants​

By: Brianna Lyman
January 27, 2025
5 min read

Badgering Americans with the false claim that America was ‘founded’ by immigrants creates the idea that she is prohibited from protecting her sovereignty out of fear of being ‘un-American.’

On Sunday, CBS News’ Margaret Brennan tried to get one over on Vice President J.D. Vance, badgering him about immigration and claiming “this is a country founded by immigrants.” But this narrative isn’t just inaccurate, it’s a calculated lie intentionally pushed to justify radical open border policies that threaten to dismantle the very country our Founders built.

Vance held his own, refuting the baseless claim by noting the country was founded “by some immigrants and some settlers” and that such a founding is not a “get-out-of-jail” free card for having the “dumbest immigration policy in the world.”

And Vance is right.

Britain began establishing the 13 original colonies in the early 1600’s. Over the next century or so, hundreds of thousands of Brits moved to the British colonies that were established by settlers — not immigrants. There was no “nation” being immigrated to by the first settlers. The Brits didn’t come to America to join a pre-existing country. It was just land. There were no laws, borders, maps, or written language. The British settlers came to uncharted land to establish colonies under British rule. They were entrepreneurs building this nation from scratch, not immigrants joining a pre-existing nation.

“But what about the Native Americans? They were nations!” some may contend. But they were not. They were tribal clans. Clans are peoples, but not nations (and to boot, Native Americans are believed to have come from Asia before crossing the Bering land bridge and making their way to the present-day United States).

Yet the left will repeat the claim that America was “founded” by immigrants to serve one purpose: to erase the country’s unique identity and justify endless immigration. If we are truly a nation “founded” by immigrants, then logic would follow it would be wholly un-American to want to control mass immigration (both legal and illegal) since our inception was a result of such immigration.

But America was never just a multicultural experiment that began with and requires an endless influx of immigrants (both legal and illegal) to sustain itself. The settlers were not a hodge-podge of random cultures and religions and languages and customs. America was founded by Anglo Protestants who pulled ideas of liberty and independence from Anglo-liberalism, which grounded itself in the idea of equality, freedom, and government controlled by the people (it was most commonly associated with thinkers like John Locke). These settlers forged a new nation, instituted customs, traditions, and a national identity.

And our Founders understood the importance of a national identity, with Thomas Jefferson writing in 1776 that while he is “for extending the right of suffrage (or in other words the right of a citizen) to all who had a permanent intention of living in the country … Whoever intends to live in a country must wish that country well, and has a natural right of assisting in the preservation of it.”

In simpler terms, assimilation was a requirement of anyone coming to America.

But what exactly is to be preserved or assimilated into if the left is correct in that America was “founded” by immigrants and therefore is just a nation of immigrants? Such a premise presupposes that we are merely an ever-changing mixture of the dominant immigrant groups at any point in time.

But as my colleague John Daniel Davidson explains, what not only demands but deserves preservation is our “common language and a shared history.”

“We have a certain way of life and customs. We have a distinctly American identity. Our system of government is founded explicitly on Christian claims about God and man,” Davidson wrote.

Such a notion was shared by Teddy Roosevelt in 1907 when he said: “We have room for but one flag, the American flag … We have room for but one language here, and that is the English language … and we have room for but one sole loyalty and that is a loyalty to the American people.”

So Why Spread The Lie?​

Because the left has weaponized this lie to dismantle America. Forget the cultural effect of flooding our country with millions of people who don’t speak the language or share our values. Forget about the fact that many come from cultures and religions that do not align with our Western, Christian-Judeo foundation. Who cares about customs and traditions? Because according to the left, if you do care, you’re xenophobic, racist, and most offensively, “anti-American” since if America is a “nation founded by immigrants.”

But if America is really just a “nation of immigrants,” then what does it mean to be “American?”

Well, nothing. If simply being born here or moving here qualifies someone as “American,” then “American” ceases to be a unique identity. It’s diluted to the point of meaninglessness.

Alexander Hamilton warned us in 1802 that “the safety of a republic depends essentially on the energy of a common National sentiment; on a uniformity of principles and habits; on the exception of the citizens from foreign bias, and prejudice …”

In other words, without a common identity, we’re toast. And the annual importation of millions of foreigners threatens that national identity, especially when we no longer demand complete and total assimilation.

So the short of it is: No, America was not “founded” by immigrants. But badgering Americans with the false claim that America was “founded” by immigrants (and is therefore responsible for endlessly welcoming immigrants) creates the idea that the country is prohibited from protecting its sovereignty out of fear of being “un-American.” The goal is simple: browbeat Americans into believing that America is merely an economic opportunity zone that is open to anyone from anywhere irrespective of the cost to our country.

 

No, America Wasn’t ‘Founded’ By Immigrants​

By: Brianna Lyman
January 27, 2025
5 min read

Badgering Americans with the false claim that America was ‘founded’ by immigrants creates the idea that she is prohibited from protecting her sovereignty out of fear of being ‘un-American.’

On Sunday, CBS News’ Margaret Brennan tried to get one over on Vice President J.D. Vance, badgering him about immigration and claiming “this is a country founded by immigrants.” But this narrative isn’t just inaccurate, it’s a calculated lie intentionally pushed to justify radical open border policies that threaten to dismantle the very country our Founders built.

Vance held his own, refuting the baseless claim by noting the country was founded “by some immigrants and some settlers” and that such a founding is not a “get-out-of-jail” free card for having the “dumbest immigration policy in the world.”

And Vance is right.

Britain began establishing the 13 original colonies in the early 1600’s. Over the next century or so, hundreds of thousands of Brits moved to the British colonies that were established by settlers — not immigrants. There was no “nation” being immigrated to by the first settlers. The Brits didn’t come to America to join a pre-existing country. It was just land. There were no laws, borders, maps, or written language. The British settlers came to uncharted land to establish colonies under British rule. They were entrepreneurs building this nation from scratch, not immigrants joining a pre-existing nation.

“But what about the Native Americans? They were nations!” some may contend. But they were not. They were tribal clans. Clans are peoples, but not nations (and to boot, Native Americans are believed to have come from Asia before crossing the Bering land bridge and making their way to the present-day United States).

Yet the left will repeat the claim that America was “founded” by immigrants to serve one purpose: to erase the country’s unique identity and justify endless immigration. If we are truly a nation “founded” by immigrants, then logic would follow it would be wholly un-American to want to control mass immigration (both legal and illegal) since our inception was a result of such immigration.

But America was never just a multicultural experiment that began with and requires an endless influx of immigrants (both legal and illegal) to sustain itself. The settlers were not a hodge-podge of random cultures and religions and languages and customs. America was founded by Anglo Protestants who pulled ideas of liberty and independence from Anglo-liberalism, which grounded itself in the idea of equality, freedom, and government controlled by the people (it was most commonly associated with thinkers like John Locke). These settlers forged a new nation, instituted customs, traditions, and a national identity.

And our Founders understood the importance of a national identity, with Thomas Jefferson writing in 1776 that while he is “for extending the right of suffrage (or in other words the right of a citizen) to all who had a permanent intention of living in the country … Whoever intends to live in a country must wish that country well, and has a natural right of assisting in the preservation of it.”

In simpler terms, assimilation was a requirement of anyone coming to America.

But what exactly is to be preserved or assimilated into if the left is correct in that America was “founded” by immigrants and therefore is just a nation of immigrants? Such a premise presupposes that we are merely an ever-changing mixture of the dominant immigrant groups at any point in time.

But as my colleague John Daniel Davidson explains, what not only demands but deserves preservation is our “common language and a shared history.”

“We have a certain way of life and customs. We have a distinctly American identity. Our system of government is founded explicitly on Christian claims about God and man,” Davidson wrote.

Such a notion was shared by Teddy Roosevelt in 1907 when he said: “We have room for but one flag, the American flag … We have room for but one language here, and that is the English language … and we have room for but one sole loyalty and that is a loyalty to the American people.”

So Why Spread The Lie?​

Because the left has weaponized this lie to dismantle America. Forget the cultural effect of flooding our country with millions of people who don’t speak the language or share our values. Forget about the fact that many come from cultures and religions that do not align with our Western, Christian-Judeo foundation. Who cares about customs and traditions? Because according to the left, if you do care, you’re xenophobic, racist, and most offensively, “anti-American” since if America is a “nation founded by immigrants.”

But if America is really just a “nation of immigrants,” then what does it mean to be “American?”

Well, nothing. If simply being born here or moving here qualifies someone as “American,” then “American” ceases to be a unique identity. It’s diluted to the point of meaninglessness.

Alexander Hamilton warned us in 1802 that “the safety of a republic depends essentially on the energy of a common National sentiment; on a uniformity of principles and habits; on the exception of the citizens from foreign bias, and prejudice …”

In other words, without a common identity, we’re toast. And the annual importation of millions of foreigners threatens that national identity, especially when we no longer demand complete and total assimilation.

So the short of it is: No, America was not “founded” by immigrants. But badgering Americans with the false claim that America was “founded” by immigrants (and is therefore responsible for endlessly welcoming immigrants) creates the idea that the country is prohibited from protecting its sovereignty out of fear of being “un-American.” The goal is simple: browbeat Americans into believing that America is merely an economic opportunity zone that is open to anyone from anywhere irrespective of the cost to our country.

That might be some of the dumbest shit you ever posted. And, holy hell, that’s saying a lot.
 
That might be some of the dumbest shit you ever posted. And, holy hell, that’s saying a lot.
Oh look at me, I can say something is stupid but have 0 replies to ANYTHING that was said. Don't out yourself as an idiot and call other people's posts stupid and you can save yourself a lot of heart ache.

And to think we have 4 years of this, and we're just getting started. This is delicious.
 
Oh look at me, I can say something is stupid but have 0 replies to ANYTHING that was said. Don't out yourself as an idiot and call other people's posts stupid and you can save yourself a lot of heart ache.

And to think we have 4 years of this, and we're just getting started. This is delicious.
It’s completely stupid and Vance is a POS like you.
 

No, America Wasn’t ‘Founded’ By Immigrants​

By: Brianna Lyman
January 27, 2025
5 min read

Badgering Americans with the false claim that America was ‘founded’ by immigrants creates the idea that she is prohibited from protecting her sovereignty out of fear of being ‘un-American.’

On Sunday, CBS News’ Margaret Brennan tried to get one over on Vice President J.D. Vance, badgering him about immigration and claiming “this is a country founded by immigrants.” But this narrative isn’t just inaccurate, it’s a calculated lie intentionally pushed to justify radical open border policies that threaten to dismantle the very country our Founders built.

Vance held his own, refuting the baseless claim by noting the country was founded “by some immigrants and some settlers” and that such a founding is not a “get-out-of-jail” free card for having the “dumbest immigration policy in the world.”

And Vance is right.

Britain began establishing the 13 original colonies in the early 1600’s. Over the next century or so, hundreds of thousands of Brits moved to the British colonies that were established by settlers — not immigrants. There was no “nation” being immigrated to by the first settlers. The Brits didn’t come to America to join a pre-existing country. It was just land. There were no laws, borders, maps, or written language. The British settlers came to uncharted land to establish colonies under British rule. They were entrepreneurs building this nation from scratch, not immigrants joining a pre-existing nation.

“But what about the Native Americans? They were nations!” some may contend. But they were not. They were tribal clans. Clans are peoples, but not nations (and to boot, Native Americans are believed to have come from Asia before crossing the Bering land bridge and making their way to the present-day United States).

Yet the left will repeat the claim that America was “founded” by immigrants to serve one purpose: to erase the country’s unique identity and justify endless immigration. If we are truly a nation “founded” by immigrants, then logic would follow it would be wholly un-American to want to control mass immigration (both legal and illegal) since our inception was a result of such immigration.

But America was never just a multicultural experiment that began with and requires an endless influx of immigrants (both legal and illegal) to sustain itself. The settlers were not a hodge-podge of random cultures and religions and languages and customs. America was founded by Anglo Protestants who pulled ideas of liberty and independence from Anglo-liberalism, which grounded itself in the idea of equality, freedom, and government controlled by the people (it was most commonly associated with thinkers like John Locke). These settlers forged a new nation, instituted customs, traditions, and a national identity.

And our Founders understood the importance of a national identity, with Thomas Jefferson writing in 1776 that while he is “for extending the right of suffrage (or in other words the right of a citizen) to all who had a permanent intention of living in the country … Whoever intends to live in a country must wish that country well, and has a natural right of assisting in the preservation of it.”

In simpler terms, assimilation was a requirement of anyone coming to America.

But what exactly is to be preserved or assimilated into if the left is correct in that America was “founded” by immigrants and therefore is just a nation of immigrants? Such a premise presupposes that we are merely an ever-changing mixture of the dominant immigrant groups at any point in time.

But as my colleague John Daniel Davidson explains, what not only demands but deserves preservation is our “common language and a shared history.”

“We have a certain way of life and customs. We have a distinctly American identity. Our system of government is founded explicitly on Christian claims about God and man,” Davidson wrote.

Such a notion was shared by Teddy Roosevelt in 1907 when he said: “We have room for but one flag, the American flag … We have room for but one language here, and that is the English language … and we have room for but one sole loyalty and that is a loyalty to the American people.”

So Why Spread The Lie?​

Because the left has weaponized this lie to dismantle America. Forget the cultural effect of flooding our country with millions of people who don’t speak the language or share our values. Forget about the fact that many come from cultures and religions that do not align with our Western, Christian-Judeo foundation. Who cares about customs and traditions? Because according to the left, if you do care, you’re xenophobic, racist, and most offensively, “anti-American” since if America is a “nation founded by immigrants.”

But if America is really just a “nation of immigrants,” then what does it mean to be “American?”

Well, nothing. If simply being born here or moving here qualifies someone as “American,” then “American” ceases to be a unique identity. It’s diluted to the point of meaninglessness.

Alexander Hamilton warned us in 1802 that “the safety of a republic depends essentially on the energy of a common National sentiment; on a uniformity of principles and habits; on the exception of the citizens from foreign bias, and prejudice …”

In other words, without a common identity, we’re toast. And the annual importation of millions of foreigners threatens that national identity, especially when we no longer demand complete and total assimilation.

So the short of it is: No, America was not “founded” by immigrants. But badgering Americans with the false claim that America was “founded” by immigrants (and is therefore responsible for endlessly welcoming immigrants) creates the idea that the country is prohibited from protecting its sovereignty out of fear of being “un-American.” The goal is simple: browbeat Americans into believing that America is merely an economic opportunity zone that is open to anyone from anywhere irrespective of the cost to our country.

I suppose it might be fairer to say it was founded by imperialists, but to the extent some of the founding generations might be considered immigrants, or refugees, they were religious immigrants or refugees. And yet…

What say you Margaret?
 
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TL;DR Summary:

The article argues against the claim that America was "founded by immigrants," asserting that it misrepresents the nation's origins and undermines its sovereignty. The settlers who established the 13 original colonies were entrepreneurs and pioneers from Britain, not immigrants joining a pre-existing nation. The article contends that promoting this narrative is a political tactic to justify open-border policies, erode national identity, and dismiss the importance of assimilation. It emphasizes that America's foundation is rooted in Anglo-Protestant values, a shared history, and a distinct identity, which are jeopardized by unchecked immigration and a failure to preserve common cultural and national principles.

Ragnar Lothbrok Summary:

Ah, so, dis article, it says America, yah, vas not "founded by immigrants," you know? It vas settlers, mostly from Britain, who came to dis land, yah, and dey built da colonies from scratch, not joining some existing country. Da claim dat America is "founded by immigrants" is seen as a political trick, yah, to push open borders and weaken da national identity. Instead, dey say America’s roots are in Anglo-Protestant values, a shared history, and a strong sense of assimilation. Without preserving dis identity, da article warns, da whole ting could fall apart, yah. So dere you have it—no need for dis "nation of immigrants" talk, dey say!
 

No, America Wasn’t ‘Founded’ By Immigrants​

By: Brianna Lyman
January 27, 2025
5 min read

Badgering Americans with the false claim that America was ‘founded’ by immigrants creates the idea that she is prohibited from protecting her sovereignty out of fear of being ‘un-American.’

On Sunday, CBS News’ Margaret Brennan tried to get one over on Vice President J.D. Vance, badgering him about immigration and claiming “this is a country founded by immigrants.” But this narrative isn’t just inaccurate, it’s a calculated lie intentionally pushed to justify radical open border policies that threaten to dismantle the very country our Founders built.

Vance held his own, refuting the baseless claim by noting the country was founded “by some immigrants and some settlers” and that such a founding is not a “get-out-of-jail” free card for having the “dumbest immigration policy in the world.”

And Vance is right.

Britain began establishing the 13 original colonies in the early 1600’s. Over the next century or so, hundreds of thousands of Brits moved to the British colonies that were established by settlers — not immigrants. There was no “nation” being immigrated to by the first settlers. The Brits didn’t come to America to join a pre-existing country. It was just land. There were no laws, borders, maps, or written language. The British settlers came to uncharted land to establish colonies under British rule. They were entrepreneurs building this nation from scratch, not immigrants joining a pre-existing nation.

“But what about the Native Americans? They were nations!” some may contend. But they were not. They were tribal clans. Clans are peoples, but not nations (and to boot, Native Americans are believed to have come from Asia before crossing the Bering land bridge and making their way to the present-day United States).

Yet the left will repeat the claim that America was “founded” by immigrants to serve one purpose: to erase the country’s unique identity and justify endless immigration. If we are truly a nation “founded” by immigrants, then logic would follow it would be wholly un-American to want to control mass immigration (both legal and illegal) since our inception was a result of such immigration.

But America was never just a multicultural experiment that began with and requires an endless influx of immigrants (both legal and illegal) to sustain itself. The settlers were not a hodge-podge of random cultures and religions and languages and customs. America was founded by Anglo Protestants who pulled ideas of liberty and independence from Anglo-liberalism, which grounded itself in the idea of equality, freedom, and government controlled by the people (it was most commonly associated with thinkers like John Locke). These settlers forged a new nation, instituted customs, traditions, and a national identity.

And our Founders understood the importance of a national identity, with Thomas Jefferson writing in 1776 that while he is “for extending the right of suffrage (or in other words the right of a citizen) to all who had a permanent intention of living in the country … Whoever intends to live in a country must wish that country well, and has a natural right of assisting in the preservation of it.”

In simpler terms, assimilation was a requirement of anyone coming to America.

But what exactly is to be preserved or assimilated into if the left is correct in that America was “founded” by immigrants and therefore is just a nation of immigrants? Such a premise presupposes that we are merely an ever-changing mixture of the dominant immigrant groups at any point in time.

But as my colleague John Daniel Davidson explains, what not only demands but deserves preservation is our “common language and a shared history.”

“We have a certain way of life and customs. We have a distinctly American identity. Our system of government is founded explicitly on Christian claims about God and man,” Davidson wrote.

Such a notion was shared by Teddy Roosevelt in 1907 when he said: “We have room for but one flag, the American flag … We have room for but one language here, and that is the English language … and we have room for but one sole loyalty and that is a loyalty to the American people.”

So Why Spread The Lie?​

Because the left has weaponized this lie to dismantle America. Forget the cultural effect of flooding our country with millions of people who don’t speak the language or share our values. Forget about the fact that many come from cultures and religions that do not align with our Western, Christian-Judeo foundation. Who cares about customs and traditions? Because according to the left, if you do care, you’re xenophobic, racist, and most offensively, “anti-American” since if America is a “nation founded by immigrants.”

But if America is really just a “nation of immigrants,” then what does it mean to be “American?”

Well, nothing. If simply being born here or moving here qualifies someone as “American,” then “American” ceases to be a unique identity. It’s diluted to the point of meaninglessness.

Alexander Hamilton warned us in 1802 that “the safety of a republic depends essentially on the energy of a common National sentiment; on a uniformity of principles and habits; on the exception of the citizens from foreign bias, and prejudice …”

In other words, without a common identity, we’re toast. And the annual importation of millions of foreigners threatens that national identity, especially when we no longer demand complete and total assimilation.

So the short of it is: No, America was not “founded” by immigrants. But badgering Americans with the false claim that America was “founded” by immigrants (and is therefore responsible for endlessly welcoming immigrants) creates the idea that the country is prohibited from protecting its sovereignty out of fear of being “un-American.” The goal is simple: browbeat Americans into believing that America is merely an economic opportunity zone that is open to anyone from anywhere irrespective of the cost to our country.

Holy shit, you’ll buy anything.
 
The narratives are really flowing these days from the right. Can you regale us with stories of how the noble republicans freed the slaves from the evil democrats? They really need a Ministry of Truth to ensure the proper messaging/thinking is in place.

Regarding this particular story, what about all of the people who arrived after the initial settlements? In keeping with the framework of the narrative, unless you are purely descended from the original British colonists (or native Americans) your family immigrated to the US. For example, I'm Irish/Slovak/German/Ukrainian (and some others). My wife is Scandinavian/Viking. Our ancestors arrived mostly in the late 1800s and early 1900s.

I would not be surprised if Trump signs an EO to take down the offensive plaque from the statue of liberty.
 
Yet the left will repeat the claim that America was “founded” by immigrants to serve one purpose: to erase the country’s unique identity and justify endless immigration. If we are truly a nation “founded” by immigrants, then logic would follow it would be wholly un-American to want to control mass immigration (both legal and illegal) since our inception was a result of such immigration.
But we were still totally founded to be a Christian nation I'm sure. However, using the logic here, if that were the case, we would have never included the free exercise clause in our very first amendment and it would totally un-American to be anything other than Christian.

Well, at least we got that one out of the way.
 

No, America Wasn’t ‘Founded’ By Immigrants​

By: Brianna Lyman
January 27, 2025
5 min read

Badgering Americans with the false claim that America was ‘founded’ by immigrants creates the idea that she is prohibited from protecting her sovereignty out of fear of being ‘un-American.’

On Sunday, CBS News’ Margaret Brennan tried to get one over on Vice President J.D. Vance, badgering him about immigration and claiming “this is a country founded by immigrants.” But this narrative isn’t just inaccurate, it’s a calculated lie intentionally pushed to justify radical open border policies that threaten to dismantle the very country our Founders built.

Vance held his own, refuting the baseless claim by noting the country was founded “by some immigrants and some settlers” and that such a founding is not a “get-out-of-jail” free card for having the “dumbest immigration policy in the world.”

And Vance is right.

Britain began establishing the 13 original colonies in the early 1600’s. Over the next century or so, hundreds of thousands of Brits moved to the British colonies that were established by settlers — not immigrants. There was no “nation” being immigrated to by the first settlers. The Brits didn’t come to America to join a pre-existing country. It was just land. There were no laws, borders, maps, or written language. The British settlers came to uncharted land to establish colonies under British rule. They were entrepreneurs building this nation from scratch, not immigrants joining a pre-existing nation.

“But what about the Native Americans? They were nations!” some may contend. But they were not. They were tribal clans. Clans are peoples, but not nations (and to boot, Native Americans are believed to have come from Asia before crossing the Bering land bridge and making their way to the present-day United States).

Yet the left will repeat the claim that America was “founded” by immigrants to serve one purpose: to erase the country’s unique identity and justify endless immigration. If we are truly a nation “founded” by immigrants, then logic would follow it would be wholly un-American to want to control mass immigration (both legal and illegal) since our inception was a result of such immigration.

But America was never just a multicultural experiment that began with and requires an endless influx of immigrants (both legal and illegal) to sustain itself. The settlers were not a hodge-podge of random cultures and religions and languages and customs. America was founded by Anglo Protestants who pulled ideas of liberty and independence from Anglo-liberalism, which grounded itself in the idea of equality, freedom, and government controlled by the people (it was most commonly associated with thinkers like John Locke). These settlers forged a new nation, instituted customs, traditions, and a national identity.

And our Founders understood the importance of a national identity, with Thomas Jefferson writing in 1776 that while he is “for extending the right of suffrage (or in other words the right of a citizen) to all who had a permanent intention of living in the country … Whoever intends to live in a country must wish that country well, and has a natural right of assisting in the preservation of it.”

In simpler terms, assimilation was a requirement of anyone coming to America.

But what exactly is to be preserved or assimilated into if the left is correct in that America was “founded” by immigrants and therefore is just a nation of immigrants? Such a premise presupposes that we are merely an ever-changing mixture of the dominant immigrant groups at any point in time.

But as my colleague John Daniel Davidson explains, what not only demands but deserves preservation is our “common language and a shared history.”

“We have a certain way of life and customs. We have a distinctly American identity. Our system of government is founded explicitly on Christian claims about God and man,” Davidson wrote.

Such a notion was shared by Teddy Roosevelt in 1907 when he said: “We have room for but one flag, the American flag … We have room for but one language here, and that is the English language … and we have room for but one sole loyalty and that is a loyalty to the American people.”

So Why Spread The Lie?​

Because the left has weaponized this lie to dismantle America. Forget the cultural effect of flooding our country with millions of people who don’t speak the language or share our values. Forget about the fact that many come from cultures and religions that do not align with our Western, Christian-Judeo foundation. Who cares about customs and traditions? Because according to the left, if you do care, you’re xenophobic, racist, and most offensively, “anti-American” since if America is a “nation founded by immigrants.”

But if America is really just a “nation of immigrants,” then what does it mean to be “American?”

Well, nothing. If simply being born here or moving here qualifies someone as “American,” then “American” ceases to be a unique identity. It’s diluted to the point of meaninglessness.

Alexander Hamilton warned us in 1802 that “the safety of a republic depends essentially on the energy of a common National sentiment; on a uniformity of principles and habits; on the exception of the citizens from foreign bias, and prejudice …”

In other words, without a common identity, we’re toast. And the annual importation of millions of foreigners threatens that national identity, especially when we no longer demand complete and total assimilation.

So the short of it is: No, America was not “founded” by immigrants. But badgering Americans with the false claim that America was “founded” by immigrants (and is therefore responsible for endlessly welcoming immigrants) creates the idea that the country is prohibited from protecting its sovereignty out of fear of being “un-American.” The goal is simple: browbeat Americans into believing that America is merely an economic opportunity zone that is open to anyone from anywhere irrespective of the cost to our country.

I would say that America became the GREATEST country on earth because of our history of Immigration, but I don't see the problem with this article addressing the truth in how it first came to be. Instead of one liners saying it is all just MEGA tripe, why doesn't someone just explain why it is not accurate? It would be great if we could have a normal debate about stuff like this instead of each side calling each other names. And yes, I know I have been guitly of that. I would like to do and be better.
 
But we were still totally founded to be a Christian nation I'm sure. However, using the logic here, if that were the case, we would have never included the free exercise clause in our very first amendment and it would totally un-American to be anything other than Christian.

Well, at least we got that one out of the way.
Genuinely wondering what @RileyHawk is laughing emojiing about. Can't imagine he disagrees with what I wrote. And it's not funny. Pavlov's response?
 
I would say that America became the GREATEST country on earth because of our history of Immigration, but I don't see the problem with this article addressing the truth in how it first came to be. Instead of one liners saying it is all just MEGA tripe, why doesn't someone just explain why it is not accurate? It would be great if we could have a normal debate about stuff like this instead of each side calling each other names. And yes, I know I have been guitly of that. I would like to do and be better.

I guess I’d be willing to have a rational discussion about the merits of the article if immigration - as a whole - wasn’t vilified by one side of the political spectrum.

I’ll give as much recognition to the “founded” aspect when the other side cedes there is an enormous debt to be owed to the “built” facet.
 
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A settler is an immigrant.​

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immigrant​

noun

im·mi·grant ˈi-mə-grənt

Synonyms of immigrant
: one that immigrates: such as
a
: a person who comes to a country to take up permanent residence



settler​

noun

set·tler ˈse-tᵊl-ər
ˈset-lər

Synonyms of settler
1
: one that settles something
a settler of disputes


2
: someone who settles in a new region or colony
the first settlers of New England
 
I guess I’d be willing to have a rational discussion about the merits of the article if immigration - as a whole - wasn’t vilified by one side of the political spectrum.

I’ll give as much recognition to the “founded” aspect when the other side cedes there is an enormous debt to be owed to the “built” facet.
Wanting people to knock on the door and be welcomed into your home is not vilifying anything. I am PRO immigration but go through the process. Being an American is a privilege, and I get there's folks all around the world who would LOVE to live here. They need to focus on changing their country and not trying to bypass the process for legal immigration.

I would rather have a cashier than self check-out, but that doesn't mean I get to just walk out of the store with whatever I want. There's a universal basic understanding of right and wrong.
 

No, America Wasn’t ‘Founded’ By Immigrants​

By: Brianna Lyman
January 27, 2025
5 min read

Badgering Americans with the false claim that America was ‘founded’ by immigrants creates the idea that she is prohibited from protecting her sovereignty out of fear of being ‘un-American.’

On Sunday, CBS News’ Margaret Brennan tried to get one over on Vice President J.D. Vance, badgering him about immigration and claiming “this is a country founded by immigrants.” But this narrative isn’t just inaccurate, it’s a calculated lie intentionally pushed to justify radical open border policies that threaten to dismantle the very country our Founders built.

Vance held his own, refuting the baseless claim by noting the country was founded “by some immigrants and some settlers” and that such a founding is not a “get-out-of-jail” free card for having the “dumbest immigration policy in the world.”

And Vance is right.

Britain began establishing the 13 original colonies in the early 1600’s. Over the next century or so, hundreds of thousands of Brits moved to the British colonies that were established by settlers — not immigrants. There was no “nation” being immigrated to by the first settlers. The Brits didn’t come to America to join a pre-existing country. It was just land. There were no laws, borders, maps, or written language. The British settlers came to uncharted land to establish colonies under British rule. They were entrepreneurs building this nation from scratch, not immigrants joining a pre-existing nation.

“But what about the Native Americans? They were nations!” some may contend. But they were not. They were tribal clans. Clans are peoples, but not nations (and to boot, Native Americans are believed to have come from Asia before crossing the Bering land bridge and making their way to the present-day United States).

Yet the left will repeat the claim that America was “founded” by immigrants to serve one purpose: to erase the country’s unique identity and justify endless immigration. If we are truly a nation “founded” by immigrants, then logic would follow it would be wholly un-American to want to control mass immigration (both legal and illegal) since our inception was a result of such immigration.

But America was never just a multicultural experiment that began with and requires an endless influx of immigrants (both legal and illegal) to sustain itself. The settlers were not a hodge-podge of random cultures and religions and languages and customs. America was founded by Anglo Protestants who pulled ideas of liberty and independence from Anglo-liberalism, which grounded itself in the idea of equality, freedom, and government controlled by the people (it was most commonly associated with thinkers like John Locke). These settlers forged a new nation, instituted customs, traditions, and a national identity.

And our Founders understood the importance of a national identity, with Thomas Jefferson writing in 1776 that while he is “for extending the right of suffrage (or in other words the right of a citizen) to all who had a permanent intention of living in the country … Whoever intends to live in a country must wish that country well, and has a natural right of assisting in the preservation of it.”

In simpler terms, assimilation was a requirement of anyone coming to America.

But what exactly is to be preserved or assimilated into if the left is correct in that America was “founded” by immigrants and therefore is just a nation of immigrants? Such a premise presupposes that we are merely an ever-changing mixture of the dominant immigrant groups at any point in time.

But as my colleague John Daniel Davidson explains, what not only demands but deserves preservation is our “common language and a shared history.”

“We have a certain way of life and customs. We have a distinctly American identity. Our system of government is founded explicitly on Christian claims about God and man,” Davidson wrote.

Such a notion was shared by Teddy Roosevelt in 1907 when he said: “We have room for but one flag, the American flag … We have room for but one language here, and that is the English language … and we have room for but one sole loyalty and that is a loyalty to the American people.”

So Why Spread The Lie?​

Because the left has weaponized this lie to dismantle America. Forget the cultural effect of flooding our country with millions of people who don’t speak the language or share our values. Forget about the fact that many come from cultures and religions that do not align with our Western, Christian-Judeo foundation. Who cares about customs and traditions? Because according to the left, if you do care, you’re xenophobic, racist, and most offensively, “anti-American” since if America is a “nation founded by immigrants.”

But if America is really just a “nation of immigrants,” then what does it mean to be “American?”

Well, nothing. If simply being born here or moving here qualifies someone as “American,” then “American” ceases to be a unique identity. It’s diluted to the point of meaninglessness.

Alexander Hamilton warned us in 1802 that “the safety of a republic depends essentially on the energy of a common National sentiment; on a uniformity of principles and habits; on the exception of the citizens from foreign bias, and prejudice …”

In other words, without a common identity, we’re toast. And the annual importation of millions of foreigners threatens that national identity, especially when we no longer demand complete and total assimilation.

So the short of it is: No, America was not “founded” by immigrants. But badgering Americans with the false claim that America was “founded” by immigrants (and is therefore responsible for endlessly welcoming immigrants) creates the idea that the country is prohibited from protecting its sovereignty out of fear of being “un-American.” The goal is simple: browbeat Americans into believing that America is merely an economic opportunity zone that is open to anyone from anywhere irrespective of the cost to our country.

The Thomas Jefferson quote forgot as long as they aren’t slaves. America was built, founded, settled, etc. by immigrants. Perhaps if America had never expanded past the 13 colonies or West of the Mississippi the author. May have a vague point.
 
Wanting people to knock on the door and be welcomed into your home is not vilifying anything. I am PRO immigration but go through the process. Being an American is a privilege, and I get there's folks all around the world who would LOVE to live here. They need to focus on changing their country and not trying to bypass the process for legal immigration.

I would rather have a cashier than self check-out, but that doesn't mean I get to just walk out of the store with whatever I want. There's a universal basic understanding of right and wrong.
I love it when you try to make analogies.
 
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No, America Wasn’t ‘Founded’ By Immigrants​

By: Brianna Lyman
January 27, 2025
5 min read

Badgering Americans with the false claim that America was ‘founded’ by immigrants creates the idea that she is prohibited from protecting her sovereignty out of fear of being ‘un-American.’

On Sunday, CBS News’ Margaret Brennan tried to get one over on Vice President J.D. Vance, badgering him about immigration and claiming “this is a country founded by immigrants.” But this narrative isn’t just inaccurate, it’s a calculated lie intentionally pushed to justify radical open border policies that threaten to dismantle the very country our Founders built.

Vance held his own, refuting the baseless claim by noting the country was founded “by some immigrants and some settlers” and that such a founding is not a “get-out-of-jail” free card for having the “dumbest immigration policy in the world.”

And Vance is right.

Britain began establishing the 13 original colonies in the early 1600’s. Over the next century or so, hundreds of thousands of Brits moved to the British colonies that were established by settlers — not immigrants. There was no “nation” being immigrated to by the first settlers. The Brits didn’t come to America to join a pre-existing country. It was just land. There were no laws, borders, maps, or written language. The British settlers came to uncharted land to establish colonies under British rule. They were entrepreneurs building this nation from scratch, not immigrants joining a pre-existing nation.

“But what about the Native Americans? They were nations!” some may contend. But they were not. They were tribal clans. Clans are peoples, but not nations (and to boot, Native Americans are believed to have come from Asia before crossing the Bering land bridge and making their way to the present-day United States).

Yet the left will repeat the claim that America was “founded” by immigrants to serve one purpose: to erase the country’s unique identity and justify endless immigration. If we are truly a nation “founded” by immigrants, then logic would follow it would be wholly un-American to want to control mass immigration (both legal and illegal) since our inception was a result of such immigration.

But America was never just a multicultural experiment that began with and requires an endless influx of immigrants (both legal and illegal) to sustain itself. The settlers were not a hodge-podge of random cultures and religions and languages and customs. America was founded by Anglo Protestants who pulled ideas of liberty and independence from Anglo-liberalism, which grounded itself in the idea of equality, freedom, and government controlled by the people (it was most commonly associated with thinkers like John Locke). These settlers forged a new nation, instituted customs, traditions, and a national identity.

And our Founders understood the importance of a national identity, with Thomas Jefferson writing in 1776 that while he is “for extending the right of suffrage (or in other words the right of a citizen) to all who had a permanent intention of living in the country … Whoever intends to live in a country must wish that country well, and has a natural right of assisting in the preservation of it.”

In simpler terms, assimilation was a requirement of anyone coming to America.

But what exactly is to be preserved or assimilated into if the left is correct in that America was “founded” by immigrants and therefore is just a nation of immigrants? Such a premise presupposes that we are merely an ever-changing mixture of the dominant immigrant groups at any point in time.

But as my colleague John Daniel Davidson explains, what not only demands but deserves preservation is our “common language and a shared history.”

“We have a certain way of life and customs. We have a distinctly American identity. Our system of government is founded explicitly on Christian claims about God and man,” Davidson wrote.

Such a notion was shared by Teddy Roosevelt in 1907 when he said: “We have room for but one flag, the American flag … We have room for but one language here, and that is the English language … and we have room for but one sole loyalty and that is a loyalty to the American people.”

So Why Spread The Lie?​

Because the left has weaponized this lie to dismantle America. Forget the cultural effect of flooding our country with millions of people who don’t speak the language or share our values. Forget about the fact that many come from cultures and religions that do not align with our Western, Christian-Judeo foundation. Who cares about customs and traditions? Because according to the left, if you do care, you’re xenophobic, racist, and most offensively, “anti-American” since if America is a “nation founded by immigrants.”

But if America is really just a “nation of immigrants,” then what does it mean to be “American?”

Well, nothing. If simply being born here or moving here qualifies someone as “American,” then “American” ceases to be a unique identity. It’s diluted to the point of meaninglessness.

Alexander Hamilton warned us in 1802 that “the safety of a republic depends essentially on the energy of a common National sentiment; on a uniformity of principles and habits; on the exception of the citizens from foreign bias, and prejudice …”

In other words, without a common identity, we’re toast. And the annual importation of millions of foreigners threatens that national identity, especially when we no longer demand complete and total assimilation.

So the short of it is: No, America was not “founded” by immigrants. But badgering Americans with the false claim that America was “founded” by immigrants (and is therefore responsible for endlessly welcoming immigrants) creates the idea that the country is prohibited from protecting its sovereignty out of fear of being “un-American.” The goal is simple: browbeat Americans into believing that America is merely an economic opportunity zone that is open to anyone from anywhere irrespective of the cost to our country.

I always hear that America was built by immigrants, not founded by immigrants. Now we're on the brink of further tightening the labor shortage in the construction industry. Nice job MAGA!
 
We aren't a nation of immigrants. We aren't a nation of laws. We aren't a nation of protestants. We are a nation of political will and citizens. Right now, the political will is to fix the illegal immigration issues starting with removing those who aren't "subject to the jurisdiction of the United States."
You just made your argument impossible and invalid because if illegal immigrants are NOT subject to the jurisdiction of the US as you say then the US authorities have no juridiction to arrest or round them up and deport them.

You cant have it both ways. Of course illegals ARE subject to the jurisdiction of the US and that negates the whole birthright citizenship Trump argument. Thanks for proving that point of law to every one
 
Not if Trump's SCOTUS "interprets" the Constitution to please him. Them those guys are just illegals who overstayed their welcome.

SCOTUS will uphold birthright citizenship,.. Not illegals, no established country here to welcome them, they were simply hatched in the wild...
 
Wanting people to knock on the door and be welcomed into your home is not vilifying anything. I am PRO immigration but go through the process. Being an American is a privilege, and I get there's folks all around the world who would LOVE to live here. They need to focus on changing their country and not trying to bypass the process for legal immigration.

I would rather have a cashier than self check-out, but that doesn't mean I get to just walk out of the store with whatever I want. There's a universal basic understanding of right and wrong.
The process is antiqued. Desperately needs to be updated. Migrants have been traveling here to do work for hundreds of years.
Right now the affluent go to the front of the line. Be it for citizenship or Visa’s. Until our government gets a handle on it. The border will continue to be an issue. Deport all you want. But the magnate of jobs and a better life will continue to draw them.
Settlers from Europe or Eastern America knew the chances of survival in the West were slim to none. Death from scalping, Mormons, disease, starvation, etc didn’t slow them down at all.
 
Ahhh...cool...birthright citizenship!

Thanks for playing.
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