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On JBo's Podcast, Jay Bilas says Iowa is Final 4/Nat'l Championship Good. They also Indict the NCAA, which had $500M in Cash Reserves 5 Yrs Ago

No, Wisconsin has not "gradually" increased anything. They made a massive leap in offensive speed from last season to this season. Nobody shaves 4 seconds per possession off their average season over season while keeping the same coach (and players). It's bizarre how big of a leap in pace they have taken, and this is unrelated to rules changes with shot clock that were in place prior to last season. Wisconsin ranked 346th nationally last season in offensive tempo, just barely ahead of the slowest teams in the country. They have jumped up roughly 200 spots in the rankings so far this year.


And yes, I am aware of the effects of a 30 second clock vs a 35 second clock and the benefits of a lazy press that wastes a few seconds. You are preaching to the choir. I've been harping on those things for decades. But the shot clock changes are minor and haven't really hurt or benefitted anybody except fans that get to see a few extra possessions per game.

And those extra possessions have led to more points. I'm not talking from year to year - I'm curious if Wisconsin keeps that pace all year or not tho, but while still playing slow, Wisconsin has been more willing to play fast since they shortened the clock. They don't like to, and it's not their first choice, but they aren't necessarily waiting until the last second to shoot like they were seemingly.
 
you fail to admit they are making well above market wage already. Just think about the interest they don't have to carry on debt alone. Your average college football player and basketball player is banking more than a nurse practitioner, physicians assistant, principal, or superintendent. Why are you under this belief that their wages are not fair?

If they're being paid more than they are worth, there's surely no need for a rule that caps the amount of benefits they can receive, right?

Just like if there was currently a law that no kindergarten teachers can be paid more than $1 million per year. Getting rid of that hypothetical law would have no effect because no kindergarten teacher can earn $1 million per year on the free market.
 
Another interesting thing to note: Bilas brought up this podcast itself, and the possibility that Jordan could get sponsors for it (and therefore receive income).

Why shouldn't Jordan and Zack be able to make some money off their work/off their podcast?
 
What difference does it make if Billion Auto pays him a few hundred or a billion$$$. The "sponsors" are going to pay what they think someone is worth. If a "sponsor" in Auburn, AL thinks Cam Netwon is worth &200k while a "sponsor" in Oxford, MS only thinks he's worth $100k, so what? Why does it matter?

People need to quit looking at it that it's perfectly fine and normal for the coaches, schools, conferences, NCAA to make billions of dollars while at the same time thinking athletes are properly compensated by receiving a scholarship and stipend. Allowing them to be compensated outside of their sport/school absolutely should be allowed, as long as it is above board and visible.
no one is making billions. Just think about the billions spent every year on athletes. I doubt most schools would be able to afford sports if scholarships were funded by donors.
 
If they're being paid more than they are worth, there's surely no need for a rule that caps the amount of benefits they can receive, right?

Just like if there was currently a law that no kindergarten teachers can be paid more than $1 million per year. Getting rid of that hypothetical law would have no effect because no kindergarten teacher can earn $1 million per year on the free market.
Fine. Take away scholarships, tutoring, stipends and let the free market determine their worth. You would quickly find that most "athletes: would love the current system.
The average G league salary is 35K. an Iowa athlete is pulling in between 80-135k in total compensation plus no interest on debt. Can you image the compensation of an athlete at Northwestern or stanford.
 
Face it, Scholarships are a high end socialist system that people want to apply free market forces to. The problem is, pro-pay people only want to apply the free market in a few areas and have absolutely no negative consequences.
A very very few d1 athletes are losing out on NIL but they are benefitting everyone else. Why would you want to acquiesce to a few players at the expense of the rest? Those few could choose to go to the G league or another minor league route. The problem is the money just isn't there and neither are the fans. Why do you think there isn't a minor league system for football, no one watches. If there was a dollar to be made, someone would. The NIL $$ is from the school in 99% of athletes.
 
And those extra possessions have led to more points. I'm not talking from year to year - I'm curious if Wisconsin keeps that pace all year or not tho, but while still playing slow, Wisconsin has been more willing to play fast since they shortened the clock. They don't like to, and it's not their first choice, but they aren't necessarily waiting until the last second to shoot like they were seemingly.

no, the clock rules were in effect last season and Wisconsin played at the same insanely slow pace as always. This season with the same coach and same players and same clock rules they are magically shooting the ball faster than they have since probably Stu Jackson was coach. That change was unrelated to the clock changes.
 
Seems to me no one is talking about one obvious fact. If there aren't some strict regulations about the pay for athletes, what is to stop a booster from paying a kid $10,000 a month to wash his car once a month? I think trying to regulate this is a can of worms.
 
Seems to me no one is talking about one obvious fact. If there aren't some strict regulations about the pay for athletes, what is to stop a booster from paying a kid $10,000 a month to wash his car once a month? I think trying to regulate this is a can of worms.

If boosters want to pay players, why should we care? Currently, that is illegal and so it creates an uneven playing field for programs that follow the rules.

However, if it were legal and transparent, why do people think we should spend so much effort making sure athletes don't make money while they play college sports? Our laws generally promote the ability for adults to freely contract with each other for goods/services. We impose limits to the right freely engage in contracts when the goods or services subject to the contract are deemed harmful to society (e.g., drug dealing, prostitution, etc.). I don't think playing college sports is something that is harmful to society, and so if someone wants to pay a player to play sports at their favorite college, I fail to see why we should make that illegal.
 
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Seems to me no one is talking about one obvious fact. If there aren't some strict regulations about the pay for athletes, what is to stop a booster from paying a kid $10,000 a month to wash his car once a month? I think trying to regulate this is a can of worms.

the point is to try to get it above board and let a kid earn $10K in income for whatever service they are providing (be it actual work or simply advertising or whatever) and let it be taxed as income and what not instead of somebody handing $10K in cash in a bag to someone in a dark alley.
 
Interestingly in the world of tempo, Wisconsin playing a ton faster on offense this year with average possession only last 16.8 seconds so far which is basically average nationally. For basically every season going back 10+ years they have usually been in the 20.5-22.5 second range for length of offensive possessions. For reference, Iowa usually in the 15-17 second range (14.4 so far this year).

Wisconsin's pace may have a lot more to do with who they've played so far this season rather than a change in style.
 
Wisconsin's pace may have a lot more to do with who they've played so far this season rather than a change in style.

possibly but they have never had these splits previously, not even particularly close. Time will tell if it holds, but through early season they are shooting the ball way way faster than they have in early season play previously.
 
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