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Ohio State Is Going To Dismantle Us

True Iowa State had no problem with Oklahoma. OSU well??
Agreed. Iowa State beat the hell out of Oklahoma who beat OSU badly. Unfortunately we aren't playing a competitive program like ISU. We've got to play little brother of the Iowa schools and are going to embarrass them on Saturday.
 
Na. This will go into the 4th quarter in a battle with every Ohio State fan having shit in their pants. Will Iowa pull it out? We’ll see, but this will be a close game.
 
Na. This will go into the 4th quarter in a battle with every Ohio State fan having shit in their pants. Will Iowa pull it out? We’ll see, but this will be a close game.
Agreed. Iowa State beat the hell out of Oklahoma who beat OSU badly. Unfortunately we aren't playing a competitive program like ISU. We've got to play little brother of the Iowa schools and are going to embarrass them on Saturday.

Iowa beat ISU. Nice logic,
 
Everyone in Iowa should pull out. Would be a much better state then.
I always wonder about people like this on Rivals boards. It’s weird to go to the trouble of creating a new user name to talk crap on an anonymous internet site. Is this person a teenager? Unemployed? Living in patents basement? Posting secretively on their iPad while pretending to listen to a wife that they’ve long since disconnected from?
 
I think it will be closer than some think, how ever with a mobile QB they’ll pick up 3rd and longs in heart breaking fashion.. but if we can somehow contain the QB we got a shot!
 
So what's different now than the last century or the next century. Ohio State will always have much more talent than Iowa. I can remember a year when HF was in his prime at Iowa that the coach from Ohio St pulled the dogs off at half or it could have ended up 90--0. That Ohio coach was fired because he just didn't win as much as was expected.
 
Biggest difference by far is level of athlete. Harbaugh hasn't come close to stocking his roster with the volume of the same level of elite athletes as Meyer. He got a couple in Peppers and Gary from New Jersey (by hiring their high school coaches in typical Harbaugh fashion), but nowhere close to the volume of Meyer. He brings ridiculous numbers of these elite recruits in every class, last year they had 11 of the top 70 players, this year they already have 8 of the top 70 and led for several more, while Michigan has 4 & 0 respectively of the top 70 the last two years. Even Ohio State had never recruited at the heights Meyer is now. Look at last year for example, he brought in 3 of the top 7 players from TEXAS, one of those will start as a true frosh at RB and is absolutely ridiculous as an athlete, he looks like a young Thurman Thomas for God's sake. They have guy's like him all over the roster now, Michigan isn't even close to that.

That being said, you always know Iowa will be physical and technically sound, so if they can win the turnover and special teams battle anything can happen at Kinnick Stadium, there is no doubt about it.


True Frosh J.K. Dobbins:

You’re talking Chris Partridge who is the LB coach, so he saw something in his coaching abilities not just hire him to get players. Peppers was already on the team anyway. Partridge is also one of the top recruiters on staff.

No doubt Meyer can recruit, but only one B1G title since he got there. There’s always one B1G game a year he blows & costs him a chance at the title

As far as Harbaugh & recruiting, his last 2 classes were top 5 nationally so he’s stocking the roster with talent
 
Well, after reading these doom and gloom post I'm thinking we just try to keep from getting too embarrassed in the first quarter. Bring both teams to the middle of the field at the end of the first quarter, wave at the kids in the hospital and promptly forfeit the rest of the game. We don't want any one hurt for the next game(s) which is probably going to happen since we are so physically overwhelmed by the mutants from OSU.
 
Wilson's offense troubled us. With this talent, he will own us.

Will we score?

Who knows, but for whatever reason, I think we have a chance.

 
Actually, the coaches need to go back and look at the first half of the OSU game in 2013 and implement some of that game plan in.
 
Blah,Blah...we likely lose this game then win out, get a winnable bowl game match-up, then get worked up for next years very favorable schedule!
 
I figured OSU is only a 16 point favorite because Vegas assumed the third stringers would play. Can see this one getting out of hand early.
Urban Crier isn't gonna let off regardless of score. He knows they are far from guaranteed a playoff spot.....
 
Ohio state is the one game i really never have any expectaions for. They're a team we beat a handful of times in a generation
 
Couldn't agree more. Could be over by half. May see OSU backups at the start of the 4th
 
Last year, I wrote this little bit on why Michigan won't dismantle us: https://iowa.forums.rivals.com/threads/michigan-is-not-going-to-dismantle-us.163868/

The difference between Michigan last year and Ohio State this year is #1 coaching and #2 offensive philosophy. Urban Meyer is superior to Jim Harbaugh. Not necessarily superior on the defensive side of the ball. But offensively, it's not even close.

And the reason Iowa can stand up against the Wisconsin's and Michigan's of the world is because like our own offense, these offenses waste plays. Like us, they have this unexplained addiction to wasting plays with 9 guys + a full back in a phone booth running into an 8 or 9 man fronts. Iowa's defense feasts on the stubborn. Like us, the Michigan's and Wisconsin's don't make you account for the quarterback's legs. Like us, the Michigan's and Wisconsin's do very little, it any, read option out of the gun.

Ohio State's offense doesn't waste plays. Their offensive philosophy maximizes their players' chances for execution. OSU's scheme offensively, combined with their talent on defense, combined with our lack of talent on offense is a recipe for disaster this weekend.
Wow, that was a hard one to predict. The Buckeye's are ranked 3rd and have tons of talent. We are a heavy underdog, +17, Hoping Hawks give them a game.
 
OSU grad here....we had a huge emotional game last week, and go on the road to a team we don't play all that often. I DO think we are trending up from the Oklahoma loss, but I fully expect a more conservative gameplan on the road against a very solid team. I would be shocked if we blow out Iowa or even put up big numbers....KF has a way of keeping things closer than they should be quite often.

Last year, I wrote this little bit on why Michigan won't dismantle us: https://iowa.forums.rivals.com/threads/michigan-is-not-going-to-dismantle-us.163868/

The difference between Michigan last year and Ohio State this year is #1 coaching and #2 offensive philosophy. Urban Meyer is superior to Jim Harbaugh. Not necessarily superior on the defensive side of the ball. But offensively, it's not even close.

And the reason Iowa can stand up against the Wisconsin's and Michigan's of the world is because like our own offense, these offenses waste plays. Like us, they have this unexplained addiction to wasting plays with 9 guys + a full back in a phone booth running into an 8 or 9 man fronts. Iowa's defense feasts on the stubborn. Like us, the Michigan's and Wisconsin's don't make you account for the quarterback's legs. Like us, the Michigan's and Wisconsin's do very little, it any, read option out of the gun.

Ohio State's offense doesn't waste plays. Their offensive philosophy maximizes their players' chances for execution. OSU's scheme offensively, combined with their talent on defense, combined with our lack of talent on offense is a recipe for disaster this weekend.
 
OSU Special teams and turnovers kept PSU in the game....as good as Barkley is, he had the KO return and one 36 yd run, the rest of the day he had 20 carries for 8 yards. When OSU finally decided to quit gagging the ball away their O line and D line absolutely dominated PSU and it showed the entire 4th quarter.

If we turn the ball over we lose big if we don't we probably lose a close game so tell me what makes Ohio state that much better than Penn State they didn't blow us out
 
I have no doubt that defensively, Phil Parker will have a great game plan to keep us close. Offensively we can't turn the ball over even once. To stay in the game we have to win the field position battle and we have to win the turnover battle. If Stanley is on target and we actually catch his passes we have a shot. I kind of expect it to be close for 3 Qtrs. and lose by a couple of touchdowns in the 4th.
 
No doubt Meyer can recruit, but only one B1G title since he got there. There’s always one B1G game a year he blows & costs him a chance at the title
I mean, yeah he only has one conference title, but he's 44-2 in regular season B1G play in 5+ years and has never finished worse than a tie for first in his division. It was actually Iowa that blew Ohio State's chance to play for the title last year by beating Michigan.
 
I fully expect Iowa to lose, and I would not be surprised if it gets ugly.

However, I disagree with those saying that this year's OSU team is on another level than last year's Michigan team. Coming into the Iowa game last year, Michigan was averaging 48 points per game, which slightly edges Ohio State's current average. Michigan was a dominating team before coming to Iowa City last year, and the spread on the game was larger than this year's matchup against OSU.

Similarly this year, OSU and PSU are on the same level, and we were a couple inches away from beating PSU. With all this said, I think Iowa is more likely to lose by 4 TDs than win, but an Iowa victory wouldn't be that shocking.
 
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For all the 'us' talk, damn good thing 'we' do not play in this game. The players will play and at least give it a shot.
 
I have no doubt that defensively, Phil Parker will have a great game plan to keep us close. Offensively we can't turn the ball over even once. To stay in the game we have to win the field position battle and we have to win the turnover battle. If Stanley is on target and we actually catch his passes we have a shot. I kind of expect it to be close for 3 Qtrs. and lose by a couple of touchdowns in the 4th.

I want to believe all of this, and I think I mostly agree with the analysis, but here's what's wrong:

1) No matter what defensive plan Parker has, their QB will pick up at least two easy 3rd and longs running as Iowa will not contain him.
2) Can't have an offensive turnover - that is true, but if we play like we know it to be true, we won't take any risks. Maybe if we play balls out and just don't happen to have any turnovers we keep it closer, so if that's what you meant strike this rebuttal of #2.
3) Field position - I assume we will punt multiple times, so yeah, ha ha.
4) Stanley being on target, well, this has happened sometimes. Will the WRs and TEs actually be bothered to catch the ball *IF* he is on target?

But at the end of the day, I wouldn't be shocked if it is 17-17 at the end of the 3rd and then OSU goes on to win 31-17. Not shocked at all by that. And I'm not trying to intentionally piss all over your premise because it is accurate, in theory.
 
They sure got shut down by Oklahoma. Yes, I know we aren't Oklahoma, but neither is ISU so......We obviously have to hope the game goes like the PSU game, where we gave up yards between the 20's and when the field shrunk so did their athletic advantage in a smaller space. Stanley has progressed since the PSU game, and if he can play well, we might get some holes for Wadley.
You do realize ISU BEAT Oklahoma?
 
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I always wonder about people like this on Rivals boards. It’s weird to go to the trouble of creating a new user name to talk crap on an anonymous internet site. Is this person a teenager? Unemployed? Living in patents basement? Posting secretively on their iPad while pretending to listen to a wife that they’ve long since disconnected from?

You took the words right out of my mouth. He must be the president of the OSU chapter of trolls. Probably has a get together every sunday night with the rest of the trolls and brainstorms how to troll the next opponent. I mean come on. No sane individual on this board is going to act like Iowa is anywhere near OSU's level. No one. So why come here? Is your life that meaningless and empty that you have to post stupid sh*& on our board.

I really hope that the Hawks can do something they weren't able to do against PSU, hang tough and finish the game on top. Will it happen? Likely not. But if it does, I will personally inundate bucksandlions with post after post after post about how we made OSU our bitch. Again, do I think it will happen? Likely no. But how much sweeter will it be after dbags like this guy come over here and spout off.
 
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You took the words right out of my mouth. He must be the president of the OSU chapter of trolls. Probably has a get together every sunday night with the rest of the trolls and brainstorms how to troll the next opponent. I mean come on. No sane individual on this board is going to act like Iowa is anywhere near OSU's level. No one. So why come here? Is your life that meaningless and empty that you have to post stupid sh*& on our board.

I really hope that the Hawks can do something they weren't able to do against PSU, hang tough and finish the game on top. Will it happen? Likely not. But if it does, I will personally inundate bucksandlions with post after post after post
about how we made OSU our bitch. Again, do I think it will happen? Likely no. But how much sweeter will it be after dbags like this guy come over here and spout off.

I'm pretty sure that douchebag isn't even a tOSU fan. I wouldn't be surprised if he was a PSU fan trolling on here to make tOSU fans look bad because he's pissed they lost by one point in a hotly contested game. I think you can see by most of the comments from those of us who are "visitors" on your forum, that we're pretty reasonable folks that understand football. That said, there are always a-holes in every fanbase.
 
Folks thought that Iowa would get pasted by Ohio State back in 2013 ... and that didn't happen. I have no idea what to expect from Iowa's O ... but considering that the O looks bad against EVERY opponent ... I don't anticipate anything different against Ohio State. However, similarly, I anticipate that the Iowa D will force Ohio State to earn any points they get.

Thus, while Iowa may still get spanked ... it is still possible that Iowa loses in a score that is something more like 27-6 or something like that.
 
I see Coach Ferentz game planning a way to reduce the number of offensive possessions for OSU. A similar game plan as the PSU plan. All bets are off if Iowa starts turning over the ball or give OSU offensive possessions with favorable field position.
 
I see Coach Ferentz game planning a way to reduce the number of offensive possessions for OSU. A similar game plan as the PSU plan. All bets are off if Iowa starts turning over the ball or give OSU offensive possessions with favorable field position.
This is essentially what Army does, slow the game down and limit offensive possessions. It worked relatively well on the scoreboard and on time of possession. Iowa has better athletes than Army, so if they execute this it could certainly limit Ohio State.
 
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I see Coach Ferentz game planning a way to reduce the number of offensive possessions for OSU. A similar game plan as the PSU plan. All bets are off if Iowa starts turning over the ball or give OSU offensive possessions with favorable field position.
... or if the D flubs and gives up too many splash plays. That is part of what has killed us in most of our recent bowl games. A team with speed manages to get a lot of big plays on us .. and that forces us to change our game-plan. We're never a team that plays well from a big deficit.
 
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I fully expect Iowa to lose, and I would not be surprised if it gets ugly.

However, I disagree with those saying that this year's OSU team is on another level than last year's Michigan team. Coming into the Iowa game last year, Michigan was averaging 48 points per game, which slightly edges Ohio State's current average. Michigan was a dominating team before coming to Iowa City last year, and the spread on the game was larger than this year's matchup against OSU.

Similarly this year, OSU and PSU are on the same level, and we were a couple inches away from beating PSU. With all this said, I think Iowa is more likely to lose by 4 TDs than win, but an Iowa victory wouldn't be that shocking.
Where I would disagree with you is the position that can usually make the most difference, QB. Speight was entirely underwhelming. His poor decision making and poor overall play were in large part responsible for the outcome.
Barrett is a superior athlete, decision maker, runner, able to extend plays, etc. He is so far ahead of speight they're not in the same zip code.
Now, Barrett is still human and he's played poorly and certainly made errors in the past. But unless he has a complete face flop Saturday, the offense that tosu will be bringing in is much better than what scUM had last year simply because of him.
 
They sure got shut down by Oklahoma. Yes, I know we aren't Oklahoma, but neither is ISU so......We obviously have to hope the game goes like the PSU game, where we gave up yards between the 20's and when the field shrunk so did their athletic advantage in a smaller space. Stanley has progressed since the PSU game, and if he can play well, we might get some holes for Wadley.
OU's strength isn't their defense, suggesting Iowa has a chance to hold the nuts down a bit. But I think the reason Ohio State "struggled" in that game (which I actually watched a good chunk of) was playcalling. They seem to have righted that front and are starting to click.

I'd be stunned by an Iowa win. I do think we've a chance to keep it competitive.
 
I have no idea what to expect, OSU is the more talented team up and down the roster, Iowa has some glaring weaknesses in areas that need to be strengths in this game, ( O-line, punting ). Everything in my mind tells me OSU should roll, On the flip side the Hawks have met the challenge and played inspired ball and had a chance in games they really had no business being in many times under KF, hoping for another one.
 
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