You're acting like he went on an hour-long rant about it. It was a throwaway line in a radio interview. I'm 100% certain the fans care about it more than he does.
Petras discussion on XM 84 now...
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KOK correcting mechanics is a misnomer that most fans just don't seem to grasp. Coaches only have so much time during the spring, fall camp, and during the season to work with the players. These players all have individual coaches they hire to improve footwork, throwing mechanics and release. If they had unlimited time to work on those things with the Iowa coaches, it would be great. They have limited amount of time to drill, and they do the best they can in a short amount of time. I am not sticking up for coaches, but both Spencer's personal coach and Padilla's have spoken about their players and how they have improved. I don't know either of them so I will not comment on them as coaches, but my eyes and your eyes can tell if players improve or not.
There are also guys that just don't get it. Their form sucks, like Connor McCaffery's shot. All the coaching in the world is not going to change it in far too many cases.
So much of how a QB performs depends on the play of the 10 other guys executing the play, the play called, the adjustments called at the line due to the opponents D and the resulting match-ups, I always find it interesting how much blame lands on the QB.
With the inexperience and poor health at O-Line at the start of the season, 10 wins was going to be the best we could expect. And, a good goal at that. 3-0 non conference, 7-2 conference, West Title, B1G Championship Game and Citrus Bowl, was simply awesome, especially for the youngest team in the league if not the country.
You have to split a lot of hairs to blame the QB for all of our 4 losses. Slow start of our Defense could own two of those loses all by themselves. All and all, it was a great season.
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Absolutely, but both things can be true here. A lot of things contributed to the struggles on offense this year. I gave Spencer a pass for last year because of the lack of spring practice, the screwed up summer, the on again, off again fall; and he did seem to show improvement towards the end of the season. i can’t honestly say I saw progression from him this season.
"No, it's very difficult to ascertain exactly... which society is responsible for causing Vlad Malevich to become what he was". - Leo Demidov , Child 44.
In other words, it is very difficult to ascertain which influence is responsible for the outcome of a single play or several plays (OC, QB, O-Line, Defense). Perhaps both are true, both or all are responsible, no doubt.
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First it was an ok defense during the season as shown above. Along Illinois lines but with all the guys they had out they were subpar.
Even with the missing guys that was a solid defense. Stoops has done a good job developing that team.
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"So much of how a QB performs depends on the play of the 10 other guys executing the play, the play called, the adjustments called at the line due to the opponents D and the resulting match-ups, I always find it interesting how much blame lands on the QB".There's a cliche phrase for this, of which I agree........."if things go well, the QB gets too much credit, if things go badly, the QB gets too much blame". Otherwise, one of those example of "damned if you do, damned if you don't".....oh well.
What was it about the execution of the other 10 players on the team that caused Petras to miss a wide open receiver by 5 yards while having all kinds of time in the pocket at least twice during the Citrus Bowl?
Ragaini could have ran a bad route. He could have broker more horizontal and Spencer anticipated him breaking vertical.
Nice try. Both of those plays had a large margin of error and SP still managed to miss it badly. I agree that it is a team sport with many moving parts, but QB is the most important position, and SP is terrible and not suited for P-5 ball, plain and simple. Defending his play is a fruitless task.
Gotta say MTF is pretty spot on. It's the window into the major problem with Spencer. Unlike Alex, Spencer was not a low percentage passer. Almost 57%. Not great but not terrible either. The problem isn't just misses but misses on crucial drive extending plays.
Spencer's only way of making big plays is connecting on passes, cuz he's not running anywhere. When you miss so many 3rd down passes or throw wildly on 2nd down where a reception generates a first down.
Too bad for the kid but it doesn't look like that dog can hunt.
57% in todays game where the offense has every advantage is terrible. The only 3 starting qb's in the NFL under 60% are Trevor Lawrence, Zac Wilson and Justin fields. The majority are over 65%. Now I'm not just blaming Petras as I think our schemes and routes and such are clearly not good. 60% should be the bare minimum for a Qb in the modern game. What I find interesting about Petras is he can absolutely fire a ball into a tight window as he's done multiple times to LaPorta over the season. Yet when a guy is wide open he misses him by a mile. Just don't understand it.
No way. Brian has done nothing to even be mentioned for the head job. As someone on this board alluded to, this isn't a family business. If he would leave, have some success, then get hired that's fine. Just handing him the keys to the program because of who he is related to is not.
It’s why I defended Petras after last season and the start of this year…there’s no question in my mind he CAN make every throw, and I’m sure that’s why the coaches like him. But between his lack of pocket presence, and those inexplicable throws…it’s a very hard sell now.
Had the offense taken major steps forward he past couple years and the team saw more success as a result, they might have been able to sell it. after the Doyle saga last summer, and the step backward this year especially…no way.
I don't have an issue with the Ferentz family. They are, and have been, well compensated during their employment at Iowa. With that said the U of I owes them nothing. I feel like people want Brian because Kirk has been here so long and they feel it's owed
Nope, it was XM 84 and they were talking about their 'pre production' meeting with Kirk and staff prior to Citrus Bowl, unless of course there's a podcast online but no...wasn't an interview with a Kirk snippet.
initially that might have been true. Hiring Brian now would be highly divisive. I don’t know that I believe that a major segment of the fan base wanted him because we owed Kirk. At best, you had some who felt if anyone could get Kirk to open the offense up, it would be Brian; but we haven’t seen that to date.
Having researched the QB stats I'm amend from "not great" to "bad." In fact, although I did a rough count, that might be in the bottom ten starters nationally, that's ten, not ten percent. More frightening, that's over 7% better than Alex.
Right on with this one. He missed Ragaini the most. Nico is good at popping open 8-12 yards downfield, really good at it. Spencer over or underthrows that pass or throws behind the 75% of the time. It should be among the easiest completions because its quick and we have at least one guy who runs the route well.
We do agree once in awhile!
This situation seems more like Stanzi vs. Christensen than the longer competition between Rudock and Beathard. Two future NFL QBs competing for the job is not the situation we have now. The coaches see the same things we do.
Almost no one though Jake C was going to be the long-term starter, certainly not me, and I think they just wanted to see if the new guy with no game experience could handle game pressure. Although Ricky wasn't great at first he could handle game pressure and the athletic upside was unmistakable. Jake hit the pine, never to return. Worst case scenario I think that's what will happen. Still optimistic we won't even see Spencer or Alex in a game next year.
GotchaI did not say HEAD COACH, I said a coach. Big difference.
Wow i called it last fall, his stubborness. WOW
When I boo, I am not booing the players its always the coaching staff. There is a FireBrianFerentz.com Website I have never seen a "BenchPlayer1.com" website Maybe cause these guys are still just kids and it is the coaches that put them on the field, prepare them, and bring them to Iowa to begin with.
No chance Kirk thinks Spencer is better than Alex….nope, it’s got to be “stubbornness”…JFC!
Absolutely. And it’s not even close. Can’t fault Spencer for the O being this shitty when it’s been this shitty consistently under BF.
Brian Ferentz is "public enemy #1". He's the OC and QB coach.
I hope Iowa focuses on the following in Petras practice sessions with the 1's.
1) Throwing accurately while running for his life. When you have multiple offensive linemen completely whiffing...the desperate throw with multiple defensive players getting to you in 1.5 seconds is critical.
2) Throwing from his back. This is going to be important...with the combination of Jones, Dunker, and Stephens in the middle of the line...the turnstile is open.
3) Workout for the Iowa offensive linemen...where they work to chase down the DE/DTs who have slipped by them. The guys need to learn to tackle them from behind...with the focus on wrapping up. This year...this has been important as against Nevada...I saw 7 times where an OL completely whiffed then chased the defender to his QB. Tackle them damn it.
Unless the issues are fixed on the OL...nothing is going to get better. Frankly I thought Petras' play on Saturday was great considering.
1) Throwing accurately while running for his life. When you have multiple offensive linemen completely whiffing...the desperate throw with multiple defensive players getting to you in 1.5 seconds is critical.
2) Throwing from his back. This is going to be important...with the combination of Jones, Dunker, and Stephens in the middle of the line...the turnstile is open.
3) Workout for the Iowa offensive linemen...where they work to chase down the DE/DTs who have slipped by them. The guys need to learn to tackle them from behind...with the focus on wrapping up. This year...this has been important as against Nevada...I saw 7 times where an OL completely whiffed then chased the defender to his QB. Tackle them damn it.
Unless the issues are fixed on the OL...nothing is going to get better. Frankly I thought Petras' play on Saturday was great considering.
