ISU has not had a P5 home and home besides Iowa since the 90’s. Because outside of the Story County bubble everyone already knows what we do. Playing ISU is a lose lose. Win and you are supposed to and may still drop in the polls, lose and you are a laughingstock of college football. And are their home fans gonna be any more jacked for a home game with ISU (who most fans in P5 conferences don’t know they have a team) than an App St or Louisiana Tech? Doubt it. The only way another team’s fans would care if they mistakenly thought it was Iowa coming to town not the Clowns. There is a reason why ISU has to do home and homes with Akron.
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Hey, they have home and homes set up with UNLV, Ohio and Arkansas State set up!
Exactly I doubt buy it for a second that if Iowa series went on hiatus ISU would schedule another power 5 team. They played FSU neutral site in 02' and beyond that last time played a power 5 team not named Iowa was at Minnesota in 97'. All those seasons in between when they played 4 non conference games and could schedule 2 power 5 teams like Iowa did they scheduled home and home series with the likes of Kent St, Akron, Toledo, UNLV & Tulsa.
No way, is this true? CMC has them on a straight line to blue-blood status that no one can argue with. Home and homes with the most feared schools in the country. CMC will take on anyone anyplace anytime.
Never made much sense to me that ISU fans make fun of Iowa's schedule when ISU is usually the reason the nonconference schedule sucks and ISU never schedules P5 teams in nonconference outside of Iowa.
Obviously without the Iowa game, there is room for other P5 teams on the schedule such as Minny, Wisc, Zona, ASU, Fla schools, etc. You get the point. It really hasn't been pursued(especially with 9 conf games).
Just because the clowns would have room for a replacement P5 school without Iowa, doesn’t mean they would get any of the schools you mention. But clown fans are always dreaming and usually about having the success Iowa has already enjoyed.
They've had plenty of chances to do so. Problem is, no P5 nonconference team wants to do a home and home with the Clones as it isn't any benefit to them. Back in the day when there were 4 nonconference games, ISU never scheduled a P5 home and home with anyone but Iowa. Explain that.
Just because you would have the room to, doesn't mean you would actually schedule them. From 2003-2010, you had "room" to schedule another P5 school, but you didn't.
Meanwhile, Iowa played P5 schools 6 of those 7 years, despite Mizzou backing out of a 4 game series in that window to fluff up their schedule.
I get your game, you know the series is likely not going to go away for quite a while so you can sit back and play the "what if" game.
Actually they played 'what if' and what if won. They had the chances to schedule a P5 team, they didn't.
So you agree that the Iowa-clown series should be two years on and two years off, to schedule other P5 teams. If you dig deep enough in your athletic department files you might find the University of Minnesota's phone number.
Even if they tried to schedule a P5 home and away, what P5 school is going to do that? Does nothing for the other team. Would need to be a 2 for 1 type of deal.
I would be perfectly fine with that. I understand state bragging rites but Iowa just doesn't produce enough D1 caliber players to impress.
C'mon man. ISU was really bad most of those years and needed all the scheduling help they could get. I'd say as it sits right now, if ISU/IA went two on two off (which I would be in favor of), they could and would find a way to schedule a home and home with a Nebraska, Minnesota, Mizzou. It's all conjecture anyway...you're also playing the "what if" game from the other side.
I was just responding to the poster that implied that if ISU just had room on their schedule, they could do it. They had the same amount of room as Iowa in those years, but scheduled 0 P5 teams.
I just don't buy that if Iowa were to disappear from the schedule that ISU would run out and schedule a handful of P5 teams.
On the other side of the coin, Ferentz has scheduled a number of them. I'm more inclined to believe Iowa would schedule a P5 school than ISU.
I find nothing in this post with which to disagree. A lot of fans would like to play Nebraska and Missouri occasionally. I would like to see ISU get good enough that it could schedule a home-and-home exchange with the Shuckers in addition to the annual Iowa game. But there also is another fairly big question: Would Nebraska and/or Missouri go for it?
The gulf between Iowa and Iowa St is as one sided as its ever been outside of Walden/Criner years. Iowa is winning at a 70% clip the last 10 years including 3 straight (and heavy favorites for the 4th straight at Kinnick), Iowa is averaging 8 wins per year vs 4.5 per year for the Clones, and Iowa has a 41 year streak of sending at least one draft pick to the NFL, ISU has none for the last FOUR years among other things like facilities and revenue, which is likely to double up ISU’s as we will be in the 150-160 million range next year.
ISU has a decent coach (for now) and is recruiting in the mid forties which is good for them. They can reasonably hope to raise their lot in life in the lowly Big 12. Fortunately for them, the Big 12 has become a bit of a smaller pond as the bigger fish have left and 8 of the teams in the league are smaller commuter schools without great alumni fan/revenue support.
However, there is some harsh news in here as well - ISU has never shown that it has the wherewithal even temporarily to support a football program at a high level. ISU is spending less than half the money that the top 25 schools average for coaches and even less on facilities, food, and support staff. Iowa St has never cracked 85 million in total revenue for a year. Iowa State hasn’t played a guarantee game for an FBS opponent for a long time if ever- because the cost to buy a game doesn’t make financial sense for the university - meaning they clearly have a sense that there isn’t pricing power there for them for the suites and club seats or even season ticket packages to buy a game like that.
Iowa St won’t be ever sustainable until they can offer ALL of that. And before you even say it, ISU trolls, enrollment doesn’t even register on the scale in CFB. Enjoy this brief period in the Campbell era - before you know it he’ll be gone to greener pastures and ISU inevitably will be in a non power league as Texas and Oklahoma will leave (the remainder of the league is essentially worth the same as the teams in the American conference).
ISU has a decent coach (for now) and is recruiting in the mid forties which is good for them. They can reasonably hope to raise their lot in life in the lowly Big 12. Fortunately for them, the Big 12 has become a bit of a smaller pond as the bigger fish have left and 8 of the teams in the league are smaller commuter schools without great alumni fan/revenue support.
However, there is some harsh news in here as well - ISU has never shown that it has the wherewithal even temporarily to support a football program at a high level. ISU is spending less than half the money that the top 25 schools average for coaches and even less on facilities, food, and support staff. Iowa St has never cracked 85 million in total revenue for a year. Iowa State hasn’t played a guarantee game for an FBS opponent for a long time if ever- because the cost to buy a game doesn’t make financial sense for the university - meaning they clearly have a sense that there isn’t pricing power there for them for the suites and club seats or even season ticket packages to buy a game like that.
Iowa St won’t be ever sustainable until they can offer ALL of that. And before you even say it, ISU trolls, enrollment doesn’t even register on the scale in CFB. Enjoy this brief period in the Campbell era - before you know it he’ll be gone to greener pastures and ISU inevitably will be in a non power league as Texas and Oklahoma will leave (the remainder of the league is essentially worth the same as the teams in the American conference).
Dead on. isu hasn't sustained success for this set of facts. Can they have a break through year here and there, sure but isu hasn’t been able to be consistent and may never be able to do so with football. The resources that takes appears to be difficult for isu to consistently pull off.
Exactly. ISU had chance for lot of years. Most would be scheduled few years in advance so for that time frame of off late 90s till they went to 9 games I'm not buying the excuse of we weren't good and needed 3 easy games and couldn't get another power 5. You had a couple of decent seasons like the best season ever in school history in 2000 or 7 wins in 02' and few others where they made bowl games like in 05'. Pollard in his time there has shown zero incentive to schedule any power 5 besides Iowa and instead did home and homes with the Kent St and Akrons of the world. I highly doubt if Iowa left that would change with his history of scheduling teams in the past.
Agree with much of this. I personally am very impressed with the young ISU coach. He seems to have a very bright future and I am quite concerned about them this year. They should have a terrific offense and he has improved the defense. As far as I’m concerned, he can’t accept a “big school” offer soon enough for me.
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