Non conf. schedules in the big 10 vs SEC, Big 12

[renkHawk]

The big 10 is scheduling the most difficult non-conf games and it ain't even close. Took out the direction schools, the "Lamars", and other such riffraff.

The question is who's not scheduling who? I have a feeling since the SEC and Big 12 moved to a 9 game conf. format, they stopped scheduling tougher non-conf teams b/c they believe their season is tough enough.

Big 10:
Top 25:
W - NW / Stanford
L - Mich / Utah
L - Wisc / Alabama
L - Minn / TCU
L - Ill / North Carolina

Top 50:
W - Mich / BYU
W - Iowa / Pitt
W - NW / Duke
W - OSU / VTech
W - Msu / Oregon
W - Ind / Western Kentucky
L - PSU / Temple
L - Maryland / West Virginia
L - Nebby / BYU
L - Nebby / Miami (fl)
L - Purdue / VTech
L - Rutgers / Wash State

Other Power 5 :
W - Mich / Oregon State
W - Iowa / ISU
W - Rutgers / Kansas
W - Ind / Wake Forest


SEC:
Top 25
W - South Carolina / North Carolina
W - Alabama / Wisc

Top 50
L - Tenn / Oklahoma
W - LSU / Western Kentucky
L - Vandy / Western Kentucky
? - Mizz / BYU
L - Ole Miss / Memphis
L - Ark / Tex Tech

Other Power 5:
W - Mizz / UConn
W - LSU / Syracuse
W - AM / Arizona State
W - Auburn / Louisville

Big 12:
Top 25:
L - Tex / N Dame
L - ISU / Iowa

Top 50:
W - Oklahoma / Tenn
W - Tex Tech / Ark
L - Tex / Cal
L - ISU / Tol
L - Kansas / Memphis

Other power 5:
L - Kansas / Rutgers
W - TCU / Minn
W - WVU / Maryland

 

[hwk23]

So, somebody ought to forward this to Colin Cowherd. I see two better OOC wins than Pitt in the entire SEC (North Carolina and Wiscy) and only 3 better opponents scheduled in the entire SEC (North Carolina, Wiscy and Oklahoma).

I count a grand total of 8 power 5 OOC teams scheduled in the entire SEC. Western Kentucky and Memphis aren't power 5, even though they are having good years. BYU is an independent.

The Big 12 OOC schedule is pretty weak, especially TCU, Baylor and Okie State. Okie State scheduled Centr. Michigan, Central Arkansas and UTSA.

Sheesh and folks like Cowherd are complaining about Iowa's OOC schedule

 

[renkHawk]

So, somebody ought to forward this to Colin Cowherd. I see two better OOC wins than Pitt in the entire SEC (North Carolina and Wiscy) and only 3 better opponents scheduled in the entire SEC (North Carolina, Wiscy and Oklahoma).

I count a grand total of 8 power 5 OOC teams scheduled in the entire SEC. Western Kentucky and Memphis aren't power 5, even though they are having good years. BYU is an independent.

The Big 12 OOC schedule is pretty weak, especially TCU, Baylor and Okie State. Okie State scheduled Centr. Michigan, Central Arkansas and UTSA.

Sheesh and folks like Cowherd are complaining about Iowa's OOC schedule

Yeah, I went with sagarin rankings I did this fairly quickly but I think I got them all.

 

[Hawk-A-Doodle-Doo]

With an exception here or there, the 5 "big dogs" in the SEC year in and year out for the past 10 years have been Alabama, LSU, Florida, Auburn, and Georgia. Let's look at their non-conf scheduling over that span (with Power 5 teams in bold).

Alabama
2006 - Hawaii, Louisiana Monroe, Duke, Florida International
2007 - Western Carolina, Florida State, Houston, Louisiana Monroe
2008 - Clemson, Tulane, Western Kentucky, Arkansas State
2009 - Virginia Tech, Florida International, North Texas, Tennessee Chattanooga - (BCS Champions)
2010 - San Jose State, Penn State, Duke, Georgia State
2011 - Kent State, Penn State, North Texas, Georgia Southern - (BCS Champions)
2012 - Michigan, Western Kentucky, Florida Atlantic, Western Carolina - (BCS Champions)
2013 - Virginia Tech, Colorado State, Georgia State, Tennessee Chattanooga
2014 - West Virginia, Florida Atlantic, Southern Miss, Western Carolina - (Made CFP Playoffs)
2015 - Wisconsin, Middle Tennessee, Louisiana Monroe, Charleston Southern - (Currently ranked in Top 4 of CFP)

Florida
2006 - So. Miss, Central Florida, Western Carolina, FSU - (BCS Champions)
2007 - Western Kentucky, Troy, Florida Atlantic, FSU
2008 - Hawaii, Miami(FL), Citadel, FSU - (BCS Champions)
2009 - Charleston Southern, Troy, Florida International, FSU
2010 - Miami(OH), South Florida, Appalachian State, FSU
2011 - Florida Atlantic, Alabama Birmingham, Furman, FSU
2012 - Bowling Green, Louisiana Lafayette, Jacksonville State, FSU
2013 - Toledo, Miami(FL), Georgia Southern, FSU
2014 - Idaho, Eastern Michigan, Eastern Kentucky, FSU
2015 - New Mexico St., East Carolina, Florida Atlantic, FSU

LSU
2006 -Louisiana Lafayette, Arizona, Tulane, Fresno State
2007 - Virginia Tech, Middle Tennessee, Tulane, Louisiana Tech - (BCS Champions)
2008 - Appalachian State, North Texas, Tulane, Troy
2009 - Washington, Louisiana Lafayette, Tulane, Louisiana Tech
2010 - North Carolina, West Virginia, McNeese State, Louisiana Monroe
2011 - Oregon, Northwestern State, West Virginia, Western Kentucky
2012 - North Texas, Washington, Idaho, Towson - (BCS Runner-Up)
2013 - TCU, Alabama Birmingham, Kent State, Furman
2014 - Wisconsin, Sam Houston St., Louisiana Monroe, New Mexico State
2015 - McNeese State, Syracuse, Western Kentucky, Eastern Michigan

Georgia
2006 - Western Kentucky, Alabama Birmingham, Colorado, Georgia Tech
2007 - Oklahoma St., Western Carolina, Troy, Ga Tech
2008 - Georgia Southern, Central Michigan, Arizona State, Ga Tech
2009 - Oklahoma St., Arizona State, Tennessee Tech, Ga Tech
2010 - Louisiana Lafayette, Colorado, Idaho State, Ga Tech
2011 - Boise St., Coastal Carolina, New Mexico State Ga Tech
2012 - Buffalo, Florida Atlantic, Georgia Southern, Ga Tech
2013 - Clemson, North Texas, Appalachian State, Ga Tech
2014 - Clemson, Troy, Charleston Southern, Ga Tech
2015 - Louisiana Monroe, Southern, Georgia Southern, Ga Tech

Auburn
2006 - Washington State, Buffalo, Tulane, Arkansas State
2007 - Kansas State, South Florida, New Mexico State, Tennessee Tech
2008 - Louisiana Monroe, Southern Miss, West Virginia, Tennessee Martin
2009 - Louisiana Tech, West Virginia, Ball State, Furman
2010 - Arkansas State, Clemson, Louisiana Monroe, Tennessee Chattanooga - (BCS Champions)
2011 - Utah State, Clemson, Florida Atlantic, Samford
2012 - Clemson, Louisiana Monroe, New Mexico State, Alabama A&M
2013 - Washington State, Arkansas State, Western Carolina, Florida Atlantic - (BCS Runner-Up)
2014 - San Jose State, Kansas State, Louisiana Tech, Samford
2015 - Louisville, Jacksonville State, San Jose State, Idaho

Not quite the complete murderer's row that it has been portrayed as, now is it? If you focus on just the Power 5's, it's reasonable. But look at the rest? Where are all of the other incredible non-conference challenges that the rigorous SEC schools unilaterally impose upon themselves? Nowhere to be found....that's where. But props to Georgia. They definitely take the cake in the SEC when it comes to scheduling multiple Power 5 opponents. Only 13 times in this 10 year span has an SEC big dog's schedule included more than 1 Power 5 team...and Georgia owns SEVEN of them.

 

[storyhawkeye]

With an exception here or there, the 5 "big dogs" in the SEC year in and year out for the past 10 years have been Alabama, LSU, Florida, Auburn, and Georgia. Let's look at their non-conf scheduling over that span (with Power 5 teams in bold).

Alabama
2006 - Hawaii, Louisiana Monroe, Duke, Florida International
2007 - Western Carolina, Florida State, Houston, Louisiana Monroe
2008 - Clemson, Tulane, Western Kentucky, Arkansas State
2009 - Virginia Tech, Florida International, North Texas, Tennessee Chattanooga - (BCS Champions)
2010 - San Jose State, Penn State, Duke, Georgia State
2011 - Kent State, Penn State, North Texas, Georgia Southern - (BCS Champions)
2012 - Michigan, Western Kentucky, Florida Atlantic, Western Carolina - (BCS Champions)
2013 - Virginia Tech, Colorado State, Georgia State, Tennessee Chattanooga
2014 - West Virginia, Florida Atlantic, Southern Miss, Western Carolina - (Made CFP Playoffs)
2015 - Wisconsin, Middle Tennessee, Louisiana Monroe, Charleston Southern - (Currently ranked in Top 4 of CFP)

Florida
2006 - So. Miss, Central Florida, Western Carolina, FSU - (BCS Champions)
2007 - Western Kentucky, Troy, Florida Atlantic, FSU
2008 - Hawaii, Miami(FL), Citadel, FSU - (BCS Champions)
2009 - Charleston Southern, Troy, Florida International, FSU
2010 - Miami(OH), South Florida, Appalachian State, FSU
2011 - Florida Atlantic, Alabama Birmingham, Furman, FSU
2012 - Bowling Green, Louisiana Lafayette, Jacksonville State, FSU
2013 - Toledo, Miami(FL), Georgia Southern, FSU
2014 - Idaho, Eastern Michigan, Eastern Kentucky, FSU
2015 - New Mexico St., East Carolina, Florida Atlantic, FSU

LSU
2006 -Louisiana Lafayette, Arizona, Tulane, Fresno State
2007 - Virginia Tech, Middle Tennessee, Tulane, Louisiana Tech - (BCS Champions)
2008 - Appalachian State, North Texas, Tulane, Troy
2009 - Washington, Louisiana Lafayette, Tulane, Louisiana Tech
2010 - North Carolina, West Virginia, McNeese State, Louisiana Monroe
2011 - Oregon, Northwestern State, West Virginia, Western Kentucky
2012 - North Texas, Washington, Idaho, Towson - (BCS Runner-Up)
2013 - TCU, Alabama Birmingham, Kent State, Furman
2014 - Wisconsin, Sam Houston St., Louisiana Monroe, New Mexico State
2015 - McNeese State, Syracuse, Western Kentucky, Eastern Michigan

Georgia
2006 - Western Kentucky, Alabama Birmingham, Colorado, Georgia Tech
2007 - Oklahoma St., Western Carolina, Troy, Ga Tech
2008 - Georgia Southern, Central Michigan, Arizona State, Ga Tech
2009 - Oklahoma St., Arizona State, Tennessee Tech, Ga Tech
2010 - Louisiana Lafayette, Colorado, Idaho State, Ga Tech
2011 - Boise St., Coastal Carolina, New Mexico State Ga Tech
2012 - Buffalo, Florida Atlantic, Georgia Southern, Ga Tech
2013 - Clemson, North Texas, Appalachian State, Ga Tech
2014 - Clemson, Troy, Charleston Southern, Ga Tech
2015 - Louisiana Monroe, Southern, Georgia Southern, Ga Tech

Auburn
2006 - Washington State, Buffalo, Tulane, Arkansas State
2007 - Kansas State, South Florida, New Mexico State, Tennessee Tech
2008 - Louisiana Monroe, Southern Miss, West Virginia, Tennessee Martin
2009 - Louisiana Tech, West Virginia, Ball State, Furman
2010 - Arkansas State, Clemson, Louisiana Monroe, Tennessee Chattanooga - (BCS Champions)
2011 - Utah State, Clemson, Florida Atlantic, Samford
2012 - Clemson, Louisiana Monroe, New Mexico State, Alabama A&M
2013 - Washington State, Arkansas State, Western Carolina, Florida Atlantic - (BCS Runner-Up)
2014 - San Jose State, Kansas State, Louisiana Tech, Samford
2015 - Louisville, Jacksonville State, San Jose State, Idaho

Not quite the complete murderer's row that it has been portrayed as, now is it? If you focus on just the Power 5's, it's reasonable. But look at the rest? Where are all of the other incredible non-conference challenges that the rigorous SEC schools unilaterally impose upon themselves? Nowhere to be found....that's where. But props to Georgia. They definitely take the cake in the SEC when it comes to scheduling multiple Power 5 opponents. Only 13 times in this 10 year span has an SEC big dog's schedule included more than 1 Power 5 team...and Georgia owns SEVEN of them.

THANK YOU!

 

[DavenportHawk8]

Come on guys we all know they schedule soft because of their tough conference. They can't dare play one tough team in the non-conf because they have 6-7 games vs TOP competition in the SEC.

 

[ICWestfan]

Christ, someone should forward this to the CFP committee.

 

[renkHawk]

Come on guys we all know they schedule soft because of their tough conference. They can't dare play one tough team in the non-conf because they have 6-7 games vs TOP competition in the SEC.

If you look at the big 12, there are only 4 teams above .500.

 

[hwk23]

Is it true that Baylor hasn't played anybody, not a single team, above .500 yet? In comparison to Baylor, TCU and Okie State, Iowa's schedule, especially the OOC schedule, has been murderer's row.

 

[FloridaHawk82]

 

[Hawkfan_08]

This is great. Good information!

 

[FloridaHawk82]

With an exception here or there, the 5 "big dogs" in the SEC year in and year out for the past 10 years have been Alabama, LSU, Florida, Auburn, and Georgia. Let's look at their non-conf scheduling over that span (with Power 5 teams in bold).

Alabama
2006 - Hawaii, Louisiana Monroe, Duke, Florida International
2007 - Western Carolina, Florida State, Houston, Louisiana Monroe
2008 - Clemson, Tulane, Western Kentucky, Arkansas State
2009 - Virginia Tech, Florida International, North Texas, Tennessee Chattanooga - (BCS Champions)
2010 - San Jose State, Penn State, Duke, Georgia State
2011 - Kent State, Penn State, North Texas, Georgia Southern - (BCS Champions)
2012 - Michigan, Western Kentucky, Florida Atlantic, Western Carolina - (BCS Champions)
2013 - Virginia Tech, Colorado State, Georgia State, Tennessee Chattanooga
2014 - West Virginia, Florida Atlantic, Southern Miss, Western Carolina - (Made CFP Playoffs)
2015 - Wisconsin, Middle Tennessee, Louisiana Monroe, Charleston Southern - (Currently ranked in Top 4 of CFP)

Florida
2006 - So. Miss, Central Florida, Western Carolina, FSU - (BCS Champions)
2007 - Western Kentucky, Troy, Florida Atlantic, FSU
2008 - Hawaii, Miami(FL), Citadel, FSU - (BCS Champions)
2009 - Charleston Southern, Troy, Florida International, FSU
2010 - Miami(OH), South Florida, Appalachian State, FSU
2011 - Florida Atlantic, Alabama Birmingham, Furman, FSU
2012 - Bowling Green, Louisiana Lafayette, Jacksonville State, FSU
2013 - Toledo, Miami(FL), Georgia Southern, FSU
2014 - Idaho, Eastern Michigan, Eastern Kentucky, FSU
2015 - New Mexico St., East Carolina, Florida Atlantic, FSU

LSU
2006 -Louisiana Lafayette, Arizona, Tulane, Fresno State
2007 - Virginia Tech, Middle Tennessee, Tulane, Louisiana Tech - (BCS Champions)
2008 - Appalachian State, North Texas, Tulane, Troy
2009 - Washington, Louisiana Lafayette, Tulane, Louisiana Tech
2010 - North Carolina, West Virginia, McNeese State, Louisiana Monroe
2011 - Oregon, Northwestern State, West Virginia, Western Kentucky
2012 - North Texas, Washington, Idaho, Towson - (BCS Runner-Up)
2013 - TCU, Alabama Birmingham, Kent State, Furman
2014 - Wisconsin, Sam Houston St., Louisiana Monroe, New Mexico State
2015 - McNeese State, Syracuse, Western Kentucky, Eastern Michigan

Georgia
2006 - Western Kentucky, Alabama Birmingham, Colorado, Georgia Tech
2007 - Oklahoma St., Western Carolina, Troy, Ga Tech
2008 - Georgia Southern, Central Michigan, Arizona State, Ga Tech
2009 - Oklahoma St., Arizona State, Tennessee Tech, Ga Tech
2010 - Louisiana Lafayette, Colorado, Idaho State, Ga Tech
2011 - Boise St., Coastal Carolina, New Mexico State Ga Tech
2012 - Buffalo, Florida Atlantic, Georgia Southern, Ga Tech
2013 - Clemson, North Texas, Appalachian State, Ga Tech
2014 - Clemson, Troy, Charleston Southern, Ga Tech
2015 - Louisiana Monroe, Southern, Georgia Southern, Ga Tech

Auburn
2006 - Washington State, Buffalo, Tulane, Arkansas State
2007 - Kansas State, South Florida, New Mexico State, Tennessee Tech
2008 - Louisiana Monroe, Southern Miss, West Virginia, Tennessee Martin
2009 - Louisiana Tech, West Virginia, Ball State, Furman
2010 - Arkansas State, Clemson, Louisiana Monroe, Tennessee Chattanooga - (BCS Champions)
2011 - Utah State, Clemson, Florida Atlantic, Samford
2012 - Clemson, Louisiana Monroe, New Mexico State, Alabama A&M
2013 - Washington State, Arkansas State, Western Carolina, Florida Atlantic - (BCS Runner-Up)
2014 - San Jose State, Kansas State, Louisiana Tech, Samford
2015 - Louisville, Jacksonville State, San Jose State, Idaho

Not quite the complete murderer's row that it has been portrayed as, now is it? If you focus on just the Power 5's, it's reasonable. But look at the rest? Where are all of the other incredible non-conference challenges that the rigorous SEC schools unilaterally impose upon themselves? Nowhere to be found....that's where. But props to Georgia. They definitely take the cake in the SEC when it comes to scheduling multiple Power 5 opponents. Only 13 times in this 10 year span has an SEC big dog's schedule included more than 1 Power 5 team...and Georgia owns SEVEN of them.

GREAT info here, and from the OP! Piggybacking on the above, by my count, the "Big 5" SEC teams listed here played 61 Power 5 teams out of their 200 OOC Games from 2006-2015, which is 30.5% of their games VS Power 5.

Iowa played 18 Power 5 teams out of their 40 OOC Games from 2006-2015, which is 45% of their games VS Power 5.

Iowa 2006-15 OOC Power 5 Opponents:
ISU 10
Pitt 4
Arizona 2
Syracuse 2

 

[ROCKY MOUNTAIN HAWK]

To many facts in this thread! Making my mind hurt after a long day of thinking at work. I need to dumb it down and ease into the night. What channel is ESPN anyway?

 

[Hawk and Awe]

It's not about facts guys - it's the eye test. Everybody Baylors played is under 500 because they've been beat up by everyone Baylor hasn't played. Everyone Baylor hasn't played is great because they say so.

 

[Birky]

In defense of the Big 12, all of their teams are playing 9 conference games, but the comparisons to the SEC are legit.

 

[HawkeyeGold]

All of this duly noted, I do hope we step up play some people despite the 9 game conference schedule. While Cowturd has blown things way out of proportion, it is equally true that some other schools (Wisc to name one) have been more proactive about scheduling quality OOC games. I would rather average .5 more losses a season in the future and see some games against upper to top level P5 opponents.

 

[hawkeyeharv]

Think about why Coward said what he said on his show... What channel is he on? Fox Sports 1... which plays only Big 12 and Pac 12 Games... Of course he has to go after Iowa he is campaigning for his sports channel. That's why he was such an SEC lover before he got canned by ESPN... The guy is a douche and his arguments are laughable. Stick to the facts buddy. And get your sh*t straight!!

GO HAWKS!!!!!!!

 

[blackgoldorangewhite]

Missing from the original post:

Georgia / Georgia Tech
South Carolina / Clemson
Florida / Florida State
Kentucky / Louisville

SEC:
Top 25
W - South Carolina / North Carolina
W - Alabama / Wisc

Top 50
L - Tenn / Oklahoma
W - LSU / Western Kentucky
L - Vandy / Western Kentucky
? - Mizz / BYU
L - Ole Miss / Memphis
L - Ark / Tex Tech

Other Power 5:
W - Mizz / UConn
W - LSU / Syracuse
W - AM / Arizona State
W - Auburn / Louisville

 

[HerkyFan]

Someday the Big 12 will play defense also. Will that stop the myths? Nope not at all.

 

[hwk23]

The big 10 is scheduling the most difficult non-conf games and it ain't even close. Took out the direction schools, the "Lamars", and other such riffraff.

The question is who's not scheduling who? I have a feeling since the SEC and Big 12 moved to a 9 game conf. format, they stopped scheduling tougher non-conf teams b/c they believe their season is tough enough.

Big 10:
Top 25:
W - NW / Stanford
L - Mich / Utah
L - Wisc / Alabama
L - Minn / TCU
L - Ill / North Carolina

Top 50:
W - Mich / BYU
W - Iowa / Pitt
W - NW / Duke
W - OSU / VTech
W - Msu / Oregon
W - Ind / Western Kentucky
L - PSU / Temple
L - Maryland / West Virginia
L - Nebby / BYU
L - Nebby / Miami (fl)
L - Purdue / VTech
L - Rutgers / Wash State

Other Power 5 :
W - Mich / Oregon State
W - Iowa / ISU
W - Rutgers / Kansas
W - Ind / Wake Forest


SEC:
Top 25
W - South Carolina / North Carolina
W - Alabama / Wisc

Top 50
L - Tenn / Oklahoma
W - LSU / Western Kentucky
L - Vandy / Western Kentucky
? - Mizz / BYU
L - Ole Miss / Memphis
L - Ark / Tex Tech

Other Power 5:
W - Mizz / UConn
W - LSU / Syracuse
W - AM / Arizona State
W - Auburn / Louisville

Big 12:
Top 25:
L - Tex / N Dame
L - ISU / Iowa

Top 50:
W - Oklahoma / Tenn
W - Tex Tech / Ark
L - Tex / Cal
L - ISU / Tol
L - Kansas / Memphis

Other power 5:
L - Kansas / Rutgers
W - TCU / Minn
W - WVU / Maryland

Slight correction, Western Kentucky is not in the top 50 (#53 in Sagarin) so that's two less "quality opponents" for the SEC.