Not sure what grape vine you’re hearing from that completely omits Padilla, but he looked fine at both the Spring Practice and Kid’s Day at Kinnick. He just needs a longer look to properly evaluate his game improvement completion percentages…..
Offense will be better and here's why
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Every QB is taught to check down rather than take a sack or an interception. One could hardly describe BB, Drew, Ricky, CJ or Nate has "check down Charlies."
I'm not high on Spencer but we need to check down the crazier criticisms. Like many QBs an injury played a significant part in the last three games. Since we had a guy that was even less accurate than an injured Petras and a RS freshman for reserves its kind of hard to be too critical on the coaches caution. They were in a tight race that would be filled with close games. Played it safe and produced a ten win Division Champ. In the games played before the injury Spencer was 119/199 - a completion rate over 59%. He threw all ten TDs in those games, and even with the 4 disastrous interceptions against Purdue he only threw 2 in the other 6 games. Indeed seven of Spencer's interceptions came in 2 games, 2 interceptions in the other 10 games.
People weigh their memories around the most recent events and those last two games were hard to watch. But they weren't the whole story. This comment from Outback 2017 kind of proves my point. "It could be a very long year based on the results of the bowl game and his performance in that game, which wasn’t good with over throws of wide open guys or completely missed them to throwing the three interceptions" That's projecting his entire season on the basis of a very atypically bad game but also the last game. That's no more realistic than basing the entire season on the 3 TD 70% completion rate and 259 yards against Maryland.
Spencer did lead the team to three come from behind wins last year, scoring the winning TD against the Bug Eaters. Everyone says he's the team leader on offense. He had a strong arm and made a lot of good throws before his shoulder injury. He's been through literally everything bad so maybe he, and the rest of the offense can be significantly better. They aren't trying to **** up.
I don't typically disagree with the coaches player decisions. The coaches see 'em all the time, know what the player is supposed to be doing, and know a hell of a lot more than me about football. So let's not throw in the towel just yet. I will add a caveat, I can see the possible signs of "stubborn old man" worth watching in this current QB situation. Brad Banks, Nate Chandler, Drew Tate, Jake Christensen, Ricky, Jake Ruddock and Nate Stanley all started in their second years in the program. Either our offense has gotten much too complex in the 6 seasons since Nate Stanley started his soph year...a season that saw like 2400 yard, 26 TDs and I think 6 interceptions or we have really missed on some QBs since we recruited Nate.
I'm not high on Spencer but we need to check down the crazier criticisms. Like many QBs an injury played a significant part in the last three games. Since we had a guy that was even less accurate than an injured Petras and a RS freshman for reserves its kind of hard to be too critical on the coaches caution. They were in a tight race that would be filled with close games. Played it safe and produced a ten win Division Champ. In the games played before the injury Spencer was 119/199 - a completion rate over 59%. He threw all ten TDs in those games, and even with the 4 disastrous interceptions against Purdue he only threw 2 in the other 6 games. Indeed seven of Spencer's interceptions came in 2 games, 2 interceptions in the other 10 games.
People weigh their memories around the most recent events and those last two games were hard to watch. But they weren't the whole story. This comment from Outback 2017 kind of proves my point. "It could be a very long year based on the results of the bowl game and his performance in that game, which wasn’t good with over throws of wide open guys or completely missed them to throwing the three interceptions" That's projecting his entire season on the basis of a very atypically bad game but also the last game. That's no more realistic than basing the entire season on the 3 TD 70% completion rate and 259 yards against Maryland.
Spencer did lead the team to three come from behind wins last year, scoring the winning TD against the Bug Eaters. Everyone says he's the team leader on offense. He had a strong arm and made a lot of good throws before his shoulder injury. He's been through literally everything bad so maybe he, and the rest of the offense can be significantly better. They aren't trying to **** up.
I don't typically disagree with the coaches player decisions. The coaches see 'em all the time, know what the player is supposed to be doing, and know a hell of a lot more than me about football. So let's not throw in the towel just yet. I will add a caveat, I can see the possible signs of "stubborn old man" worth watching in this current QB situation. Brad Banks, Nate Chandler, Drew Tate, Jake Christensen, Ricky, Jake Ruddock and Nate Stanley all started in their second years in the program. Either our offense has gotten much too complex in the 6 seasons since Nate Stanley started his soph year...a season that saw like 2400 yard, 26 TDs and I think 6 interceptions or we have really missed on some QBs since we recruited Nate.
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Lol… you absolutely “do not“ see it more in Iowa games than you do in other games. It’s called confirmation bias… Quite frankly where we really fail is getting the ball in a place where the receiver can keep running.
Every team does it & do you know why… ?
Wait for it because it’s really Brilliant…
Because the other team is most assuredly trying to keep you from getting too or throwing to the sticks !
Just sayin’..
Interesting that they cut him then. He must not have been that impressive in camp....
By all accounts he had as good of a camp you could ask for, especially as a rookie. But you only get to keep 53 guys on an NFL roster.
safe bet imo he gets signed to a practice squad, and who knows what happens.
That an RB's are a dime a dozen and interchangeable in the league unless you have some skill that really stands out, and TG really doesn't. Your right though if he can end up on a practice squad he may get picked up for a game or two because of an injury until they sign someone they like better.
The Packers media (for what it's worth) said Goodson had as good a camp as he could have. Consistently made plays and didn't get hurt. The Packers want him on the practice squad if he clears waivers and no other team selects him. If he's on the practice squad, he can be called up 3 separate times in the year (or another team can claim him if he's not called up to the 53). So he's in a good spot for being a UDFA. You are 100% correct that the NFL largely sees RB as interchangeable. It is likely that Goodson gets a shot at being on the active 53 at some point this year. History with Aaron Jones and AJ Dillon is that one of them will get dinged up a bit at some point in a 17 game season. Good for TG, he's going to get paid to play football/be on a NFL roster this year.
Just the way it is now. How many teams have a solid RB for several years in a row, and actually pay the guy? These aren't the days of Sweetness, or Emmitt anymore. Few teams just line up and has their back rush the ball 25-30 times a game anymore. Average time in the league now for a RB is what, 3 or 4 years? That means most of them never even make it to their second contract before they get replaced with a younger model with less wear on the tires. You have to be something really special now to make it long term. TG is a good back. Maybe good enough to hang for a few years, but I don't think he'll be a difference maker in the league. His one asset is he has good speed, bit not difference making at that level.
I think Tyler has a bit more upside than you do, but yeah who knows. To some extent I’m not sure it’s changed a ton regarding how so many RBs flash and then disappear. What’s changed imo is the reluctance of most clubs to give massive contract extensions - lessons finally learned after guys like Shaun Alexander, what’s his name from Tennessee a few years back (had a 2k year rushing), who all had production fall off in the 2nd contract.
Will be fascinated to see what happens to Derrick Henry at Tennessee.
Agree, the NFL is simply different now in offensive philosophy than previous decades.
Somewhat analogous to the discussions on the basketball board involving Luka and centers in the NBA. No longer do teams offenses run through the post, which has resulted in declining value of the traditional on the low block center in the league.
Thats actually an excellent analogy SDHawkDoc. Very similar when you think about it...
Crap, an insightful post before the first game? All downhill from here on the board this season now..l
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Not to be rude to OP (and I may be mixing him up with another poster; if so, I apologize) but didn't he make a thread before last season about how the offensive line could be special?
Didn't read this thread at all, just wanted to bump and say "LOL" since I figured it would be pretty appropriate.
The national media is really overplaying their hand at this point. The Iowa hate is showing. We all know the offense sucked, but Iowa won. Would they rather Iowa fire and hire a new head coach every three years and continue to get their ass kicked like Tennessee, USC, and Nebraska to name a few.
Most people picked us to go 8-4 or 9-3 and if we hit those marks they will want Kirk fired because secretly they wanted and believed 12-0.
One problem with your accessment. The defense are locking into the receivers that he is looking at. He usually looks at his first read and throws it to him or throws it away if not open. He does not look away from his target or go thru his pregressions. Re watch the game. He threw into double coverage more than I care to say cus his eyes are drawing the safety to his target.
So if you think he will miracously fix this after years of training, the offense will not improve substantially with him as qb.
Future defense will dare him to throw. 8 or more in the box to stop run and change from man to man or zone to confuse him
That what our future has in store with petras
It is really too bad it takes the athletes three to four years to lean this complicated system. Pretty much in building mode every year.
Never trust true fans to make objective evaluations about gameplans. I'd bet Vegas makes most of it's money on (insert team's) fans thinking they're better than they are. And that has proven to be the case. The over/under today was 44. If you teased that down to 18 you coulda been a gabillionaire.
Such is life as a Hawkeye fan.
agreed, actually that ratio appears to be getting worse as well...
Oh boy, pack it up. No more evaluations from you. 🤣
Turns out, the bar can go lower.
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