Not my impression. I think everyone understands this. But it doesn't and shouldn't change the value of following the best science on vaccines.
No, we're not going to forget
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I think now we do (in hind sight), but not the focus in 2020.
Also, I'd use the "everyone" moniker very loosely...there are still idiots terrified of 5G and magnetism and others who think COVID itself was/is a lie.
I've made perfect sense.
If the vaccines created a problem in the military, the military hasn't made any indication that is the case. In fact, their sites and sources claim exactly the opposite.
VA sites continue to recommend vaccines and boosts. Consistent with the science that the complications from the vaccine are far lower than they are from the virus for those w/o protection.
Yes I know it features Fauci but RP explains it all quite well. Go watch and get educated and save us some time.
I get it Joe. You think this is all a complete fabrication:
Vaccines can do no wrong, government entities always tells the truth, and would always exhibit rapid transparency on all matters concerning the health and well being of our service personnel. How you could know that unequivocally is beyond impressive. Look at Camp Lejeune, for example.
Yeah, it was probably just how fit we are the determined who would live or die.
Ron Johnson can hardly be considered any credible reference on vaccines, or just about anything else.
Yeah....they post lots of nonsense videos there.
Like the one you just linked.
Is this a fake website too?
World's Largest Mortality Data Repository - Mortality Watch
We aggregate mortality data from muliple sources to generate daily updated mortality charts. Select from 120 countries and many different chart types.
www.usmortality.com
That link pretty much shows Covid deaths, yep.Is this a fake website too?
World's Largest Mortality Data Repository - Mortality Watch
We aggregate mortality data from muliple sources to generate daily updated mortality charts. Select from 120 countries and many different chart types.
And this?
Scroll down to 0-24yrs. I wonder what's causing that.
Deaths, Excess, Z-Scores, Maps, Historical - US Mortality Monitoring
See how COVID-19 affects All-Cause Mortality for the United States. Absolute number of deaths, percentage, excess deaths, z-scores, maps and historical data.
usmortality.com
Looks to me like the weekly deaths for the 0-24 yr age group are within the baseline levels now, post Covid.And this?
Scroll down to 0-24yrs. I wonder what's causing that.
Deaths, Excess, Z-Scores, Maps, Historical - US Mortality Monitoring
See how COVID-19 affects All-Cause Mortality for the United States. Absolute number of deaths, percentage, excess deaths, z-scores, maps and historical data.
You seem to be confused with "cumulative" data, which is adding in the past 2 years of excess deaths FROM Covid.
World's Largest Mortality Data Repository - Mortality Watch
We aggregate mortality data from muliple sources to generate daily updated mortality charts. Select from 120 countries and many different chart types.
www.usmortality.com
At the very end it levels off a bit in that age group, but still rising in that age group even in the post-COVID timeframe, and during mild Omicron. Other age groups are still rising at a rate similar to the COVID timeframe.
Striking Correlation Between Autumn Vaccine Boosters and Excess Deaths in England as Total Non-Covid Excess Tops 23,000 – The Daily Sceptic
A striking correlation has appeared between excess deaths and autumn Covid booster doses in England, raising new questions of safety as total non-Covid excess deaths hit 23,287 since April.
dailysceptic.org
And yet, your core claim, that "vaccines" are causing those increases, falls flat, because those increases were ALL during original Covid and Delta/Omicron. And now are reverting to the norms.
Even though we still have a significant portion of the population who refuses the vaccines.
I'll go with actual data you'd posted, vs some anti-vaxx site.Striking Correlation Between Autumn Vaccine Boosters and Excess Deaths in England as Total Non-Covid Excess Tops 23,000 – The Daily Sceptic
A striking correlation has appeared between excess deaths and autumn Covid booster doses in England, raising new questions of safety as total non-Covid excess deaths hit 23,287 since April.
What does the UK Healthy Ministry say?
Um, but they're not at all reverting to the norms in the majority of age groups. We're still increasing in rates similar to COVID in some cases, during mild omicron and long after the pandemic was declared over.
Striking Correlation Between Autumn Vaccine Boosters and Excess Deaths in England as Total Non-Covid Excess Tops 23,000 – The Daily Sceptic
A striking correlation has appeared between excess deaths and autumn Covid booster doses in England, raising new questions of safety as total non-Covid excess deaths hit 23,287 since April.
Actually, the "striking correlation" for the UK is "climate change" and massive summer heatwaves....
UKHSA and ONS release estimates of excess deaths during summer of 2022
A joint report by UKHSA and the Office for National Statistics (ONS) shows the effect of this summer’s record temperatures on excess mortality.
Interesting link. Thanks.And this?
Scroll down to 0-24yrs. I wonder what's causing that.
Deaths, Excess, Z-Scores, Maps, Historical - US Mortality Monitoring
See how COVID-19 affects All-Cause Mortality for the United States. Absolute number of deaths, percentage, excess deaths, z-scores, maps and historical data.
I particularly liked the graphs showing "Age-Adjusted Mortality" with and without COVID deaths, on this page. The graphs are the 2nd and 3rd ones on the left (they won't paste here for me).
World's Largest Mortality Data Repository - Mortality Watch
We aggregate mortality data from muliple sources to generate daily updated mortality charts. Select from 120 countries and many different chart types.
www.usmortality.com
It's hilarious that you automatically rule out vaccines, as if you know without a doubt they can't possibly be the cause.Actually, the "striking correlation" for the UK is "climate change" and massive summer heatwaves....
UKHSA and ONS release estimates of excess deaths during summer of 2022
A joint report by UKHSA and the Office for National Statistics (ONS) shows the effect of this summer’s record temperatures on excess mortality.www.gov.uk
Why?
There's literally nothing in any of the graphs which would point to them.
If "vaccines" were a driver, you would expect a large spike over the timeframes they've been delivered, which simply is not in the data.
'Member those times that Covid was preventing people from access to ERs and hospitals for care? And that people were warning folks to "mask up" to prevent hospital overloads which would lead to unnecessary deaths?
I 'member!!!
Not necessarily. Why are you assuming the death timeframe would be acute, let alone the same for everyone? Vaccine caused deaths could easily be hidden in these charts.
They are gullible rubes..like many in this thread
So are the deaths due to 5G. When will we get answers?
No, "vaccine cause deaths" cannot be hidden in these charts.
There's nowhere to hide them. Because if they've been distributed as widely as observed (and as you claim), there'd be deaths everywhere.
And, as already noted for you, as the last Covid wave is dropping, the mortality rates are shifting back into baseline regions. That's the data YOU linked.
Dude, logic doesn't work with antivaxxers....they just feel that it's bad
Didn’t watch your video, but if they are hiding something how does this guy know about it?
Brilliant analysis. You're losing it Joe.
But, as I said before, the the data ISN'T indicating a move back to baseline for many of the age groups.
Losing what?
I've cited the data you posted. It does not show what you want it to show.
So it seems all those VAERS injuries may be legit and the root cause appears to be (checks notes).........anti-vax disinformation causing constriction of the arteries. Not a joke.
Where would we be without the science?!?
Covid 19 vaccines and the misinterpretation of perceived side effects clarity on the safety of vaccines - PMC
In the era of Covid 19 and mass vaccination programs, the anti-vaccination movement across the world is currently at an all-time high. Much of this anti-vaccination sentiment could be attributed to the alleged side effects that are perpetuated ...
www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov
Oh wow this is priceless. What BS.So it seems all those VAERS injuries may be legit and the root cause appears to be (checks notes).........anti-vax disinformation causing constriction of the arteries. Not a joke.
Where would we be without the science?!?
Covid 19 vaccines and the misinterpretation of perceived side effects clarity on the safety of vaccines - PMC
In the era of Covid 19 and mass vaccination programs, the anti-vaccination movement across the world is currently at an all-time high. Much of this anti-vaccination sentiment could be attributed to the alleged side effects that are perpetuated ...
