That's simple, Herk. Because I can.Then why are you and other Iowa obsessed clown fans here? To tell us how isu can’t play Big Boy football?
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That's simple, Herk. Because I can.Then why are you and other Iowa obsessed clown fans here? To tell us how isu can’t play Big Boy football?
Still ignoring that isu can’t play Big Boy football with a non-scholarship team? Good for you, keep carrying the flag for isu on this site.That's simple, Herk. Because I can.
I will, herk. Thank you.Still ignoring that isu can’t play Big Boy football with a non-scholarship team? Good for you, keep carrying the flag for isu on this site.
Yikes
I will, herk. Thank you.
Promise you'll keep taking the bait?
My god, you literally just made up a bunch of crap.Yes, ISU played better teams than Iowa did. That was especially glaring in '02.
But if you want to play this game, the more accurate way to judge the question is to look at how the teams did in the immediate aftermath of the game...an overemphasis on the team in Week Two would most likely show itself by poor performance in Week Three and/or Four. A team that goes, for instance, 4-1 in the first half of the season and 2-5 in the second half of the season doesn't indicate a team that overemphasized or played over its head in the second game of the year.
By that standard, over the years since the series was renewed, a better argument could be made that Iowa, not ISU, put too much emphasis on the game.
My god, you literally just made up a bunch of crap.
That argument isn't that they beat "great" Iowa teams Bryce. It's that this game was an outlier to the rest of the season. Did you just decide to start your own argument? Unless someone else said it above, and I missed it. In 2007, Iowa went 6-6 while ISU went 3-9. I think it's fairly clear that was ISU's super bowl that year. It seems silly to argue against that, wouldn't you think. Whether Iowa went on to be just average, ISU was BAD!. To say it's only happened twice in 20 years is ignorant to what is even being argued. This argument evolved in 2007 when a crappy ISU team beat Iowa. Since 2007, and including that game, Iowa is 8-4 against ISU. In those wins, 2007 and 2014 appeared as "Super Bowl" type wins. 2011 can be argued the same as Iowa showed it was better the rest of the year, finishing 7-6 while getting stuck in that brutal bowl loss to a top 10 Oklahoma. Meanwhile ISU finished 6-7 with a bowl loss to Rutgers. 2012 is literally the only time ISU has won in the last 12 years, that their team was better than Iowa's. Finally, flipping the scripts, how many times has Iowa won this game, where it clearly had the inferior team since 2002? I say 2002 because clearly Iowa hadn't won those previous years, where ISU had the better teams. The answer is easy, 0! Now, I'm not going to argue that this really IS ISU's super bowl, I'm just telling you why people would say that.There is exactly one time ISU beat a great Iowa team - 2002. Every other time ISU won, it was against either a middling or not so good Iowa team. In 2007 Iowa lost 6 games, including to Western Michigan to end the season. That team really wasn't that good and that loss shouldn't exactly be shocking. 2014, Iowa went 7-6 and got destroyed by Minnesota. Really the only games that super bowl could really apply to are 2002 and 2014... and that's twice in 20 years, and only one of those games was a shocking loss.
Makes perfect sense. Unlike what you posted in your response to Bryce. It's pretty clear you really don't understand how things work in the world.My god, you literally just made up a bunch of crap.
Wut? This makes no sense LC.Yes, ISU played better teams than Iowa did. That was especially glaring in '02.Trolling hard today I see. It was born during the seasons where this games outcome, was the outlier in what both teams did the rest of the season. Like 2002, 2007, and 2014. 2011 the records were close enough to say this wasn't the case, but Iowa did go on to have the better record there again.
But if you want to play this game, the more accurate way to judge the question is to look at how the teams did in the immediate aftermath of the game...an overemphasis on the team in Week Two would most likely show itself by poor performance in Week Three and/or Four. A team that goes, for instance, 4-1 in the first half of the season and 2-5 in the second half of the season doesn't indicate a team that overemphasized or played over its head in the second game of the year.
By that standard, over the years since the series was renewed, a better argument could be made that Iowa, not ISU, put too much emphasis on the game.
I assume you're referring to Jizzer's post, and I agree.Wut? This makes no sense LC.
I've never understood the lingering, "this is your superbowl," thing. The argument is circular. This is your superbowl. No it's not, it's yours. No it's not. Yes it is. And so on and so on. Iowa has basically owned ISU in head-to-head games in modern times. We all know that.
A more important barometer I think is a team's signature wins. I think it's fair to say ISU is Iowa's signature win of the regular season. Not a superbowl, but their signature win.
Makes perfect sense. Unlike what you posted in your response to Bryce. It's pretty clear you really don't understand how things work in the world.
Let's take 1981 as an example, even though I suspect you had not yet been born.. ISU won very easily (23-12 score was a bit misleading). Iowa had just beaten Nebraska and would later beat UCLA and Michigan and go to the Rose Bowl. So did it take a "Super Bowl" effort for Iowa State to win, as a lot of you people keep fantasizing?
If the Cyclones had screwed the pooch in their next game, or never played well again that year, you could make the argument that they shot their wad in the Iowa game. But that didn't happen. Six weeks after the Iowa game, ISU was ranked higher in the polls than Iowa (was in the Top 10 of one poll) and had tied #5 Oklahoma on the road and beaten #8 Missouri by 21 points. The bottom fell out, with injuries and some other problems, and they lost their last four games. So some Hawkeyes yap about how the only reason ISU won the game was that it was their Super Bowl. Bullshit.
2002 was eerily similar. When ISU played Iowa, ISU was the better team, despite playing a horrible first half. A month later, ISU was higher ranked than Iowa (was in the top 10). That doesn't sound like a team that put all its eggs in one basket.
The Iowa game is very important to most ISU fans and to the team, I'm sure. But to call it ISU's Super Bowl is arrogance to the point of delusion.
Yeah, I've been listening to it for 40 years, which is why I got overly snarky in this thread, for which I apologize.I've never understood the lingering, "this is your superbowl," thing. The argument is circular. This is your superbowl. No it's not, it's yours. No it's not. Yes it is. And so on and so on. Iowa has basically owned ISU in head-to-head games in modern times. We all know that.
A more important barometer I think is a team's signature wins. I think it's fair to say ISU is Iowa's signature win of the regular season. Not a superbowl, but their signature win.
That argument isn't that they beat "great" Iowa teams Bryce. It's that this game was an outlier to the rest of the season. Did you just decide to start your own argument? Unless someone else said it above, and I missed it. In 2007, Iowa went 6-6 while ISU went 3-9. I think it's fairly clear that was ISU's super bowl that year. It seems silly to argue against that, wouldn't you think. Whether Iowa went on to be just average, ISU was BAD!. To say it's only happened twice in 20 years is ignorant to what is even being argued. This argument evolved in 2007 when a crappy ISU team beat Iowa. Since 2007, and including that game, Iowa is 8-4 against ISU. In those wins, 2007 and 2014 appeared as "Super Bowl" type wins. 2011 can be argued the same as Iowa showed it was better the rest of the year, finishing 7-6 while getting stuck in that brutal bowl loss to a top 10 Oklahoma. Meanwhile ISU finished 6-7 with a bowl loss to Rutgers. 2012 is literally the only time ISU has won in the last 12 years, that their team was better than Iowa's. Finally, flipping the scripts, how many times has Iowa won this game, where it clearly had the inferior team since 2002? I say 2002 because clearly Iowa hadn't won those previous years, where ISU had the better teams. The answer is easy, 0! Now, I'm not going to argue that this really IS ISU's super bowl, I'm just telling you why people would say that.
2007 is a bad example. Both teams were not good. Iowa State was like #92 on sagarin and Iowa was #79, and he would have the point spread at 4 on a neutral field. That’s not insurmountable by any means for a home game.
I’d say Iowa State was also clearly better in 2005 but we’re simply splitting hairs there.
It seems jizzer made you salty.I assume you're referring to Jizzer's post, and I agree.Wut? This makes no sense LC.
1 year....I'd say that was strictly recruiting and the fact Campbell won't commit long term to Iowa State.
Wasn't his/her fault. I should know by now that the reason I'm tired of the same argument a few times a year is that nobody ever convinces anybody of anything.It seems jizzer made you salty.
He is signed through 2024, which is 6 more years. That is a long term contract, but not an insanely long contract like a certain AD in Iowa City likes to write.
Yeah these boards have become tiresome.Wasn't his/her fault. I should know by now that the reason I'm tired of the same argument a few times a year is that nobody ever convinces anybody of anything.It seems jizzer made you salty.
Is that Tommy's baby from that hooker he got busted with?♂️
Is that Tommy's baby from that hooker he got busted with?♂️
2007 is a bad example, despite you admitting ISU was a worse team that upset an Iowa team, who had 3 more wins? I'm confused, was ISU better, no, you just admitted it. It's not that Iowa was good that year, it was that ISU was awful!.2007 is a bad example. Both teams were not good. Iowa State was like #92 on sagarin and Iowa was #79, and he would have the point spread at 4 on a neutral field. That’s not insurmountable by any means for a home game.
I’d say Iowa State was also clearly better in 2005 but we’re simply splitting hairs there.
Birch got busted with a hooker?Is that Tommy's baby from that hooker he got busted with?♂️
Called it. Clown fan trying to convince us Iowa isn’t isu’s Super Bowl by posting on an Iowa site at 12:45 am.
Has the isu d-bag AD been tossed from a High School basketball game lately? Let me guess must ignore right clown fans?
More please.
More please....
Coming from the one guy on this board who is so obsessed with Iowa State that he never has a comment about ANYTHING related strictly to Hawkeye football or basketball. At least I’ve never seen it.
I should send you a cardinal and gold t-shirt to soothe your fetish.....
And what does posting at 12:45 am have anything to do with anything. I was up.
More please....
Coming from the one guy on this board who is so obsessed with Iowa State that he never has a comment about ANYTHING related strictly to Hawkeye football or basketball. At least I’ve never seen it.
I should send you a cardinal and gold t-shirt to soothe your fetish.....
And what does posting at 12:45 am have anything to do with anything. I was up.
It is all about putting clowns in there place, which is below Iowa.What's really funny here is the posters who keep stressing the 0-3 record against Iowa. Tell me again which fan base considers that game the Super Bowl.