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OT - Oklahoma v Villanova

Oklahoma played in possibly the easiest bracket ever to get the Final Four. Obviously the only way the B12 could get a team to the Final Four and it was proven how much of a fraud they were.
 
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Iowa definitely was not as bad as we thought in this tournament. NOVA is the best team hands down and I don't care if UNC somehow beats them. We had the misfortune of meeting them the 2nd game,but we earned it because of losing to PSU and Illinois. When you have shooters and a big that can score..Wow..I hope that this is what Fran has planned for us.
 
Oklahoma played in possibly the easiest bracket ever to get the Final Four. Obviously the only way the B12 could get a team to the Final Four and it was proven how much of a fraud they were.

Could not agree more..... It was a definite thank you to the OK AD selection committee chairman. You could have put about 12 teams knocked out of the other brackets in the West and any of them would have made it to the final four. Best OK wins came against the worst 2 performing power 5/7 conferences.

Now go back and examine the Big 12's best wins in the tourney.... Maryland? All that great seeding or they would have been out again by the final 16.
 
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I just wonder if the Oklahoma fans are hoping several of their 7 freshman will transfer because they didn't get many minutes this year and that means they obviously are not talented enough to play division 1 basketball.
 
Why does the NCAA let any AD from a power 5 school chair the tournament? I don't follow the workings of the selection committee and who gets on it. But it just appears to be bad way to go about selecting and seeding teams. It was obvious the home cooking that went on for the Big12 to help them.
 
22-0 run in a National semifinal. That's gotta be historic, right?

This was the biggest ass whopping I can ever remember and I've watched every final 4 from Magic-Bird in 79 until now. Just a complete woodshed job.

Worst performances that I remember was Kentucky against Georgetown in 1984. Georgetown was a huge defensive minded team so they weren't going to blow anyone out but Kentucky couldn't make a shot to save their lives. 13 of 53 from the floor.

The worst beating I have seen in the final 4 until this one was UNLV spanking Duke in the 1990 championship game.
 
So much Big 12 hate in this thread, lol. I figured the conference hate would've died down when no Big 10 teams cleared the sweet 16 but I guess not. Oklahoma had a favorable draw I agree but sometimes that happens. They were just lucky to dodge some of the juggernauts like Middle Tennessee State University and University of Arkansas-Little Rock.
 
So much Big 12 hate in this thread, lol. I figured the conference hate would've died down when no Big 10 teams cleared the sweet 16 but I guess not. Oklahoma had a favorable draw I agree but sometimes that happens. They were just lucky to dodge some of the juggernauts like Middle Tennessee State University and University of Arkansas-Little Rock.
Please don't forget the Big12 sucks just as bad in football! That was the 3rd Big12 team to reach the Final Four Since 2000?! And that was the result?! Beautiful
 
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So much Big 12 hate in this thread, lol. I figured the conference hate would've died down when no Big 10 teams cleared the sweet 16 but I guess not. Oklahoma had a favorable draw I agree but sometimes that happens. They were just lucky to dodge some of the juggernauts like Middle Tennessee State University and University of Arkansas-Little Rock.

Yale & SF Austin say hello to the undisputed number 1 basketball conference year after year.
 
My god the living-vicariously-through-your-conference-and-opponents sh!t gets old. Obviously since Nova beat OU by 44, we would have beaten OU by 20. Clearly Iowa would have gone through the entire B12 undefeated. No matter that our own conference flamed out pretty hard this year. And obviously the Big East is the best conference in America even though they got exactly one team passed the second round.

Nova>Iowa>GS Warriors>Oklahoma

Transitive property doesn't work in sports
 
To the Big12 lover..send your check to the OKIE AD who gave your conference seeding way beyond what your conference deserved. Which paved the way to your 'success'.
 
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My god the living-vicariously-through-your-conference-and-opponents sh!t gets old. Obviously since Nova beat OU by 44, we would have beaten OU by 20. Clearly Iowa would have gone through the entire B12 undefeated. No matter that our own conference flamed out pretty hard this year. And obviously the Big East is the best conference in America even though they got exactly one team passed the second round.

Nova>Iowa>GS Warriors>Oklahoma

Transitive property doesn't work in sports

I am not seeing too many posts claiming the B1G was a fantastic conference this season. Coming into the tourney it was considered to be the third or fourth best.

This resulted in poorer seeding but the B1G still managed to get 3 teams into the second week which was the same as the Big 12 which was ONCE AGAIN considered to be the overwhelming best conference in America. Tell me you heard that all year like the rest of us? They got rewarded seeding wise for that notion. We found out the ACC was the best. Nova was pretty darn salty and Kansas was pretty good too (no surprise for them).

MSU & Purdue crapped the bed but so did WVU (SF Austin), Baylor (Yale) and Texas (UNI). UNI to lessor extent but if your conference is number 1 you have to beat an MVC team do you not? We were told how the tourney could not live without upstart Texas Tech until they were bounced opening round by the Big East.

Meanwhile look at who knocked out the remaining B1G teams. Two of the teams lost to the championship game teams, although decidedly but still legit teams.

The best wins by the Big12 are either Maryland or Oregon? That West region OK came out of was horrifically bad thanks to the selection committee thank you to the OK AD. Their wins were against 2 patsies, the SEC & PAC-12. The later 2 conferences were blown out of the tournament early. The first good team OK faces and they get beat by 44.

Earn the respect on the court Big 12 instead of having the media tell everyone how great your league is!
 
I am not seeing too many posts claiming the B1G was a fantastic conference this season. Coming into the tourney it was considered to be the third or fourth best.

This resulted in poorer seeding but the B1G still managed to get 3 teams into the second week which was the same as the Big 12 which was ONCE AGAIN considered to be the overwhelming best conference in America. Tell me you heard that all year like the rest of us? They got rewarded seeding wise for that notion. We found out the ACC was the best. Nova was pretty darn salty and Kansas was pretty good too (no surprise for them).

MSU & Purdue crapped the bed but so did WVU (SF Austin), Baylor (Yale) and Texas (UNI). UNI to lessor extent but if your conference is number 1 you have to beat an MVC team do you not? We were told how the tourney could not live without upstart Texas Tech until they were bounced opening round by the Big East.

Meanwhile look at who knocked out the remaining B1G teams. Two of the teams lost to the championship game teams, although decidedly but still legit teams.

The best wins by the Big12 are either Maryland or Oregon? That West region OK came out of was horrifically bad thanks to the selection committee thank you to the OK AD. Their wins were against 2 patsies, the SEC & PAC-12. The later 2 conferences were blown out of the tournament early. The first good team OK faces and they get beat by 44.

Earn the respect on the court Big 12 instead of having the media tell everyone how great your league is!
This absolutely sums up everything. All Big12/ISU fans should be forced to read this. There's zero to argue with in this whole post.

Can we save this post for Big12 football season? Switch a few words and it should suffice.
 
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I am not seeing too many posts claiming the B1G was a fantastic conference this season. Coming into the tourney it was considered to be the third or fourth best.

This resulted in poorer seeding but the B1G still managed to get 3 teams into the second week which was the same as the Big 12 which was ONCE AGAIN considered to be the overwhelming best conference in America. Tell me you heard that all year like the rest of us? They got rewarded seeding wise for that notion. We found out the ACC was the best. Nova was pretty darn salty and Kansas was pretty good too (no surprise for them).

MSU & Purdue crapped the bed but so did WVU (SF Austin), Baylor (Yale) and Texas (UNI). UNI to lessor extent but if your conference is number 1 you have to beat an MVC team do you not? We were told how the tourney could not live without upstart Texas Tech until they were bounced opening round by the Big East.

Meanwhile look at who knocked out the remaining B1G teams. Two of the teams lost to the championship game teams, although decidedly but still legit teams.

The best wins by the Big12 are either Maryland or Oregon? That West region OK came out of was horrifically bad thanks to the selection committee thank you to the OK AD. Their wins were against 2 patsies, the SEC & PAC-12. The later 2 conferences were blown out of the tournament early. The first good team OK faces and they get beat by 44.

Earn the respect on the court Big 12 instead of having the media tell everyone how great your league is!
I think those are reasonable statements for this season.
 
I think those are reasonable statements for this season.

Well I do too Lone Clone...very well done And 1 but the only thing I really care about is what the NOVA run to the NCAA Championship game means for a 19 pt loss to the Iowa Hawkeyes. Our very own were killing their young here with the Hawks for that game against Nova on 3/20.....there were a portion of us saying...Uh....this is a damn good Nova team but it was hard to find any silver lining or feel any better about that loss. Now we know NOVA is even better than that day ..... a lot better.,

Watching OU last night, I get what was going on now against this NOVA team....but a 44 point loss is not good at all for any team that makes it to the Final Four .....OU detractors will and probably should get a ton of mileage out of this loss.
 
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Please don't forget the Big12 sucks just as bad in football! That was the 3rd Big12 team to reach the Final Four Since 2000?! And that was the result?! Beautiful

That is unreal. What a fraud of a conference. No wonder Kansas wins it every single year.
 
Obviously, it was the officiating.

(That is a joke)
You may think it's a joke but what other explanation is there? I watched that game. I SAW the officials tipping Oklahoma shots out and Villanova shots in. It's always the officials. They're sly.
 
First team not named Kansas to make Final 4 in 15 years from the pillow fight Big 12.
That's not true. Oklahoma was there in 2002 and 2016. Texas was there in 2003. Oklahoma State in 2004. West Virginia in 2010 (joined 2012).

Kansas was there four times: 2012, 2008 (Champion), 2003, 2002
 
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That's not true. Oklahoma was there in 2002 and 2016. Texas was there in 2003. Oklahoma State in 2004. West Virginia in 2010 (joined 2012).

Kansas was there four times: 2012, 2008 (Champion), 2003, 2002
In other words, half the members of the Big XII have been to a Final Four in the past 15 years. Yeah, pretty weak league.
 
In other words, half the members of the Big XII have been to a Final Four in the past 15 years. Yeah, pretty weak league.

Wow 5 teams and about 5 appearances not named Kansas. Amazing

Big 10 has 7- 8 and about 25 apperances.
 
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In other words, half the members of the Big XII have been to a Final Four in the past 15 years. Yeah, pretty weak league.


You're going to have to spin much better than that....

In the never ending comparison of Big Ten versus big xii, the Big Ten wins hands down. More teams having made more appearances over the very same time period. And, as much as some would prefer to, let's not forget that the big xii really did have twelve teams until 2011.

Even the SEC has as many appearances in a Final Four as does the mighty big xii over the past fifteen years. The ACC makes the big xii look silly by comparison and even the ravished Big East is close.

Keep trying, LC.... as if someone posting here as frequently as you do is ever in doubt to do so.
 
In other words, half the members of the Big XII have been to a Final Four in the past 15 years. Yeah, pretty weak league.

Love that you include teams not even in the B12 getting to the Final Four to make your case and it's the only Final Four appearance outside of Kansas in the last decade prior to this year. LOL ten years isn't a long drought.
 
Love that you include teams not even in the B12 getting to the Final Four to make your case and it's the only Final Four appearance outside of Kansas in the last decade prior to this year. LOL ten years isn't a long drought.
I wasn't making a case one way or another, just correcting an erroneous post with facts. I made it clear when WVU joined so I wasn't hiding anything.
 
I wasn't making a case one way or another, just correcting an erroneous post with facts. I made it clear when WVU joined so I wasn't hiding anything.
And how many Nebraska players are on the all-time Big Ten team?
 
So what I learned from this thread is that the B10 has won more titles in basketball this century than the B12.
 
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