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Olympics in Danger

There was a coup a couple weeks ago and the country's governmental/political future is unstable and uncertain.

It wasn't a military coup or a coup in the traditional sense. There have been some protests but it wouldn't be termed a dangerous situation.
 
It wasn't a military coup or a coup in the traditional sense. There have been some protests but it wouldn't be termed a dangerous situation.

As of yet, no. But with a far-right regime there could be problems on the horizon.
 
It wasn't a military coup or a coup in the traditional sense. There have been some protests but it wouldn't be termed a dangerous situation.
Hawaii seems to be nice and not too dangerous. That's about as "foreign" as I care to get. ;)
 
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Bring on The Games!
I believe that photo is from the 1932 movie "Freaks." Not so funny.
 
To each their own of course but to have safety concerns at this point seems overboard.

You're probably right, the Olympics are right around the corner and I think the problems resulting from the new regime will occur over a longer period of time. Plus, right-wing regimes have no problems using the military to squash dissent so whatever violence that occurs will remain outside Olympic Village. As an athlete, I'd be less inclined to venture outside of heavily policed tourist areas, though.
 
You're probably right, the Olympics are right around the corner and I think the problems resulting from the new regime will occur over a longer period of time. Plus, right-wing regimes have no problems using the military to squash dissent so whatever violence that occurs will remain outside Olympic Village. As an athlete, I'd be less inclined to venture outside of heavily policed tourist areas, though.


Fair enough. And let me also say this as a business traveler I'm not all that concerned about Zika, either. I take precautions as should our Olympians.
 
To each their own of course but to have safety concerns at this point seems overboard.

Brazil is one of the most violent countries in the world. That plus the virus, political unrest makes it into a trashier version of a Mexican resort city. Generally safe if you stick to the approved areas but don't wander off.
 
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I seem to recall the 2004 games went so well there was some talk of that. I'd go along with it. It makes more sense to build the infrastructure once then just pay for maintenance and upgrades.

I was thinking about the origins of the Olympics, but your points make me feel even more strongly about it. Cheers!
 
Brazil is one of the most violent countries in the world. That plus the virus, political unrest makes it into a trashier version of a Mexican resort city. Generally safe if you stick to the approved areas but don't wander off.

Do you have any data to back up this claim?
 
Most of the games including wrestling are taking place in Barra da Tijuca which is a nice area where the wealthier ppl live. Stick to that and Ipanema which is a great place as well. Copacabana is highly overrated.
 
Fair enough. And let me also say this as a business traveler I'm not all that concerned about Zika, either. I take precautions as should our Olympians.

A friend of mine has had Zika, contracted on a visit to Guatemala. He's a man; it was a minor rash and fever, no big deal. Pregnant women, women who are trying to become pregnant, men who are trying impregnate their wives in the near future, have much more cause for concern. If you don't fall into one of those groups, I think the Zika virus is the least of your concerns when contemplating a trip to Rio and shouldn't really factor into your decision. If I did fit one of those groups, given the severity of the consequences, I'm not sure I'd be willing to roll the dice with a little DEET and a mosquito net.
 
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http://www.worldatlas.com/articles/most-dangerous-cities-in-the-world.html

21 of the top 50 most dangerous cities in the world are in Brazil. What is odd is that outside South Africa and the USA, all other cities/countries reside in Central and South America.

Brazil doesn't even rank in the top 50 of most dangerous countries in the world. The US State Department hasn't issued a travel advisory for Brazil in the past year. Not sure they ever have.

Like anywhere else, you never want to hit the ghettoes but to characterize Brazil as a dangerous country as a whole missed the mark.
 
Brazil doesn't even rank in the top 50 of most dangerous countries in the world. The US State Department hasn't issued a travel advisory for Brazil in the past year. Not sure they ever have.

Like anywhere else, you never want to hit the ghettoes but to characterize Brazil as a dangerous country as a whole missed the mark.
I know what you are saying, but Brazil isn't great either. I've traveled everywhere, and I mean everywhere, and Brazil would rank 4th worst in south America after venezuela, ecuador, and peru(not in order). Sections of Brazil are fine but if you get into the wrong locale, watch out. Like a white guy in Harlem at midnight.
 
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The lack of respect for human life in south America among the criminal class is frightening. Always know what you are getting yourself into, and if possible, bring local friends along. Chile is a different animal. I felt at home there.
 
I know what you are saying, but Brazil isn't great either. I've traveled everywhere, and I mean everywhere, and Brazil would rank 4th worst in south America after venezuela, ecuador, and peru(not in order). Sections of Brazil are fine but if you get into the wrong locale, watch out. Like a white guy in Harlem at midnight.

As little as you know about Harlem -- right here in the U.S. -- suggests you know almost nothing of Brazil.
 
Sure...because Greece is doing so well economically.

Who gives a shit about the economy, I don't even see the correlation.

Make Athens the place every four years. Make one badass Olympic village with great architecture and have it in historic Athens.

Cities that spend billions on hosting the Olympics building new stadiums and buying valuable real estate might break even if they're lucky. One spot every four years kept up by the IOC is the way to go in the place it all started.
 
Who gives a shit about the economy, I don't even see the correlation.

Make Athens the place every four years. Make one badass Olympic village with great architecture and have it in historic Athens.

Cities that spend billions on hosting the Olympics building new stadiums and buying valuable real estate might break even if they're lucky. One spot every four years kept up by the IOC is the way to go in the place it all started.

That is my thought. Let the IOC manage the site, and forget about the worst part of the Olympics; which is the bribery and chicanery of selecting a site every four years, along with the gnashing of teeth over whether or not the host will be prepared.
 
Who gives a shit about the economy, I don't even see the correlation.

Make Athens the place every four years. Make one badass Olympic village with great architecture and have it in historic Athens.

Cities that spend billions on hosting the Olympics building new stadiums and buying valuable real estate might break even if they're lucky. One spot every four years kept up by the IOC is the way to go in the place it all started.

Who is going to pay for it all then? It would be like a U.N. management of the Olympics by the IOC...continually sucking money like leeches from countries like us who you know would have to be the primary source of funds.

That type of buildup would take billions and the host country would be the de facto manager of it whether we liked it or not. Despite all of Greece's economic problems, they still voted in a hard leftist government which would mean cost overruns and labor disputes. If we committed to it, Greece would have the sports world by the balls like it does the EU now.

Even if the IOC were able to get funds, it would be like sending fans into an economically depressed area without the proper infrastructure like hotels, restaurants etc...prices would go up exponentially and hurt the normal citizens who live there daily.

I vote we go to the country model instead of the city...like the World Cup. Cities can bid on events and help absorb costs without going into serious debt. Fans of a particular sport would not have to spend a shitload of money for a couple of days of watching their sport. Stop sending the world to third world countries where it's not only a rush for the fans but hurts the locals too.
 
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I just thank my lucky stars that my city (Chicago) didn't win their bid, what a cluster-you-know-what that would have been. Both at the time of the games and the economic fallout for years after.
 
I just thank my lucky stars that my city (Chicago) didn't win their bid, what a cluster-you-know-what that would have been. Both at the time of the games and the economic fallout for years after.

True that...Chicago is already seriously mired in debt.
 
I know what you are saying, but Brazil isn't great either. I've traveled everywhere, and I mean everywhere, and Brazil would rank 4th worst in south America after venezuela, ecuador, and peru(not in order). Sections of Brazil are fine but if you get into the wrong locale, watch out. Like a white guy in Harlem at midnight.
Your racism needs an update, see the NYTimes article from Sunday about soaring realestate prices in Harlem.
 
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