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OT: Iowa State's record is 0-15 in conference and 2-18 on the season

Clone fans are despondent...

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The amount of spin going on at CF right now is truly something.

Basically, 3 of our top 8 (Bohannon, Connor and Patrick) are terrible and Fran still isn't a decent coach. Somehow, we are #5 in the nation in March despite all this but just wait until all this talent (that we apparently dont have) leaves the program.


Start there and read through. Whoever Legend Hawk is deserves some type of trophy.

Wow... The delusion is strong over there...

To summarize, this is the first decent team that Fran has had at Iowa.
 
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Funny. I mentioned this awhile back on the football board. I actually laughed out loud when Williams said on his radio show last summer that “as a journalist, I am going to do an objective, deep-dive into the racial situation at Iowa.” I had no respect for him anyway but that was unreal. Dude you literally run and profit (meagerly) from your website which is all things anti-Iowa. I would have actually gained a tad of respect for him if he just said “due to my hatred for all things Iowa, I can’t be fair to the situation” and left it that and let the real journalists cover it.

He is flat out admitting that they added premium to save CF.


"And just one quick note, because this really bothers me (I know I am too sensitive). We didn't add the premium stuff to lock fans out of content and information. We did it to 1) save the company and 2) enhance our product. We aren't providing anything less to the free folks that we used to. If anything, it has allowed us to keep providing that content and product for those folks. It's as simple as that. This just bugs me. Independent media is beyond hard. It is almost impossible to do well in 2021. We had to evolve a little bit to keep thriving. That's all. Have a nice day."
 
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I dont know their roster as well as i would in normal years, because they havent even been worth watching. But wouldnt all 3 of the players mentioned start for them or at a minimum play huge minutes?
 
He is flat out admitting that they added premium to save CF.


"And just one quick note, because this really bothers me (I know I am too sensitive). We didn't add the premium stuff to lock fans out of content and information. We did it to 1) save the company and 2) enhance our product. We aren't providing anything less to the free folks that we used to. If anything, it has allowed us to keep providing that content and product for those folks. It's as simple as that. This just bugs me. Independent media is beyond hard. It is almost impossible to do well in 2021. We had to evolve a little bit to keep thriving. That's all. Have a nice day."
He is simply bad at his job. He likes his booze and other extra things way too much to run a business. He lost a ton of posters by paying and allowing Twins to do his deal. Now, last I checked, there are like 4 Clones and 2 Hawks posting there around and around. Bad for business. Hell I will never forget when Twins tried to get support to troll and used Gonzo as a “great poster” as a reference so to say and Gonzo said he had Twins on ignore for over a year. Williams is a total moron. Not smart and well I won’t say more.
 
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He is simply bad at his job. He likes his booze and other extra things way too much to run a business. He lost a ton of posters by paying and allowing Twins to do his deal. Now, last I checked, there are like 4 Clones and 2 Hawks posting there around and around. Bad for business. Hell I will never forget when Twins tried to get support to troll and used Gonzo as a “great poster” as a reference so to say and Gonzo said he had Twins on ignore for over a year. Williams is a total moron. Not smart and well I won’t say more.
I will: Chris Williams is a poopy butt
 
He is simply bad at his job. He likes his booze and other extra things way too much to run a business. He lost a ton of posters by paying and allowing Twins to do his deal. Now, last I checked, there are like 4 Clones and 2 Hawks posting there around and around. Bad for business. Hell I will never forget when Twins tried to get support to troll and used Gonzo as a “great poster” as a reference so to say and Gonzo said he had Twins on ignore for over a year. Williams is a total moron. Not smart and well I won’t say more.

For the 1,000th time Twins isn't an employee of CF. There is no way the money works out unless he's a full time employee that makes .20 an hour. Also, the only full time employees of CF are Williams and Stansbury, he's said so many times, so if you're calling him a liar I think you should provide at least a shred of evidence.
 
He is simply bad at his job. He likes his booze and other extra things way too much to run a business. He lost a ton of posters by paying and allowing Twins to do his deal. Now, last I checked, there are like 4 Clones and 2 Hawks posting there around and around. Bad for business. Hell I will never forget when Twins tried to get support to troll and used Gonzo as a “great poster” as a reference so to say and Gonzo said he had Twins on ignore for over a year. Williams is a total moron. Not smart and well I won’t say more.

This guy?

 
For the 1,000th time Twins isn't an employee of CF. There is no way the money works out unless he's a full time employee that makes .20 an hour. Also, the only full time employees of CF are Williams and Stansbury, he's said so many times, so if you're calling him a liar I think you should provide at least a shred of evidence.
I said Williams is paying him to drive traffic on a site he runs and has a stake in. JFC, unless Twins lies about it he has said it himself or at least never denied it. Whatever not the point who pays him be it the company or Williams. Williams is in charge and allows it. That was the point. You realize Clone posters (outside of a handful) mock the situation and don’t post in the “cesspool” anymore. My point was that is not good for business. Your biggest poster has relagated what used to be an active forum into a few people saying the same thing over and over and Clone fans asking how to opt out of it.
 
So, can someone quickly summarize WTF happened to Iowa State for me? Did they lose a bunch of players?

ISU has been a better program than Iowa for quite sometime. What went wrong?
All their players went to the NBA...lol
 
I said Williams is paying him to drive traffic on a site he runs and has a stake in. JFC, unless Twins lies about it he has said it himself or at least never denied it. Whatever not the point who pays him be it the company or Williams. Williams is in charge and allows it. That was the point. You realize Clone posters (outside of a handful) mock the situation and don’t post in the “cesspool” anymore. My point was that is not good for business. Your biggest poster has relagated what used to be an active forum into a few people saying the same thing over and over and Clone fans asking how to opt out of it.

I don't post their either and I've opted out so I don't even see the in state rivals board. Posting the same stuff over and over is the nature of instate rivals forums everywhere which is why most people grow out of it pretty quick.

I don't know anything about Twins. I could care less about him, and if anybody is lying about it it's him to tweak people like you. Again, the money just doesn't work out. He doesn't get paid to drive traffic to the site because there is almost no amount of traffic he could direct that would offset the cost of paying someone to drive it, especially in this online ad economy.
 
ISU @ #18 TTech tomorrow and @ KState Saturday. KState may be their only serious opportunity for a win. 0-18 in conference with a 17 game losing streak would be nice.
 
I don't post their either and I've opted out so I don't even see the in state rivals board. Posting the same stuff over and over is the nature of instate rivals forums everywhere which is why most people grow out of it pretty quick.

I don't know anything about Twins. I could care less about him, and if anybody is lying about it it's him to tweak people like you. Again, the money just doesn't work out. He doesn't get paid to drive traffic to the site because there is almost no amount of traffic he could direct that would offset the cost of paying someone to drive it, especially in this online ad economy.
All fair. And you are totally correct. I was only basing it on what he and others on there have said and he surely doesn’t deny it. And it doesn’t “tweak” me as much as I find it sad and pathetic. Anyway, I do enjoy your banter on here. Keep up the good fight!
 
ISU @ #18 TTech tomorrow and @ KState Saturday. KState may be their only serious opportunity for a win. 0-18 in conference with a 17 game losing streak would be nice.

If they dont win either one of these 2, they will have to try again next year to snap their road losing streak that has been going since February of 2019.
 
According to CF poster:
“Dubar and Blackwell have tons of potential and will be better than Iowa’s 2020 class.”

Looking at the box score neither of these 2 guys even saw the floor last night in a blowout loss. Only one freshman saw the floor on a team that is 2-19. That's not a good sign. Also see Bolton didn't play. Not sure why but doubt it would've made a difference in the outcome last night. Sure that guy is loving his move to Ames..... Funny reason he left was because of the coach who is now gone at PSU. Now PSU sucks this year but still better than ISU and would've been a tourney team last year but least he gets to chuck up his shots and turn the ball over and doesn't have to worry about sitting on the bench in Ames.
 
Prohm has actually been a pretty decent recruiter. He's got a highly rated PG coming in next year and he signed players like Talen Tucker-Horton, Lindell Wigginton and Tyrese Halliburton, any of which I would have loved to seen on the Hawks. Unfortunately for the Clowns, he couldn't even win consistently with these players and then rapidly lost them all to the pros. A bunch of his other HS recruits never stuck around long enough to even evaluate. Either guys don't like playing for him or he just can't coach at this level.
 
Prohm has actually been a pretty decent recruiter. He's got a highly rated PG coming in next year and he signed players like Talen Tucker-Horton, Lindell Wigginton and Tyrese Halliburton, any of which I would have loved to seen on the Hawks. Unfortunately for the Clowns, he couldn't even win consistently with these players and then rapidly lost them all to the pros. A bunch of his other HS recruits never stuck around long enough to even evaluate. Either guys don't like playing for him or he just can't coach at this level.

He has also recruited a ton of duds and guys that either never made it to campus or left before making an imact.

He has way, way more misses in recruiting than he does hits.

Brady Ernst
Nick Noskowiak
Simeon Carter
Cam Lard
Jakolby Long
Emmanuel Malou
Terrance Lewis
George Conditt
Zion Griffin
Caleb Grill
Luke Anderson
Tre Jackson
Marcedus Leech

From this years freshmen class, I struggle to see Darlinstone Dubar or Dudley Blackwell every contributing much if they stick around.
 
The biggest unkept secret is Foster has one foot out the door in Ames. I'm not sure how they could be worse next year, but I don't see them being much better.
 
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