Not a great night …

[JerseyCityHawki]

I found this interesting and I think if Iowa loses to UCLA they’re in even more deep do do…

1. 11 Teams in the Projected Field (by Overall Seed): 13. Oregon, 14. Michigan State, 15. Michigan, 16. Illinois, 22. Purdue, 24. Wisconsin, 33. Maryland, 36. UCLA, 39. Nebraska, 40. Iowa, 42. Ohio State
   Also Considered: Indiana
   Biggest Change: Greetings, Hawkeyes
   For the first time all season, the Iowa Hawkeyes have found their way into the projected field, albeit, with the type of bubble resume that can make a bracketologist's blood boil: zero great wins, but good enough metrics and zero bad losses.
   Iowa did pick up two nice wins this past week, both at home. The Hawkeyes rallied from a 15-point second-half deficit to beat Nebraska in overtime, and then they smoked a bubble-y Indiana team by a final score of 85-60.
   They are now 5-0 vs. Quad 2, which is quite commendable. There are only 18 teams in the country with more wins against the top two Quads than the Hawkeyes have.
   But they're winless against Quad 1 in four tries, including a 31-point loss to Wisconsin, and the only other seven games on their schedule were all Quad 4 wins by an average margin of 29 points.
   All of a sudden, though, their metrics look great.
   When I pulled resume data last Sunday, Iowa was not top 45 in any of the seven metrics, and was in fact 70th in KPI. But now? Ranking 52nd in NET is the only one in which the Hawkeyes aren't in the top 45, all the way up to No. 43 in KPI.
   Behold, the power of trouncing a decent opponent by 25 points.
   Can they now survive the dreaded West Coast road trip, though?
   If the games don't get postponed due to the wildfires in California, the Hawkeyes are supposed to play at USC on Tuesday and at UCLA on Friday. And with nary a Quad 1 win to their credit, getting swept on that road trip would be a devastating blow to their case for a bid. (However, a win at UCLA would be massive.)

 

[mizzy2442]

UCLA has lost 4 in a row…we are the perfect medicine for that.

 

[HawkBall23]

UCLA has lost 4 in a row…we are the perfect medicine for that.

Sad because you couldn't be more right.

Whatever UCLA does for 3pt shooting normally, it won't matter because they'll have their best shooting performance of the season on Friday night.

UCLA fans have to be expecting their team to hit 100, after Iowa's last 2 road 'showings'.

 

[Bank of Hawk]

One thing for sure, UCLA will score 85+ but can Iowa out score them?

 

[Hendy hawk]

UCLA has lost 4 in a row…we are the perfect medicine for that.

Sadly.

 

[stanzithemanzi12]

Friday night game is going to be tough to win @UCLA. It's a must win for them to save their season. It's pretty close to a must win for us too.

 

[fivecardstud14]

Friday night game is going to be tough to win @UCLA. It's a must win for them to save their season. It's pretty close to a must win for us too.

I thought the final 7:00 of the Nebraska game was the make or break point according to you?

 

[stanzithemanzi12]

I thought the final 7:00 of the Nebraska game was the make or break point according to you?

It was a make or break. But the win extended the interest only payments on the line of credit a bit longer is all. A loss and the bank was foreclosing.

 

[HawkeyeGenius]

Need to hire Dr. Tom back. Program has been cursed since forcing him out.

 

[hawkirugged17]

Need to hire Dr. Tom back. Program has been cursed since forcing him out.

Bring them both back!

 

[jonesy5960]

Bring them both back!

I vote yes! That way I won't be subjected to any more Jess Settles TV work.

 

[the notorious r.d.m.]

Friday night game is going to be tough to win @UCLA. It's a must win for them to save their season. It's pretty close to a must win for us too.

In the grand scheme of the B1G season leaving LA 1-1 is good. I stay bullish on Fran since he finds ways to stay at least .500 to keep the bubble dream alive. We're going to see 2 teams Friday desperate for a win. I think it's a must win game for Iowa.

 

[BrewHawk]

I vote yes! That way I won't be subjected to any more Jess Settles TV work.

But...he's elite!

 

[General Tso]

 

[EvilMonkeyInTheCloset]

Do you people really want this particular Iowa team in the NCAA Tournament, other than SOLELY just to say "told you so" to people who didn't expect them to make it?..................


I didn't think so, either.

 

[Rifler]

I don't really get concerned about the NCAA tournament,.. For me it's more about conference play.

 

[hawkjt]

Do you people really want this particular Iowa team in the NCAA Tournament, other than SOLELY just to say "told you so" to people who didn't expect them to make it?..................


I didn't think so, either.

Clearly you get no enjoyment from Iowa BB winning because in order to make the tourney the Hawks will need at least 8+ more wins.
I enjoy Hawks winning more games.
That's the object of the exercise.

Obviously you relish Iowa losing because you despise hearing hawk fans support their coach and team
Strange attitude.

 

[fivecardstud14]

Do you people really want this particular Iowa team in the NCAA Tournament, other than SOLELY just to say "told you so" to people who didn't expect them to make it?..................


I didn't think so, either.

Yes, I want my team to participate in the NCAA Tournament.

 

[Obviously Oblivious]

Sad because you couldn't be more right.

Whatever UCLA does for 3pt shooting normally, it won't matter because they'll have their best shooting performance of the season on Friday night.

UCLA fans have to be expecting their team to hit 100, after Iowa's last 2 road 'showings'.

^This!

It will be like our football team's trip to UCLA this last season. Going into that game UCLA couldn't stop the run and couldn't generate a running attack of their own. They proceed to completely shut down our entire running game and their running offense explodes in our faces, the exact opposite of everyone's expectations and a resulting miserable loss.

I hope I'm wrong about the MBB team and they can grab another road win instead.

 

[danny14]

For those who have watched all the games this year, has Fran shown any of his usual game fire? He seems to be a little disconnected or disinterested on the sidelines this year. Has he lost some of his intensity or motivation since his sons are no longer playing for him? He appears like a guy just playing out the season, however he seems to be recruiting as hard as ever and interested in the future teams.

 

[DewHawk]

For those who have watched all the games this year, has Fran shown any of his usual game fire? He seems to be a little disconnected or disinterested on the sidelines this year. Has he lost some of his intensity or motivation since his sons are no longer playing for him? He appears like a guy just playing out the season, however he seems to be recruiting as hard as ever and interested in the future teams.

Yes, it has appeared all season that he is a bit disconnected. Hopefully because this is his last year, but JMO.

 

[DewHawk]

Just found this on FB:
So Frans teams are 11-64 when allowing 85 points or more since he started at Iowa for a whopping 17% winning percentage...at what point does he think " huh, maybe a little defense improves our chances of winning"

 

[HawkLogic]

Clearly you get no enjoyment from Iowa BB winning because in order to make the tourney the Hawks will need at least 8+ more wins.
I enjoy Hawks winning more games.
That's the object of the exercise.

Obviously you relish Iowa losing because you despise hearing hawk fans support their coach and team
Strange attitude.

There were similar posts to yours about fans calling for Licklter to be fired. Turned out firing Lick was the right move. Letting FRan Fade into the sunset seems like the right move now. Whether he goes out with a bang like Tom Davis seems unlikely, but would be well appreciated.

I'm expecting a 10-10 season in B1G, probably another year with 1st round loss in BTT to a lower seed. If they get to NCAA tourney, Fran's 6-12 NcAA career record suggest 33% chance of winning 1st game. His 28 years of zero ncaa's Sweet16's suggest winning 2 games is unlikely.

I'd prefer they get to NCAA tornament, half of the teams form B1G will do so. Not a high bar.

It's not that big a deal whether they make the NcAA and lose in 1st game vs they don't make it and end up an NIT team and lose 1st game. That was last year's outcome. At some point statistical trends/long term trends give people a good picture of what to expect.

 

[HawkBall23]

^This!

It will be like our football team's trip to UCLA this last season. Going into that game UCLA couldn't stop the run and couldn't generate a running attack of their own. They proceed to completely shut down our entire running game and their running offense explodes in our faces, the exact opposite of everyone's expectations and a resulting miserable loss.

I hope I'm wrong about the MBB team and they can grab another road win instead.

Another?! Gotta win one first before can win another.

 

[danny14]

I don't think Iowa is a great team, but I do think they could be scary on a weekend in the tournament because they can shoot the ball. Tournaments are about getting hot at the right time and putting together a couple good games. Iowa is capable of this type of weekend. They have to get in first, before it could happen.

 

[Rambler Hawk]

For those who have watched all the games this year, has Fran shown any of his usual game fire? He seems to be a little disconnected or disinterested on the sidelines this year. Has he lost some of his intensity or motivation since his sons are no longer playing for him? He appears like a guy just playing out the season, however he seems to be recruiting as hard as ever and interested in the future teams.

Maybe his parting gift to the program will be leaving a war chest of athletic recruits the likes of which we have not seen since…..the Raveling years. 😉

 

[BrewHawk]

I don't think Iowa is a great team, but I do think they could be scary on a weekend in the tournament because they can shoot the ball. Tournaments are about getting hot at the right time and putting together a couple good games. Iowa is capable of this type of weekend. They have to get in first, before it could happen.

Yep. It has happened one time in 15 years.

 

[Hawksfor3]

There were similar posts to yours about fans calling for Licklter to be fired. Turned out firing Lick was the right move. Letting FRan Fade into the sunset seems like the right move now. Whether he goes out with a bang like Tom Davis seems unlikely, but would be well appreciated.

I'm expecting a 10-10 season in B1G, probably another year with 1st round loss in BTT to a lower seed. If they get to NCAA tourney, Fran's 6-12 NcAA career record suggest 33% chance of winning 1st game. His 28 years of zero ncaa's Sweet16's suggest winning 2 games is unlikely.

I'd prefer they get to NCAA tornament, half of the teams form B1G will do so. Not a high bar.

It's not that big a deal whether they make the NcAA and lose in 1st game vs they don't make it and end up an NIT team and lose 1st game. That was last year's outcome. At some point statistical trends/long term trends give people a good picture of what to expect.

 

[RocknRollface]

Just found this on FB:
So Frans teams are 11-64 when allowing 85 points or more since he started at Iowa for a whopping 17% winning percentage...at what point does he think " huh, maybe a little defense improves our chances of winning"

Never?

 

[RocknRollface]

I don't think Iowa is a great team, but I do think they could be scary on a weekend in the tournament because they can shoot the ball. Tournaments are about getting hot at the right time and putting together a couple good games. Iowa is capable of this type of weekend. They have to get in first, before it could happen.

It's happened a couple times but seems like more often than not our tournament games look like last night.

They come out shooting ice cold in a new arena against an unfamiliar physical opponent and with zero defense to fall back on they get blown out.

 

[EvilMonkeyInTheCloset]

Clearly you get no enjoyment from Iowa BB winning because in order to make the tourney the Hawks will need at least 8+ more wins.
I enjoy Hawks winning more games.
That's the object of the exercise.

Obviously you relish Iowa losing because you despise hearing hawk fans support their coach and team
Strange attitude.

I relish a team that can win a national championship.

Not scoring as many points as possible while still losing........

 

[EvilMonkeyInTheCloset]

Yes, I want my team to participate in the NCAA Tournament.

 

[Cydkar]

Just found this on FB:
So Frans teams are 11-64 when allowing 85 points or more since he started at Iowa for a whopping 17% winning percentage...at what point does he think " huh, maybe a little defense improves our chances of winning"

It's happened 75 times! That is insane.

 

[HawkLogic]

It's happened a couple times but seems like more often than not our tournament games look like last night.

They come out shooting ice cold in a new arena against an unfamiliar physical opponent and with zero defense to fall back on they get blown out.

Yeah, there isn't a consistent Fran Fade in February, but all the teams he puts out ncaa Tournament time have struggled and looked overmatched. The Fran offense gets taken away or throttled back and there is no defense to fall back on. It's been a while since UNI had their Sweet16, but they did that without 5-star athletes and by playing a grinding style. Put Fran in charge of that UNI team and they'd have lost 1st game. Same with TJ Otzelberger's 1st team that made Sweet16----not a lot of talent, but they played defense. No way that ISU team makes Sweet16 with Fran as coach.

 

[DewHawk]

Yeah, there isn't a consistent Fran Fade in February, but all the teams he puts out ncaa Tournament time have struggled and looked overmatched. The Fran offense gets taken away or throttled back and there is no defense to fall back on. It's been a while since UNI had their Sweet16, but they did that without 5-star athletes and by playing a grinding style. Put Fran in charge of that UNI team and they'd have lost 1st game. Same with TJ Otzelberger's 1st team that made Sweet16----not a lot of talent, but they played defense. No way that ISU team makes Sweet16 with Fran as coach.

or the NCAA tourney IMO

 

[hawkirugged17]

I relish a team that can win a national championship.

Not scoring as many points as possible while still losing........

 

[the notorious r.d.m.]

It's happened 75 times! That is insane.

I'm interested in what the overall winning percentage is in the nation during that time. 17% winning percentage seems like it would be well ahead of the curve. It's a miracle you can win at all doing that.

 

[hawkjt]

I relish a team that can win a national championship.

Not scoring as many points as possible while still losing........

Clearly you have never embraced a single Hawkeye BB team since maybe 1970..altho that team had no shot vs alcindor and UCLA even if they got past Jacksonville...so rule them out of your consideration of supporting them..so maybe the 1956 team?

 

[the notorious r.d.m.]

Just found this on FB:
So Frans teams are 11-64 when allowing 85 points or more since he started at Iowa for a whopping 17% winning percentage...at what point does he think " huh, maybe a little defense improves our chances of winning"

I did some quick research and I found Fran was 12-70 during his time at Iowa. And he is 5-7 in overtime (which I think is an important distinction to make)

Here are some current coaches during their tenure in the B1G, overtime record in parenthetical:
Izzo is 8-33 (3-7)
Painter is 11-30 (5-6)
Underwood is 10-22 (3-4)
Woodson is 1-18 (0-1)
Greg Gard is 3-11 (0-1)
Collins is 2-21 (2-2)
Pikiell is 1-18 (0-3)

Taking out overtime scores, Fran has 70 such games. Izzo and Painter combine for 61.

Izzo and Painter combine for 1,685 total games coached. Fran only has 487.

 

[MikeyHawk]

There were similar posts to yours about fans calling for Licklter to be fired. Turned out firing Lick was the right move. Letting FRan Fade into the sunset seems like the right move now. Whether he goes out with a bang like Tom Davis seems unlikely, but would be well appreciated.

I'm expecting a 10-10 season in B1G, probably another year with 1st round loss in BTT to a lower seed. If they get to NCAA tourney, Fran's 6-12 NcAA career record suggest 33% chance of winning 1st game. His 28 years of zero ncaa's Sweet16's suggest winning 2 games is unlikely.

I'd prefer they get to NCAA tornament, half of the teams form B1G will do so. Not a high bar.

It's not that big a deal whether they make the NcAA and lose in 1st game vs they don't make it and end up an NIT team and lose 1st game. That was last year's outcome. At some point statistical trends/long term trends give people a good picture of what to expect.

Don't pay attention to the poster you responded to. The poster was a huge Alford supporter and Lick as well. The post is the same posted when Alford or Lick were questioned.