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I also like Cass as our heavy! I think he has a better career. We got the right guy between those two in my opinion, although I do agree with you that Michigan got a great heavyweight as well.
Parris is a beast but it’s hard to envision a title at any point for him. The 2018 is probably the best class of Hwts in a long time. My guess is that Parris has a career very similar to McMullan, who had a hell of a career despite not winning a title.
Bet he has a career similar to Telford. The best guy at the weight outside of the true title contenders.
I love Cass, especially how much he wrestles, and how he wrestles. I just think Parris has the better career but that we see them in the finals their senior year. I think we see Nevills have a career very similar to his brother, that he will be better than his brother but in a tougher weight. Gable is the ultimate problem and I don’t see anyone solving it...but Parris having the best chance with his natural athletic ability and the highest ceiling. I bet we see Cass go 3, 2, 3, 2 and that would be a great career for him.
Parris is a great athlete Snyder type but not as good Cass reminds me of Mocco but not as good I think they both have the tools to have really good college careers and whats between the ears will make the difference. Gable is on another level as of now but he can be caught I think if any of the three step on the mat with Snyder right now they dont score a point except an escape maybe Gable gets in one take down. For what I have seen I like Cass as a Hawk he has A lot of drive some more muscle and stamina which will come he will be right in the mix for the titles
I don't think Seth moves as well as Nick. Has always looked skilled, but big and slow to me.
Agreed on that notion and truthfully, you’re right. He does seem like a plodder.
Cass seems very Telfordish to me. I would see him beating someone ranked higher than him during the season but consistently finishing in the 4-6 range. If healthy, he could exceed Telford in AA finishes(Telford should have been a 4X AA without getting injured).
Cass is very solid, but guys like Steveson, Parris and Schultz look to have elite talent and that doesn't even account for guys like Hilger and Nevills. Cass is a great pick up, but not only are these other guys super talented, but most have great rooms with strong history at 285.
Steveson-Minnesota has been ridiculous at 285.
Parris-Will have Coon.
Hilger-Medberry
Nevills-Big Brother, Varner, Sanderson
I expect really good things from Cass, but I would have a hard time picking him over any of these guys. Can he beat them? Absolutely. But, a favorite? I just don't see it.
Edited to add: I completely forgot about Singletary at tOSU getting to benefit from having Snyder.
Man, I like Cass a lot, and in other years I would say he is a top 3 guy at 285. However, this group is so talented that he will have his hands full cracking the top 5.
Cass is very solid, but guys like Steveson, Parris and Schultz look to have elite talent and that doesn't even account for guys like Hilger and Nevills. Cass is a great pick up, but not only are these other guys super talented, but most have great rooms with strong history at 285.
Steveson-Minnesota has been ridiculous at 285.
Parris-Will have Coon.
Hilger-Medberry
Nevills-Big Brother, Varner, Sanderson
I expect really good things from Cass, but I would have a hard time picking him over any of these guys. Can he beat them? Absolutely. But, a favorite? I just don't see it.
Edited to add: I completely forgot about Singletary at tOSU getting to benefit from having Snyder.
Man, I like Cass a lot, and in other years I would say he is a top 3 guy at 285. However, this group is so talented that he will have his hands full cracking the top 5.
Barring injury, I can't imagine 8 Hwts per year better than this kid at any point in his competitive career. After a redshirt year spent developing and putting on good HWT size while simulatenously getting to train with Adam Coon, Paris is going to be a superstar for the Wolverines. With Big Cass, Gable, Cholton Schultz and Mason Paris coming in, the HWT division (which usually sucks) looks to be very exciting going forward.
There's another heavy out there that I was made aware has a HUGE interest in the Hawks. One that I feel has slipped under the radar due to an early verbal... He gives all the heavys listed all they want and then some IMO. Could be a package deal with another area hammer in the 2020 class if the staff plays their cards right. "Stay woke" as the kids say.
He’s referring kerkvliet. I’m happy with Cass and think we should be putting attention elsewhere.
Kerkvliet would be an absolutely MASSIVE get. He’s just starting to scratch the surface of his potential. Plus he’s definitely getting coached up at Pinnacle and Paulson has nothing but great things to say about him.
I hope the coaches are really going to go hard after him. Make the $$$ work like FSU and fOSU have been. That’s what we gotta start doing.
I hope the coaches are really going to go hard after him. Make the $$$ work like FSU and fOSU have been. That’s what we gotta start doing.
A couple of you have compared Cassioppi to Telford. I don't know how their college careers will compare, but they aren't that similar in style. Cassioppi is definitely more active and athletic. While I appreciated Telford's effort for the Hawks, he wasn't always the most exciting guy to watch. I think we'll find Cassioppi much more fun to watch on the mat.
I personally wouldn't feel very good about recruiting over Cassioppi, but maybe these are the types of moves that need to be made to keep up with PSU. They don't seem to care that they get a top 30 kid in one class, and bring in someone of equal or higher ranking in the next class at the same weight. Talent is talent, and getting elite talent in the room is the first step to reclaiming the throne. Kirk could have some flexibility if he can secure a JR world medal these next 2 FS seasons, giving him an Olympic RS and a Regular RS.. but there would still be 2 years of overlap in that scenario.
All I know is that 2019 and 2020 recruiting classes better be a damn good haul. I'd set the bar at 5 elite recruits (Top 20 guys, preferably Top 10) needed in those 2 classes.
Also: I see on the Guillotine a couple people have said that Kirkvliet has decommitted from the Gophers. He recently took a visit to Nebraska as well.
All I know is that 2019 and 2020 recruiting classes better be a damn good haul. I'd set the bar at 5 elite recruits (Top 20 guys, preferably Top 10) needed in those 2 classes.
Also: I see on the Guillotine a couple people have said that Kirkvliet has decommitted from the Gophers. He recently took a visit to Nebraska as well.
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When you are many times better than the guy across the mat from you it is much more easy to look/be active. Not trying to say you're wrong but I think we have to wait and see before making that determination.
I agree that we have concerns at other weights, but settling for Cass over a kid like Kerk is delusional.
4ever I agree with your assessment regarding Cass's athleticism and activity. I recall watching Telford when he was being recruited and he was much more exciting then. He wrestled like a middleweight. Most HS heavies to the Hwt waltz for a couple till one turtle takes the other turtle down and pins him. Big Bobby was very active with leg attacks and displayed solid technique. On top he used turks and would use other leg-ride techniques. In college it became tougher for him to score. Guys are bigger, faster stronger etc. But, at the same time, he was difficult to score on as well. Big Bobby represented the Hawks well and got to stand on that podium many times. I think Cass has all the make-up to be electric, but he's gotta put on some size. His technique, motor and style are all fantastic, I could see him struggling with a guy like, well Bobby T, who has great D and has the ability to shut the other guy down without getting called for stalling.
Agree. Kirk has the talent to win national championships (even with Gable at the weight). If he's at all interested in Iowa, you play that through til the end.
That is not a knock on Cass, who I already said I think is very good and will be better than someone like Parris.
Big Bobby D fan. But I would say that Bobby didn't really change levels very often to get off his shots. Perhaps that was a result of being 6 foot 4, with long legs. Having watched Cass a few times, I noticed that he does a good job of changing levels and getting to his opponent's legs. Will it continue against better competition, who knows? I'm hopeful.
I don't consider Cassiopi a settle. Gable is the only HWT prospect in the country that is without a doubt a better prospect. Several others that are very good, but at similar levels. Cassiopi and Kerk are both in that group.
The Cass/Telford comparisons are ridiculous... Two styles that couldn't be more different. I have no idea how anyone could watch Cass and have him remind them of Telford.
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