No, we're not going to forget

[Joes Place]

Almost all countries in Europe(you know the liberal paradise we hear about on here all the time) we’re open by the summer of 2020. California didn’t open schools until the Fall of ‘21.

Even when Europe went into lockdown mode a bunch of times during 20-21 they still kept their schools open.

BECAUSE THEY WORE MASKS

Mahua Barve lives in Frankfurt, Germany, with her husband, a son in first grade and twin daughters in kindergarten. All three children are currently attending school full time and in person. That's despite a coronavirus surge that has led Germany to shut down restaurants, bars, theaters, gyms, tattoo parlors and brothels (which are legal in the country) for November. Schools were allowed to remain open.

Despite the resurgence of the virus, Barve says, her children's school's careful safety strategies give her confidence. Each "pod" of kids goes to recess at 10 minute intervals, for example, so they don't mix in the hallways.

"When I see all the parents who are coming to pick up and drop off, they're wearing masks. The teachers are always wearing masks. They're doing their best to minimize risk. And as soon as something is detected, they are quarantining."

Barve says everyone is doing their part: "It's a little bit of choppy water, but if people are swimming in their own lanes, there's less likelihood of a disturbance."

https://www.npr.org/2020/11/13/934153674/lessons-from-europe-where-cases-are-rising-but-schools-are-open

REMEMBER? YOU WOULDN'T ALLOW ANY OF THIS

 

[Joes Place]

Almost all countries in Europe(you know the liberal paradise we hear about on here all the time) we’re open by the summer of 2020. California didn’t open schools until the Fall of ‘21.

Even when Europe went into lockdown mode a bunch of times during 20-21 they still kept their schools open.

https://www.nytimes.com/2020/10/29/world/europe/schools-coronavirus-europe-lockdowns.this

In Germany, schools switched back to remote learning in mid-December as infection numbers soared, with a decision on the way forward due on Monday. And in Ireland and Spain, teachers’ unions and some local leaders are calling on federal governments to delay the return to school too.

https://www.cnn.com/2021/01/04/health/europe-school-closures-covid-19-gbr-intl/index.html

 

[KFsdisciple]

**** off and die

I haven’t seen anyone owned like this since before the Gettysburg Address

 

[KFsdisciple]

**** = jerk? That's a really strange request.

It’s not strange for Ron…

 

[hawkland14]

BECAUSE THEY WORE MASKS

Mahua Barve lives in Frankfurt, Germany, with her husband, a son in first grade and twin daughters in kindergarten. All three children are currently attending school full time and in person. That's despite a coronavirus surge that has led Germany to shut down restaurants, bars, theaters, gyms, tattoo parlors and brothels (which are legal in the country) for November. Schools were allowed to remain open.

Despite the resurgence of the virus, Barve says, her children's school's careful safety strategies give her confidence. Each "pod" of kids goes to recess at 10 minute intervals, for example, so they don't mix in the hallways.

"When I see all the parents who are coming to pick up and drop off, they're wearing masks. The teachers are always wearing masks. They're doing their best to minimize risk. And as soon as something is detected, they are quarantining."

Barve says everyone is doing their part: "It's a little bit of choppy water, but if people are swimming in their own lanes, there's less likelihood of a disturbance."

https://www.npr.org/2020/11/13/934153674/lessons-from-europe-where-cases-are-rising-but-schools-are-open

REMEMBER? YOU WOULDN'T ALLOW ANY OF THIS

Joe still supporting school closures which has been proven to be terrible terrible for the kids of our country. I’m not surprised.

School Closures Were a Failed Policy

America's pandemic learning losses are real. We need to see that reality clearly to do better next time.

www.theatlantic.com

 

[DeangeloVickers]

That’s just not true. Joe your credibility is zero after everyone saw how wrong you were over and over.

He doesn't care. It's why he and people like him can't be trusted on any topic.

 

[abby97]

He doesn't care. It's why he and people like him can't be trusted on any topic.

I think Joe is extremely dependable. If joe believes something and is passionate toward a topic, I know immediately that the opposite point of view is the correct one. Just know if Joe believes it, it is always incorrect.

 

[jonesy5960]

Almost all countries in Europe(you know the liberal paradise we hear about on here all the time) we’re open by the summer of 2020. California didn’t open schools until the Fall of ‘21.

Even when Europe went into lockdown mode a bunch of times during 20-21 they still kept their schools open.

https://www.nytimes.com/2020/10/29/world/europe/schools-coronavirus-europe-lockdowns.this

Can't open it. Schools got closed everywhere in the world. Longer in some places and less time in others. Arguing about the length of shutdowns is for political ideologues of which I am not. There was never any federally mandated shutdowns to the best of my knowledge. It was all relegated to the states. Shutdowns were longer in California and shorter in Texas. I don't know that it made that much of a difference.

 

[Pinehawk]

Closing schools didn’t make much of a difference in regards to the spread of the virus.
It made a huge negative difference in the lives of those kids and families however. Both socially and from an educational perspective.

 

[Jan Itor]

Closing schools didn’t make much of a difference in regards to the spread of the virus.
It made a huge negative difference in the lives of those kids and families however. Both socially and from an educational perspective.

I disagree with your first sentence. It most certainly reduced the spread, probably significantly.

But I agree, the impact it had on the kids and learning was much worse, IMO

 

[Joes Place]

Joe still supporting school closures

No; I have not supported school closures since the pandemic was in full force.

Go re-read how Europeans kept their schools open: THEY MASKED UP and DISTANCED to limit the spread.

Again, those are things YOU refused to do.

 

[naturalbornhawk]

 

[Joes Place]

Who TF is "Jimmy Dore"?
Just someone who told you something you wanted to hear?

 

[naturalbornhawk]

Yep.

 

[KFsdisciple]

Yep.

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The libs on this board haven’t changed their stances since then. They still believe the jabs are magical and not at all broken. They still believe that anyone who didn’t fall in line deserves to die, and they still believe in baby killing as medical autonomy but forced poisoning is okay.

 

[Joes Place]

The libs on this board haven’t changed their stances since then. They still believe the jabs are magical and not at all broken.

They are safe and effective.

Because that's what the data say.

 

[fsu1jreed]

Please dear baby Jesus.......

 

[KFsdisciple]

They are safe and effective.

Because that's what the data say.

Data can be manipulated to say whatever it NEEDS to say.

 

[fsu1jreed]

Data can be manipulated to say whatever it NEEDS to say.

Cognitive dissonance at its best folks

 

[naturalbornhawk]

They are safe and effective.

No, they're not.

 

[naturalbornhawk]

Cognitive dissonance at its best folks

You're right, you and Joe really are quite impressive!

 

[naturalbornhawk]

Cognitive dissonance at its best folks

As if data manipulation doesn't happen all the time.

 

[ironside1]

Data can be manipulated to say whatever it NEEDS to say.

Says all conspiracy theorists

 

[fsu1jreed]

As if data manipulation doesn't happen all the time.

No, you have no proof it's been manipulated, but you KNOW it has.....that cognitive dissonance at its finest

 

[Joes Place]

No, you have no proof it's been manipulated, but you KNOW it has.....that cognitive dissonance at its finest

And they cannot even elucidate WHICH vaccine they are talking about.

There are a half-dozen Covid vaccines out there now. Despite data showing differences among them, they are all "bad" according to the conspiracy theorists.

 

[naturalbornhawk]

No, you have no proof it's been manipulated, but you KNOW it has.....that cognitive dissonance at its finest

I have proof of the manipulation and have posted it, you just don't seem to care enough to look into it.

 

[Joes Place]

I have proof of the manipulation

No; you do not.

You've never posted anything of merit on the topic.

 

[naturalbornhawk]

Says all conspiracy theorists

The "conspiracy theorists" were right all along.

 

[Joes Place]

The "conspiracy theorists" were right all along.

No; they lied and lied about thimerosal.
They lied and lied about autism.

Now they're "on to the next one".

 

[naturalbornhawk]

No; you do not.

You've never posted anything of merit on the topic.

Go back and listen to the Vsafe data portion toward the end of Aaron Siri's testimony to the Arizona State Congress. He does a masterful job of explaining what they did to avoid capturing KNOWN vaccine injury in that system.

 

[naturalbornhawk]

No; they lied and lied about thimerosal.
They lied and lied about autism.

Now they're "on to the next one".

No, YOU lied about thimerosal and autism.

 

[Joes Place]

Go back and listen to the Vsafe data portion

VSafe is a data collection mechanism.

It is not a "database" to determine safety or efficacy from.

 

[Joes Place]

Go back and listen to the Vsafe data portion toward the end of Aaron Siri's testimony to the Arizona State Congress. He does a masterful job of explaining what they did to avoid capturing KNOWN vaccine injury in that system.

Post a transcript.

I ain't wasting time on "videos".

 

[naturalbornhawk]

It is not a "database" to determine safety or efficacy from.

You're so full of baloney.

So what you're saying is that Vsafe is not a database to be used to determine safety? It was specifically designed to review the safety of COVID 19 vaccines. 10 million users. Here let Aaron Siri clue you in on what Vsafe is. It starts @ 1:25:00:

AARON SIRI GIVES TESTIMONY TO THE ARIZONA STATE SENATE - The HighWire

Last week, Aaron Siri, the lead counsel for ICAN, delivered compelling testimony at the Arizona Novel COVID South Western Intergovernmental Committee (NCSWIC), an important platform dedicated to addressing the challenges and lessons learned from the COVID-19 pandemic, and charting a path forward.

thehighwire.com

Scandalous, isn't it?

You're even more delusional if you think I can easily find you a transcript of his testimony. Just listen to the vid, it's not that long.

 

[Joes Place]

You're so full of baloney.

So what you're saying is that Vsafe is not a database to be used to determine safety?

No

It is used to collect DATA

When "I turned into the Hulk" are entries, you have to understand that just because someone posts something there doesn't mean it is accurate, or real.

It's why they REVIEW and PARSE the data to sort out actual adverse events, and discard nonsense and unrelated issues.

 

[naturalbornhawk]

When "I turned into the Hulk" are entries,

I'm pretty sure that was VAERS.

It's why they REVIEW and PARSE the data to sort out actual adverse events, and discard nonsense and unrelated issues.

How are they going to review and parse data they purposefully didn't collect? The laundry list of diseases on the CDC's preliminary list of adverse events of special interest 2 months before the vaccine was rolled out, many of the same diseases on the list that was included on version 1 of the Vsafe design protocol? It was all left out of the finished product for a reason.

They knew these diseases were of special interest, yet left them and their symptoms off the data collection system entirely.

Scandalous.

 

[ironside1]

I'm pretty sure that was VAERS.


How are they going to review and parse data they purposefully didn't collect? The laundry list of diseases on the CDC's preliminary list of adverse events of special interest 2 months before the vaccine was rolled out, many of the same diseases on the list that was included on version 1 of the Vsafe design protocol? It was all left out of the finished product for a reason.

They knew these diseases were of special interest, yet left them and their symptoms off the data collection system entirely.

Scandalous.

You’re a kook.

 

[naturalbornhawk]

You’re a kook.

There is actually a part of me that actually feels bad for all you guys that fell for all this.

 

[ironside1]

There is actually a part of me that actually feels bad for all you guys that fell for all this.

You mean 99% of the medical community? They also still disagree with you.

 

[naturalbornhawk]

You mean 99% of the medical community? They also still disagree with you.

If that's actually true, then it's another great reason to stay as far away from them as possible.