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NO ONE WANTS TO WORK ANYMORE

I’ve been off work since early June. Getting full pay since it happened at work. Bored out of my mind because of heat, young kids, etc. Found out yesterday I need surgery on my shoulder that’s gonna keep me out of work another 5-6 months. Never thought I’d say this, but I really wanna work.
 
This is related to something that always gives me a chuckle.

Every named "generation" gets labelled with some variation of the same description...

- Idealistic
- Not as focused on material things
- Wants to change the world for the better
- Doesn't want to work as hard
- Concerned with feelings
- soft
- rejecting the conformity of the previous generation(s)
- independent

That was applied to describe baby boomers, then Gen X, then Millennials, now Gen Z, etc.

Guess what...those describe all young people. We start describing generations when they hit young adulthood, and use variations on things that ALWAYS describe young people.

I'm absolutely certain that the parents of the Greatest Generation were bitching about how entitled and soft their kids were.

It's so dumb. Sweeping generalizations about generations are so dumb. I like talking about generational differences, but the real differences are way more prosaic. It's hard to find things that apply widely to any generation, and don't apply widely to previous generations.

I think about it a lot, and to me maybe the most defining characteristic of Gen X is that it is the first generation that never gave up childish things in behavior, interests, style, hobbies, etc. Generation X is the generation that basically rejected formal work wear (once in a position to do so) and sees no problem with wearing shorts to work. They never stopped playing video games, role playing games, paintball, etc. They kept their baseball cards and their action figures. They watched and enjoyed Spongebob with their kids (or without kids).

I think this is the most definite thing that separates Generation X from previous. It's widespread, and it's a complete break.

GenX definitely broke the mold on certain things. My dad was giving me shit years ago about how we're just lucky that the Boomers gave us casual Fridays. I told him by the time we (GenX) is done we'll all be working from our houses in our underwear. Holy shit, I didn't know how prophetic that would be. Sure, the rona helped push it along, but we know how to shove through a door once we get our foot in!
 
I’ve been off work since early June. Getting full pay since it happened at work. Bored out of my mind because of heat, young kids, etc. Found out yesterday I need surgery on my shoulder that’s gonna keep me out of work another 5-6 months. Never thought I’d say this, but I really wanna work.

You need to find fulfilling hobbies my man!
 
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Oh they have adapted. a lot of it is retirement. As I said, I've been there 43 years, several have been there longer. It was something that's been in the works for years. It's not just at my company either, it's the entire area. Our unemployment is so low we have people working that don't want jobs out of guilt.
Sounds like you are in a rural area that just doesn't have enough people to support the employers there. This is common among rural areas - people just don't want to live there.
 
I had a supervisor at a previous job (super hot) that would say, hey you should take a day off before you lose your vacation time. And I would say, “when you love your job as much as I do everyday is a day off.” Of course, pure bullshit.
 
GenX definitely broke the mold on certain things. My dad was giving me shit years ago about how we're just lucky that the Boomers gave us casual Fridays. I told him by the time we (GenX) is done we'll all be working from our houses in our underwear. Holy shit, I didn't know how prophetic that would be. Sure, the rona helped push it along, but we know how to shove through a door once we get our foot in!

Yep, it's super weird thinking about how I started my career, and wore ties every day, for just random office work. Obviously, there are still positions that require business dress, but now it's not much different from saying some position require hard hats. When I started my career, if you weren't working outside or over a fryer, you wore a tie, its just what you did.
 
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Yep, it's super weird thinking about how I started my career, and wore ties every day, for just random office work. Obviously, there are still positions that require business dress, but now it's not much different from saying some position require hard hats. When I started my career, if you weren't working outside or over a fryer, you wore a tie, its just what you did.

Same here. So ridiculous to sit in a shirt and tie all day in front of a computer screen. And putting your coat on whenever you got up and moved around. Just stupid. I laugh when I think about how much of my initial salary went to my dry cleaning bill! Now - I'd have to dig deep in the closet to find my suit and brush the dust off the shoulders. What a horrible existence!
 
Yep, it's super weird thinking about how I started my career, and wore ties every day, for just random office work. Obviously, there are still positions that require business dress, but now it's not much different from saying some position require hard hats. When I started my career, if you weren't working outside or over a fryer, you wore a tie, its just what you did.
Yep. My Uncle started a computer programming job back in the 80s and had to wear ties everyday up until the early 00's. Then they went to business casual. Still had to wear slacks and polos. Finally a couple years before he retired they went to full casual dress. He loved it haha.
 
I work 6 ten hour days. Build 500 I phones. Big Bossman say “ work harder Chang, what you do Sunday? “

Classic Communism…
Yeah, communism is even worse.

That doesn't negate the accuracy of my observation.

Should we not be interested in improving capitalism just because communism sucks? Seems dumb to me.
 
Yep. My Uncle started a computer programming job back in the 80s and had to wear ties everyday up until the early 00's. Then they went to business casual. Still had to wear slacks and polos. Finally a couple years before he retired they went to full casual dress. He loved it haha.
I had to wear a tie and dress shirt every day in 1998 working as a reporter at The Muscatine Journal where they were paying me 18K a year.

Total. Joke.

So stupid to think of the hundreds of dollars I had to invest in a wardrobe for such a crummy paying job!
 
Maybe I'm old fashioned, but I like having a purpose and goals to achieve and find work a good outlet for that.
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Yep, it's super weird thinking about how I started my career, and wore ties every day, for just random office work. Obviously, there are still positions that require business dress, but now it's not much different from saying some position require hard hats. When I started my career, if you weren't working outside or over a fryer, you wore a tie, its just what you did.

Im 2.5 years removed from having to wear a suit every day. Why? No idea, but New York City was holding onto that culture for some reason
 
Also, while I'm hardly a socialist, if nobody wants to work then you're job is not attractive enough, whether pay, benefits, environment or whatever. The idea that young people should be happy to work like dogs for base pay because that's how it works and how we did it is just so much bullshit. If the corporate world has to readjust accordingly, then that's how its always been.
I don't disagree with this but I think we shouldn't let people be so comfortable not working if there are jobs out there.
 
You need to find fulfilling hobbies my man!
Oh I’ve got plenty. But they don’t consist of 95 degree heat and a 1.5 year old. My main hobby is hunting and I won’t be able to pull a bow back this fall. Football can’t come soon enough.
 
This is related to something that always gives me a chuckle.

Every named "generation" gets labelled with some variation of the same description...

- Idealistic
- Not as focused on material things
- Wants to change the world for the better
- Doesn't want to work as hard
- Concerned with feelings
- soft
- rejecting the conformity of the previous generation(s)
- independent

That was applied to describe baby boomers, then Gen X, then Millennials, now Gen Z, etc.

Guess what...those describe all young people. We start describing generations when they hit young adulthood, and use variations on things that ALWAYS describe young people.

I'm absolutely certain that the parents of the Greatest Generation were bitching about how entitled and soft their kids were.

It's so dumb. Sweeping generalizations about generations are so dumb. I like talking about generational differences, but the real differences are way more prosaic. It's hard to find things that apply widely to any generation, and don't apply widely to previous generations.

I think about it a lot, and to me maybe the most defining characteristic of Gen X is that it is the first generation that never gave up childish things in behavior, interests, style, hobbies, etc. Generation X is the generation that basically rejected formal work wear (once in a position to do so) and sees no problem with wearing shorts to work. They never stopped playing video games, role playing games, paintball, etc. They kept their baseball cards and their action figures. They watched and enjoyed Spongebob with their kids (or without kids).

I think this is the most definite thing that separates Generation X from previous. It's widespread, and it's a complete break.

This is true, I kind of alluded to that.

I think there is also an element to it that some members of older generations take some time coming to terms with the fact that the younger ones are adults now and they can no longer control them. I have a big family on my dad's side, he had 4 sisters and a brother. And it's interesting the different personalities of my aunt's and uncles. Some of them always treated me age appropriate but some of them treated me like I was a child even when I was in my 30's, married living in my own house with my own children.

Although I'm not sure how many of those things you are describing are really childish things. I would consider a few like Spongebob to be childish but I wouldn't consider video games or paintball to be childish.
 
Yep, it's super weird thinking about how I started my career, and wore ties every day, for just random office work. Obviously, there are still positions that require business dress, but now it's not much different from saying some position require hard hats. When I started my career, if you weren't working outside or over a fryer, you wore a tie, its just what you did.
I was required to wear a tie during residency, and usually had to wear a white coat. I immediately stopped that nonsense after graduation. After covid hit, I went to scrubs every day. I'm never going back to slacks and button ups. I haven't worn a white coat in 4 years.
 
I was required to wear a tie during residency, and usually had to wear a white coat. I immediately stopped that nonsense after graduation. After covid hit, I went to scrubs every day. I'm never going back to slacks and button ups. I haven't worn a white coat in 4 years.

Do you work in a hospital or a clinical setting?

Most docs in the hospital seem to wear scrubs but in clinical settings they usually wear button up shirts at least, maybe not necessarily a tie. I havn't noticed them wearing a white coat in a while.

Scrubs make the most sense to me as an outsider. Even in a clinical setting you might have to deal with some bodily fluids etc. Plus scrubs are I'm sure more comfortable.
 
Do you work in a hospital or a clinical setting?

Most docs in the hospital seem to wear scrubs but in clinical settings they usually wear button up shirts at least, maybe not necessarily a tie. I havn't noticed them wearing a white coat in a while.

Scrubs make the most sense to me as an outsider. Even in a clinical setting you might have to deal with some bodily fluids etc. Plus scrubs are I'm sure more comfortable.
Hospital only
 
Sounds like you are in a rural area that just doesn't have enough people to support the employers there. This is common among rural areas - people just don't want to live there.
This, along with indoor factory work and shift work. With the unemployment rate ~1.5% and a life style that honestly isn't for everyone, we need to open legal immigration opportunities for those seeking a better life and that are willing to work. As long as they being their house building crews with them. We're kinda short on those too.
 
It can if you are willing to accept the reduced standard of living.
People wanting more is why most go to work.
When I was still working my boss / owner said that anyone who got into our industry thinking it was a 40 hour work week was in the wrong business. Luckily I liked my job.
I’ve been “retired” for five years this month - got bored and took a part time no brainer job for three years. Retired again for a year and again super bored. I’m going to start looking for a little part timer this fall just to have something to do.
 
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the old saying goes" do something you love and you will never work a day in your life.
Alot of it depends on your goals too. If you think alot of material things will make you happy, go ahead and work yourself ragged. I've chosen to live simple and it's paid off.
 
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Fact checked to be accurate.

Just like all the complaints about the young people these days which are always the same going back to ancient Greece it seems like this nugget is as old as the hills. Because apparently the generations that won the west, won World War 1, Got through the great depression, won World War 2, the baby boomers and Gen X didn't want to work either. Greatest generation. . . So lazy millions of them took a 3 year vacation to Europe and Asia just to get out of work.
Glad this isn't the case with my team. We are all working non-stop. Maybe if I posted less, I'd not work as late, though. LOL My days are going on the 10-hour mark sans Fridays.
 
The only reason I'm working 60 hour weeks, is because nobody wants to work any more. We are down 25 people, 10%, and have been for quite some time. We hire some and lose others. If we get down to needing 19 it seems we lose several.
Your management team sucks ass and they are taking advantage of you when they are down that many people and aren’t doing anything about it. They are paralyzed by not knowing how to fix the problem or make any attempt to hire quality people to fill all the positions or some of them that they should look at and say, we have to have these positions filled as priority one then evaluate what positions you don’t have to have someone in that role.

After reading through the entire thread, maybe they don’t suck ass but aren’t doing anything that could help alleviate the problem. They should be contacting city officials to request assistance getting new employees to the job openings and into the community. They should be finding out if there are people they are re-locating, such as the afghans that are being moved into the US or people coming across the border. I just don’t understand management not doing anything, just sitting on their hands.
 
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The only reason I'm working 60 hour weeks, is because nobody wants to work any more. We are down 25 people, 10%, and have been for quite some time. We hire some and lose others. If we get down to needing 19 it seems we lose several.
This is how it got at my last job. People would leave, leadership would slow-play replacements and if stuff kept getting done, they’d ”lose” the position. Rinse and repeat. So, I said eff it this winter and planned my exit. I really enjoyed my job before management started messing with headcount (we were down 5 senior leaders and I was the only one left plus a number of key contributors)…..I was burning myself out and life is too short to mess up my life because they don’t give a bleep.

It’s not that nobody wants to work, it’s that people are finally realizing there are other options beyond telling corporate overlords, “Thank you, may I have another.”
 
This is related to something that always gives me a chuckle.

Every named "generation" gets labelled with some variation of the same description...

- Idealistic
- Not as focused on material things
- Wants to change the world for the better
- Doesn't want to work as hard
- Concerned with feelings
- soft
- rejecting the conformity of the previous generation(s)
- independent

That was applied to describe baby boomers, then Gen X, then Millennials, now Gen Z, etc.

Guess what...those describe all young people. We start describing generations when they hit young adulthood, and use variations on things that ALWAYS describe young people.

I'm absolutely certain that the parents of the Greatest Generation were bitching about how entitled and soft their kids were.

It's so dumb. Sweeping generalizations about generations are so dumb. I like talking about generational differences, but the real differences are way more prosaic. It's hard to find things that apply widely to any generation, and don't apply widely to previous generations.

I think about it a lot, and to me maybe the most defining characteristic of Gen X is that it is the first generation that never gave up childish things in behavior, interests, style, hobbies, etc. Generation X is the generation that basically rejected formal work wear (once in a position to do so) and sees no problem with wearing shorts to work. They never stopped playing video games, role playing games, paintball, etc. They kept their baseball cards and their action figures. They watched and enjoyed Spongebob with their kids (or without kids).

I think this is the most definite thing that separates Generation X from previous. It's widespread, and it's a complete break.
That’s what happens when we had so much autonomy by age 10.
 
Can't really force people to go to work for you. It is an at will State.
The point isn’t that they can’t force people to work for them, the point is that for whatever they’re paying and/or asking people to do and/or how they’re treating people, people don’t think the job is attractive.

If companies have jobs to fill and I want a job, I’m not just obligated to take what’s offered. If I can afford to look around and wait for something better, I’m not just going to take a crap offer. To that end, a lot of employers got away with pretty low pay at a lot of positions for a long time. Now that some people learned in the pandemic that they have more ability to step away or that they have a little more negotiating power, they’re using it. Good for them. Employers sure as sh1t use their power when they can.
 
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