Petras discussion on XM 84 now...
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Eh, that's not KF's style. He is stubborn and loyal. Even if he were to think Petras was the worst QB in the world, he wouldn't do that to a player.
The guy ran for over 1000 yards.
I get he wasn't a downhill runner, but the revisionism is getting out of hand.
As a much younger man sitting in the student section, I recall booing Matt Sherman from the stands one Saturday afternoon. I woke up the next morning and realized that he was doing the absolute best he could to help his team win, and that if he underperformed, it was the coach's fault for not recruiting someone better than a 1A QB from St. Ansgar and expecting him to shred Ohio State and Michigan every week. I haven't booed an Iowa player since.
And damn, looking back on it now I would have killed for someone like Sherman to have been under center this year.
And damn, looking back on it now I would have killed for someone like Sherman to have been under center this year.
I think you weren't paying attention. Or you need glasses...
You think goodson performed better than the backs did last game? Lmao again.
Goodson hasn't shown to be better than we saw in the game!!
The only thing Stanley didn't improve on by his senior year was his TD numbers, and that was due to losing 2 1st round TEs.
He's the 2nd best statistical passer in Iowa history and the 3rd winningest QB. It's amazing how some people refuse to acknowledge him in the face of mountains of evidence.
Yes, as we all know, one game a pattern makes.
I know it's kinda your schtick to make lazy "hot takes", but c'mon.
It's amazing how you ignore those two elite targets he had in your 2nd part!!!!
Dude still overthrow 80% of guys down field.
Wtf are you talking about moron? My post was about goodson not being an improvement for that one game...which is what that post implied You think he would have performed better than Gavin?
If you can't follow a Convo then move along
And yet he still threw 16 TDs without them, with two turnstiles playing guard.
Starting to wonder if you're really just that dense.
With the holes the OL were opening up? Yeah. Again, the dude ran for over 1000 yards. If he were anywhere near the nonfactor you're claiming him to be, he wouldn't have sniffed that.
It's okay for you to not make sweeping, declarative statements about things you know nothing about.
The QB accuracy thing boggles my mind. In our offense the QB is usually taking one read and throwing, rolling out to one or two options and throwing, and screen passes. We aren't taking many deep shots, seem routes (some TE), etc. Completion % should be WAY higher than what we tend to see.
I don't understand how one can be confident Padilla is not the answer. He only played in a couple of games and did not get 1st team reps in practice like Spencer has. Petra's has definitely been given every opportunity to pull away from the competition and he simply has not done that.
He got all of the 1st team reps in practice from NW till after Illinois, and split them with Petras after that.
He throws a very wobbly, difficult to catch ball, evidenced by his 49% completion rate. As bad as he is, Petras at least gets 57.3%. Not an amazing decision maker either, as he should have had about 3-4 more INTs thrown.
And while he is more mobile than SP, his pocket presence isn't that much better. He could improve this offseason, but I really don't think we've seen anything from him that definitively states he's the better option. If anything, I think he hampers us slightly, with less knowledge of the offense and less arm talent.
Petras is the quarterback next year, and I'm fine with that. If Linderbaum returns, I'd actually prefer it.
Tracy is good, but he's not the level of WR Bell is, nor is he the same type of WR. Tracy is best when he has other options to take the heat off of him. When he's the #1 guy, like this year, he struggles.
I disagree. Though I am a big defender of KF, I think he is stuck in the mindset that the offense doesn't work due to a lack of execution and that if everyone picks up their assignment, everything should work. That works on paper, but not necessarily in reality.
I mean, we tried to feature him. He couldn't consistently get separation though.
In fairness to Kirk, because I do agree with what you posted, to some extent, execution does play a larger factor than we as fans can see live. A guy on Twitter who posts using Hawkeye Game Film for example broke down a handful of plays that were blown up by Michigan because one guy tripped, missed a block, etc. the sorts of things that aren’t easily noticed by us as fans, especially when we don’t know the actual playcalls.
the counterpoint of course to that is that a scheme shouldn’t have to work perfectly every time or else we’re doomed. Kirk has, in the past, when things were bad enough, made major changes when they were clearly needed so i have some hope in this area. I’m not sure we’re talking reinventing the wheel here, but things like simplifying the route trees for receivers, reworking the outside zone, etc shouldn’t require major overhauls imo (from a layman’s perspective at least).
Yeah, I fully expect to see Tracy do well, it IS a pass-happy offense after, it’s not like he’s a 5* prospect we criminally underused. Tracy did his best as a RS frosh filling in for an injured Brandon smith as the #2/#3 receiver. At least in our scheme, we found out he wasn’t well-suited as a #1. And success in Brohms offense doesn’t me we failed to use him well. Sometimes the fit simply isn’t there.
Yes and no, and it’s part of the offense that needs to be overhauled imo. We have had receivers do well in our offense, they’re just not featured because of our run-first philosophy.
But it’s not run dominant. It’s balanced 50-50. But even then look at WR numbers basically since McNutt left. Not good. Rarely throw down the field to WRs. Bad route trees and not very accurate QBs. Other systems make it much easier for both the QBs and WRs.
Execution is everything and if a play is executed by all eleven guys, a team will gain positive yards and whatever the play design was based upon for net yardage. However.... What Iowa seems to lose out on is plays that are made because a player goes off script when they see something. If I'm a receiver and my coverage guy drops off me I am running for the goal line. Iowa is horrible about seeing those miscues and going off script. They are so focused on run the play called or the audible called and gosh forbid see the whole field.
That was the worst part of watching Iowa and Kentucky, there were a half dozen blown coverages in that game and we just don't see them. I firmly believe they are to focused on the execution at times.
Yeah, Spencer is horrible at reading the field. I don't know how many times I have seen that if he could actually read the field and wait a second there is a guy breaking wide open down the field. Of course, then it is a question of whether he will actually complete the pass or miss him by 20 yards.
Run-dominant is not the same thing as run-first in my mind, so maybe we’re arguing semantics. But since McNutt, we’ve still had KMM, Tevaun, ISM, and Brandon Smith. But part of that is our offensive philosophy, which is similar to Wisconsin. Kirks best offenses, the big pass plays come off of play action.
I agree the route tree needs to be more receiver friendly.
If he throws a wobbly, difficult to catch ball, then what in the hell is KOK doing about it? Isn’t a QB coach suppose to identify issues and correct them? Keep supporting KOK.
He only has so much practice time with a qb. They have 9 on 7, 7 on 7, and team. With the individual time they have left what are the other QBs supposed to be doing while KoK is working with just Padilla.
Ok, ignore a mechanics issue with a qb and keep allowing him to throw a ball that’s difficult to catch? Makes sense.
With limited time, what's more important to a college coach? Work around the mechanics they have to fit the scheme they run and get the guy to know and operate the offense at the maximum level, or take time out of your limited amount of practice hours to work on mechanics?
Why do you think Tebow's mechanics never got fixed in college?
Let's be fair. Kentucky finished the season ranked in the high 20s for points allowed and low 30s for yards allowed, neither terribly far behind Iowa. Calling that "subpar" is disingenuous.
Many of the bullets weren't even close. If he gets that scared he shouldn't be playing.
But he will call out the fans and say stupid shit like “We not the #2 team, chuckle chuckle”
He’s wrong. Iowa needs another QB and he should be exploring all options if that other QB isn’t already in the room
Yeah, he wasn't wrong about that though. We weren't the number 2 team.
He might be stubborn, but he does know a shitload more than the fans do.
Even if it’s true you don’t say it. Just like Scott Frost throwing his players under the bus.
I said this in another thread and I’ll say it again, Kirk Ference has zero clue who these fans are on social media and who they truly represent and what teams they actually cheer for.
Time to be a big ****ing grown man and shut off the outside noise and focus on the inside of the room.
None of this is anything it’s just drama and BS that’s never going to stop. Swallow it grow up and be a man and realize this is just part of the game.
And before you go crying about player the whatever I don’t agree with it I don’t get on social media and ripping the players.
I’m only assessing my thoughts based off of performance of the football team that I like to watch and invest my money in.
My thoughts are mine they do not represent everybody’s.
Just like the bad thoughts/tweets.
