Ok let’s get all the ISU stuff out on the table
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Why do clown fans cherry pick selective time frames?
You are missing the point. They dominated Iowa from 99-2002. Of course, other than 2002, most teams beat Iowa during that span. Then in 03-05, they were waiting for Chizik to come in and re-energize the program. He did manage one win. But actually, they were waiting for So Proud to take them to the promised land. He managed a 3-4 record vs the Hawks including the 2014 debacle that was the lowest point of Ferentz's career. But in reality, they were holding out all along for Campbell. He was destined to lead the Clones past Iowa. Any non-biased football fan can see that is were they are at now, right? The first two games never count and since ISU coaches arent usually around long, there is endless hope the next guy is going to be THE guy.
I'm not sure you understand how man coverage works. Say you bracket Fant, you leave the other 4 receiving options in a one-on-one situation. Let's say it's 12 personnel, with Fant, Hockensen, Easley, ISM, and Toren Young on the field. If you double Fant, that leaves the other 4 with one man to beat with ZERO over the top help, and a standard 4 man rush, unless they go to the 3 man front, which would likely leave Stanley with all day to throw. ISU's pass rush was nonexistent against Iowa last year, and with two experienced, tackles, I see no reason to fear it this season. From there, all it takes is for one receiver to get a step on their defender and Stanley to make a decent throw, which is more than reasonable. Easley, Hockensen, and ISM all were capable of it last season, and they'll each be improved.
TL;DR It didn't happen last year, don't expect it this year.
Kempt would not have made the difference in that game for ISU. If anything, he would have allowed Iowa to take a comfy lead and sit on it. When ISU went down 21-10 early in the second half, what allowed them to stay in the game was Park stretching the defense with his arm, which is what allowed running lanes to open up for Montgomery as Iowa backed off to defend the deep ball, coupled with a few awful possessions for Iowa. Kempt is a fine QB, but he's not a game-changer in that sense. He makes safe, smart decisions and piggyback's off of a good RB, good receiving corps, and a defense that stepped it up down the stretch.
He doesn't throw a pick in our own end, and that is all I need to know. Iowa is beat without that mistake.
He also probably doesn’t make all those throws Park made either. ISU won with mostly defense when Kempt played
He threw for 343 yrs and 3 tds against OU completing 75%. He had 15 tds and 3 picks last year. You would be mistaken.
I think what annoys me most about ISU fans is their belief that their talent level is at or near Iowa’s. They use their victories over Iowa and talk up the Big 12 to try and make their point stick. Yet...the true measure of the talent that exists in a college football program isn’t seen in wins/losses or conference affiliation. It’s reflected in the NFL draft. And it’s there that the disparity between Iowa and ISU can be seen. Since 2000, ISU has had 15 players drafted. Iowa has had 66. I could keep going, but my point is already more than made.
So the success of the football team is reflected in how many draft choices they have? Then why don't the hawks win more with their other worldly talent?
What a ridiculous reply. All my post does is show how much more pro-level talent Iowa has had over the years than Iowa State. Reading is fundamental.
The Hawks have won at at a higher level than ISU irrespective of NFL talent. In truth, the margin has closed between the talent each school has brought in. Iowa has consistently done a better job coaching and developing their players than ISU has.
ISU wins this year IF...the band does a tornado siren/Sweet Caroline mashup..and brings their own fog machine. The fog is critical.
From the mist, a waving Jamie Pollard emerges on a golf cart driven by Ronald McDonald.
IF that can happen on our turf, clones win.
Other than that, I got nothing.
From the mist, a waving Jamie Pollard emerges on a golf cart driven by Ronald McDonald.
IF that can happen on our turf, clones win.
Other than that, I got nothing.
I didn't make one last year as I thought the game was a toss up. I expected the hawks to win in Campbell's 1st year.
You seriously thought that one of the best teams in ISU history, with weapons like Lazard and Montgomery and a returning God at QB, on their home field against an Iowa team breaking in a new unproven QB, new unproven OC, new unproven WRs, young OL, and having to replace key defensive guys like Jaleel and King... was a tossup?
Agree 100. Sometimes you see posts and you wonder if an 8th grader wrote the message. I love this Hawkeye message board, but I find it interesting the people who label someone as a bad person because they root for a particular team, etc. Hey, we all have our own likes and dislikes ...
Sorry, but this is lazy and bad argument. For example, Baker Mayfield vs Carson Lentz.
Playing a CFB game? 10/10 coaches select Mayfield to run the team.
Playing a NFL game? 10/10 coaches select Lentz.
It's a completely different game, coaches aren't recruiting high school players for how they project in the NFL.
I’m a fool I guess. And have been for decades. It’s tiring and boring playing ISU.
Not saying individual games are boring, it’s just stale and somewhat manufactured. Felt that way when ISU was going the better part of two decades getting toasted in this game, when Mac was squeaking out wins against very down Iowa teams, and as this thing has swung back to the mean of this series.
The only sizzle is for SOME fans that still live in Iowa.
If going back 20 years why not include all the Fry years too??? or is it just Ferentz and your coaching changes don't matter. Mattie ain't won one yet and he won't this year either.
You seriously thought that one of the best teams in ISU history, with weapons like Lazard and Montgomery and a returning God at QB, on their home field against an Iowa team breaking in a new unproven QB, new unproven OC, new unproven WRs, young OL, and having to replace key defensive guys like Jaleel and King... was a tossup?
It's called rewriting history. Don't forget they had supposedly great DBs also. Although they didn't cover #6 well at the end did they.
Isu threw the ball 125 more times than Iowa last season, yet no wr returning for them, had more receptions than Easley. Yet, only Isu receivers scare anyone? Weird.
I wouldn't have any problem with dropping the series. I would like to see ISU play other P5 teams in targeted recuiting areas. It would also free up Iowa in the same way. I doubt it goes aeay since it is a small state with 2 P5 teams.
YOUR argument is lazy and bad. If you don't think NFL draft numbers relate directly to college success for a program, you're lost. You listed one position where it may or may not matter. List others where the college game vs the NFL game is so different that draft information becomes irrelevant. There are 21 others spots to call out. And while you're at it, tell about about the NFL draft and how it relates to the elite teams in college football vs. the non-elites.
Hey Cytwins is this id number 28 or 29? Better question is how long can you hang on without getting banned again?
The clowns with Kempt would not have scored 41 points to begin with. That is all I need to know that Iowa would have won comfortably.
Maybe I should go with 'I would like to see Iowa play Alabama' can you enlighten me on the non con schedule p5 background and future prospectus for ISU?
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