PK O/U at NCAA’s
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7th would be an impressive finish at the weight next year. I’m game though - I’ll take better than 7th on the record. Banking on this summer helping out and. Scrambling from neutral improving as the year goes on.
Can we at least see him wrestle 1st or do we have to give an answer now😁
He’s been wrestling at a national level for 5 years. Time to make a call.
Marinelli was ranked #1 multiple seasons and his best finish was 5th, so I will reserve my expectations until I’ve seen PK perform when it matters most.
What I hear you saying is under ranked people thrive in this weight class?!?!
I'm taking the under and predict PK to finish 4th. That said, I think he has a chance to beat everyone not named O'Toole.
Barring an injury or something totally fricking bizarre like O'Toole pinning himself and being sent to the cons I can't see a R12 type of result. I sure hope you're wrong.
I'm big on PK. I'll take the under for sure. I think he could be anywhere from 2-5 depending on how the bracket works out. Using Marinelli's NCAA results as a barometer is nonsensical. Based on that he is a lock for the B1G title, right?
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Well there are 3 returning national champions at 65. That alone makes a top 3 finish difficult at best. Then add in Hamiti, Kharchla, Amine, Monday...yeah it's gonna be a pull to finish on the podium.Barring an injury or something totally fricking bizarre like O'Toole pinning himself and being sent to the cons I can't see a R12 type of result. I sure hope you're wrong.
Let's just hypothesize that PK earns a 6 or 7 seed at NCAAs. That's a QF match up with Griff or Carr and a trip to the backside and we all know what impact upsets can have on the backside.
I said 6th...but based on how the weight should stack up a R12 finish wouldn't surprise me at all.
The craziest part, to me, about 165 this year is there is only one senior (Monday) and four sophomores (O’Toole, Kharchla, Hamiti, Amine). Carr and Griffith being juniors. This weight class is absolute NAILS this coming season and won’t get any easier after that.
However, after watching Kennedy tear up Minnesota state tournaments year in and year out since like 7th grade, along with what he’s done since getting to Iowa, I have no doubt he can compete with those guys.
However, after watching Kennedy tear up Minnesota state tournaments year in and year out since like 7th grade, along with what he’s done since getting to Iowa, I have no doubt he can compete with those guys.
Ayers has said he's going 165. Thinks the cut to 157 took a little too much out of him. But also sounds like they're leaving 157 open as well and he'll cert there.
I bet he ends up at 157.
Asking about PK not Carr’s placing.
First number that came to my head was 69.
However I don't think you can place that high.
So maybe 6.9?
I guess that means either 6th or 7th depending on how you want to round.
Most scientific answer so far and it's hard to ignore science.
However I don't think you can place that high.
So maybe 6.9?
I guess that means either 6th or 7th depending on how you want to round.
Most scientific answer so far and it's hard to ignore science.
This weight could go down as one of the toughest weights ever. 3 NCAA champs, 1 finalists and guys like amine, PK, hamiti, facundo, hall, kharchla. That’s 10 AA level guys without mentioning any break out guys coming on which there always are. Whittlake… as well.
PK will have an absolute gauntlet to run. Peyton hall (I think) exposed his struggling with folkstyle neutral scrambling. Now he did beat hall this summer but hall couldn’t scramble in freestyle like he can in folk. Really wish PK was a 57 pounder and brands was 65.
ok - with that said - LFG PK!!
PK will have an absolute gauntlet to run. Peyton hall (I think) exposed his struggling with folkstyle neutral scrambling. Now he did beat hall this summer but hall couldn’t scramble in freestyle like he can in folk. Really wish PK was a 57 pounder and brands was 65.
ok - with that said - LFG PK!!
Between injuries and basically being even with the best that didn't go his way, it was a perfect storm against The Bull.
Marinelli rank #1 at 165 lbs all 2021-2022 season. Kennedy seems unable to best Marinelli in the room during the course of that season.
Marinelli finishes 5th at 2022 NCAA Tournament. An absolutely loaded field returns at 165 lbs. With Kennedy on the NCAA 2023 podium?
Seems a lot like pretzel logic. Maybe you're counting your chickens before....
Marinelli finishes 5th at 2022 NCAA Tournament. An absolutely loaded field returns at 165 lbs. With Kennedy on the NCAA 2023 podium?
Seems a lot like pretzel logic. Maybe you're counting your chickens before....
Nothing has been said and no excuses given (excuses are for wusses); but, The Bull didn't look 100% all season long. His pin and TF numbers will bear that out.
It’s going to be real exciting watching PK upset all those studs round after round en route to his first NCAA title.
Hell yes it would! But considering 2 great Hawkeyes in Marinelli and Kem (heck throw ADS in there too) didn't get it done its ok to temper expectations for PK.
Do I want him to be our second 4x champ? Well heck yes but I'm not going to criticize anyone who thinks he might not reach the podium. He hasn't earned that kind of cache yet.
I'd settle for getting the 1st 4 Time Champ first, and worry about PK winning any later.
Greetings my friend, I'm not arguing with your logic; I'm just saying that I think he can beat all but O'Toole and perhaps Griffith and the Hamiiti. And yes, anything is possible, but I don't see a R12 unless PK's injured or O'Toole somehow gets beaten - highly unlikely - and sent to the cons side. And yes, 65 is stacked but I'm confident PK has the goods. I can't imagine a R12.
Would absolutely love to see that!! But O'Toole is from a different planet. If he can beat O'Toole that would be something else!!
This is how I see the Kennedy's close matches going:
Im confident there’s a future Olympic medalist and senior world champ at 65 this year. The weight rivals if not surpasses 49 when Metcalf won it. To AA at this weight this year would be to finish top 3 at any other. Should extend AA to rd 12 just for this weight, it’s that stacked.
Peyton Hall is a vetern and really fricken good. Hall would be a title contender at most other weights. PK beating him gives me hope he makes it past the rd12, but there will be Peyton halls every round but the first and second come March tourney time at this weight class. And, Iowa has not shown up at the Big Dance in some time.
Kennedy actually reminds me a bit of Metcalf. Which is reassuring considering he’ll have to go through what Metcalf went through to win, a gauntlet of top tier talent. PK is a mauler with a motor. His stocky frame concerns me, especially when it comes to finishing on guys like a Hamiti, O Toole, or Griffith. it won’t be a lack of trying on PKs part. I see it coming down to split second scrambles that Kennedy isn’t as Savy yet to rein in the score for himself
I don’t see him getting it done this year with all this working against him.
but, he’s had 2 years of sitting on the bench and learning from some of the best coaches in the game.
He can win it with a perfect run. All boxes checked. All systems go. But, that never happens.
I’ll predict 4th.
Peyton Hall is a vetern and really fricken good. Hall would be a title contender at most other weights. PK beating him gives me hope he makes it past the rd12, but there will be Peyton halls every round but the first and second come March tourney time at this weight class. And, Iowa has not shown up at the Big Dance in some time.
Kennedy actually reminds me a bit of Metcalf. Which is reassuring considering he’ll have to go through what Metcalf went through to win, a gauntlet of top tier talent. PK is a mauler with a motor. His stocky frame concerns me, especially when it comes to finishing on guys like a Hamiti, O Toole, or Griffith. it won’t be a lack of trying on PKs part. I see it coming down to split second scrambles that Kennedy isn’t as Savy yet to rein in the score for himself
I don’t see him getting it done this year with all this working against him.
but, he’s had 2 years of sitting on the bench and learning from some of the best coaches in the game.
He can win it with a perfect run. All boxes checked. All systems go. But, that never happens.
I’ll predict 4th.
I won't even try to predict at this point. He hasn't even started yet. He may thrive as a starter....rehash this mid Jan.
With as stacked as 65 is, I'm surprised - or will be surprised - if at least one of these top 5 hammers doesn't try to drop down and go at 57, which doesn't seem as strong as past years or other weight classes. Nobody stands out as "the" guy at 57.
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