Pew Pew Chicago

[Pete Malloy]

Chicago shootings: 26 shot, 8 fatally in Mothers Day weekend gun violence across city, police say.​

Last weekend, at least 20 people were shot, four fatally, including a Chicago police officer, CPD said.

Chicago shootings: 26 shot, 8 fatally in weekend gun violence across city, police say

At least 26 people have been shot, eight fatally, in gun violence across Chicago so far this weekend, police said.

abc7chicago.com

 

[jawatkins]

You’re right Pete we need better gun control

 

[Pete Malloy]

You’re right Pete we need better gun control

Gun control is not the problem.

How about just prosecuting and incarcerating criminals.

 

[jawatkins]

Gun control is not the problem.

How about just prosecuting and incarcerating criminals.

Gun control would have stopped the criminals from having guns. Stop the problem before it starts, it’s a better idea.

 

[Pete Malloy]

Gun control would have stopped the criminals from having guns. Stop the problem before it starts, it’s a better idea.

99.9% of the gun owners in America shoot nobody.

 

[RagnarLothbrok]

Gun control would have stopped the criminals from having guns.

If only that were true.

The greater issue is why so many resort to violence. It just seems to be permanently embedded in our culture. Sad.

 

[theVoicefromtheTomb]

Gun control is not the problem.

How about just prosecuting and incarcerating criminals.

Please tell us how to identify the criminals before they act

 

[Pete Malloy]

Please tell us how to identify the criminals before they act

Let's start actually prosecuting and imprisoning those who are found guilty. It is asinine to hear that some criminal has been arrested and convicted 40 times in the past prior to finally killing someone.

 

[jawatkins]

99.9% of the gun owners in America shoot nobody.

And yet some go out and slaughter children.

 

[Pete Malloy]

And yet some go out and slaughter children.

And your point is what?

 

[FAUlty Gator]

Gun control would have stopped the criminals from having guns. Stop the problem before it starts, it’s a better idea.

How many of the shooters do you think legally owned the gun or had a permit to carry in Chicago?

 

[Thunderlips71]

Those people sure have a funny way of celebrating

 

[hawkbirch]

Let's start actually prosecuting and imprisoning those who are found guilty. It is asinine to hear that some criminal has been arrested and convicted 40 times in the past prior to finally killing someone.

Are you ready to pay for the enormous tax hike needed to implement your idea?

 

[denmar81]

Are you ready to pay for the enormous tax hike needed to implement your idea?

Let’s eliminate all police and have lower taxes.

 

[NoleinATL]

Gun control is not the problem.

How about just prosecuting and incarcerating criminals.

The US has one of the highest incarceration rates in the world, building more, bigger and even private prisons has not stopped the terrible gun violence in Chicago and beyond. What other solutions would you propose?

 

[hawkbirch]

Let’s eliminate all police and have lower taxes.

I want no part of living in that society.

 

[fredjr82]

Hey Pete, sweet thread. I'll bet it changes a lot of minds.

 

[BioHawk]

99.9% of the gun owners in America shoot nobody.

It's awesome that you are willing to put a specific value on the number of children you find acceptable just so you can fire off 100 rounds in a couple of minutes in your backyard.

 

[OutbackBowl2017]

Sounds like Chicago needs to resort to New York City style policing with stop and frisk with a huge police presence in the areas of the city that are the most problematic. It’s been going on for years and must stop.

Lived in Richmond, VA when it was the murder capital of the US and the police chief Jerry Oliver said we are going to stop this and did by applying a program called Project Exile. Use a gun in a crime, you are gone for a minimum of five years in prison. They didn’t mess around and changed what was happening in the city. This needs to happen in Chicago.

 

[Kinnick.At.Night]

Lived in Richmond, VA when it was the murder capital of the US and the police chief Jerry Oliver said we are going to stop this and did by applying a program called Project Exile. Use a gun in a crime, you are gone for a minimum of five years in prison. They didn’t mess around and changed what was happening in the city. This needs to happen in Chicago.

I'd like to hear more about this, because a five year prison sentence for using a gun during a crime isn't exciting in the least. It's way less than mandatory in numerous states for numerous crimes.

 

[Pete Malloy]

The US has one of the highest incarceration rates in the world, building more, bigger and even private prisons has not stopped the terrible gun violence in Chicago and beyond. What other solutions would you propose?

So?

Incarcerate more of them, we all know that in cities like Chicago it's basically catch and release with criminals.

 

[SA_Hawk]

It's awesome that you are willing to put a specific value on the number of children you find acceptable just so you can fire off 100 rounds in a couple of minutes in your backyard.

$2,000,000/gun and you can have mine. If you want our guns make us rich in the process. Gun reparations know no racial or economic boundaries. I mean it’s for the children right?

 

[Kinnick.At.Night]

So?

Incarcerate more of them, we all know that in cities like Chicago it's basically catch and release with criminals.

He basically just dismantled you. And you don't even realize it.

 

[FAUlty Gator]

The US has one of the highest incarceration rates in the world, building more, bigger and even private prisons has not stopped the terrible gun violence in Chicago and beyond. What other solutions would you propose?

Well how about in the meantime we build more to just deal with all the ass holes randomly punching old ladies for no reason? They don’t need to be fancy. Just four walls. Don’t even feed them.

 

[IowaPackFan]

Need more info before knowing how much to care. How many were not gang members killing other gang members?

 

[NoleinATL]

So?

Incarcerate more of them, we all know that in cities like Chicago it's basically catch and release with criminals.

The "so" is that incarceration has not been an effective deterrent to gun violence, which is why I asked for an alternative proposal. Is our only hope to lock everyone up?
What about a policy that anyone that commits a crime with a gun is executed?

 

[DropitlikeitsHawk]

Hey Pete, sweet thread. I'll bet it changes a lot of minds.

Pot meet kettle.

 

[Pete Malloy]

He basically just dismantled you. And you don't even realize it.

I realize the silly point he was trying to make.

The lefts position however is once a prison or jail reached its max occupancy we just start either releasing people or quit sentencing them.

 

[SA_Hawk]

Came across this….

• I suppose this is as much in the Public Policy sphere as anything, but I was floored to hear this morning that the CME (Chicago Mercantile Exchange) is prepared to leave Chicago based on “political and safety conditions.” The Chicago Exchange for derivatives and commodities not being in Chicago (where it started in 1898) would be a stunning statement in this period of questionable big-city management. They have not decided to exit yet, but are actively looking and preparing if deemed necessary.

 

[win1forthe]

I thought we just needed to pray more. Oh, and include them in our thoughts.

 

[MeetTheFerentzes]

What about a policy that anyone that commits a crime with a gun is executed?

How ‘bout shot in the balls with the same number of bullets from the same weapon the crime was committed with? I actually think that would deter more potential violent crimes than the death penalty.

 

[Pete Malloy]

It's awesome that you are willing to put a specific value on the number of children you find acceptable just so you can fire off 100 rounds in a couple of minutes in your backyard.

Your answer to the problem is to obviously take the guns away from the 99.9% who don't commit gun crimes, is that right?

 

[Pete Malloy]

Gun control would have stopped the criminals from having guns. Stop the problem before it starts, it’s a better idea.

How so?

 

[win1forthe]

Your answer to the problem is to obviously take the guns away from the 99.9% who don't commit gun crimes, is that right?

Well, one guy yells ‘fire’ in a theatre and now none of us can yell ‘fire’. Life isn’t fair.

 

[NoleinATL]

Well how about in the meantime we build more to just deal with all the ass holes randomly punching old ladies for no reason? They don’t need to be fancy. Just four walls. Don’t even feed them.

I do not think we need more prison space, just a more efficient use of the space.
Release all non violent drug charge convicts which would free up a great deal of space. Then reinstitute hard labor, for the violent offenders , as the current isolation models are not a deterrent and incredibly punitive mentally.

 

[gamedayron01]

Good guys with guns sleeping on the job again?

 

[NoleinATL]

How ‘bout shot in the balls with the same number of bullets from the same weapon the crime was committed with? I actually think that would deter more potential violent crimes than the death penalty.

Cost would be exorbitant, wounding people and then rehabilitating them is silly when you could just kill them and be done

 

[Pete Malloy]

Well, one guy yells ‘fire’ in a theatre and now none of us can yell ‘fire’. Life isn’t fair.

Bad analogy

 

[Whiskeydeltadeltatango]

Good guys with guns sleeping on the job again?

Maga gave up on Chicago.

 

[BioHawk]

Your answer to the problem is to obviously take the guns away from the 99.9% who don't commit gun crimes, is that right?

Not at all, but you, and other acolytes in the church of the NRA, are not even slightly interested in resolving this issue and you are perfectly ok with averaging more than one mass shooting a day. From what I can tell, you don't even recognize that there is a problem.