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Police officer pours liquor then arrests guy for DUI

He overdosed on fentynyl. He even spit it out in the cop car when he was screaming he couldn't breathe when nobody was touching him.
what do you think he "spit out"? and when was he in a cop car?
 
Sure, that's why we have a system of appeals. Also Chavin had a union lawyer and various experts. He had a legal and fair trial.

If you think there's an appetite to overturn on appeal, then you're living in a fairy tale.

Are you even aware of the preparations that were put into place if the verdict didn't go as hoped?
 
The most amazing part of this horrible story is the trial is still going on. City of Tallahassee is about to get sued bigly as this video goes viral. You would think some sane minds would think some would for the good of everyone involved have pulled this case. Nope.
One bad thing about this is that Florida has a limit on how many offenses can be expunged, even if the charges are dropped, or the defendant is acquitted. A lot of cops have the attitude that it's no big deal to arrest someone and let the courts figure it out. It's not that simple because the State has resources most individuals can't match without severe financial consequences.
 
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If you think there's an appetite to overturn on appeal, then you're living in a fairy tale.

Are you even aware of the preparations that were put into place if the verdict didn't go as hoped?
Probably better than the preparations Chavin made when arresting Floyd. Having his knee on his neck for 9 minutes. Then not starting CPR immediately after finding no pulse.
 
One bad thing about this is that Florida has a limit on how many offenses can be expunged, even if the charges are dropped, or the defendant is acquitted. A lot of cops have the attitude that it's no big deal to arrest someone and let the courts figure it out. It's not that simple because the State has resources most individuals can't match without severe financial consequences.
Two justice systems. And that’s how people’s lives can spiral. Sending them down a cycle of depression.
 
My stance is society is better off with him dead. And since he killed himself the police response is mostly irrelevant
Chauvin isn't in prison because of your explanation.

He wouldn't be if there wasn't cell phone video.
Guaranfvckingteed.
 
All it takes is 1 cop to do the right thing.


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And people wonder why cops have lost respect?

What does this even mean? There has always been corruption in policing. There always will be corruption in policing. No matter what. Yet, does it make any sense for someone to allow their view of policing as a whole to be dictated by specific examples of corruption? It’s absurd.
 
What does this even mean? There has always been corruption in policing. There always will be corruption in policing. No matter what. Yet, does it make any sense for someone to allow their view of policing as a whole to be dictated by specific examples of corruption? It’s absurd.
To me the issue is as you e pointed above loss of public trust. When the LEOs are caught. And appear to get special treatment in the justice system it leads to dumb attitudes such as Mitch. Similar to when Catholic Priests were shuffled around. The following example in video. Shows the issue. How is this guy not charged with a crime after soliciting a free car. Then keeps getting jobs.
 
Chauvin isn't in prison because of your explanation.

He wouldn't be if there wasn't cell phone video.
Guaranfvckingteed.
And OJ isn't because he was clearly innocent. That's how it works, right?
 
No you’re a moron. And chauvin was tried and held to account by a jury of his peers. You’re a dumbass and a loser.
The jury convicted Chauvin to avoid a riot.
George Floyd was saying he couldn’t breathe before anyone touched him. He had enough drugs in his system to kill three men.
There is enough evidence to suggest he would have died with or without Chauvin’s knee. And there is no evidence Chauvin’s actions were based on Floyd’s race. Still, the good people of Minneapolis decided to send one man to prison to avoid additional loss of life and billions of dollars in property damage.

As to this case, I would still like to see the unedited footage. What we get in the video is chopped up and the narration is heavily one sided.
 
And what caused that "summer of love"?

The only reason that bad behavior was not highlighted earlier was because there were no cell phones and body cams.
Rogue cops were always in existence.
So we can assume if you need help, you don’t want the police anywhere near you?
 
The jury convicted Chauvin to avoid a riot.
George Floyd was saying he couldn’t breathe before anyone touched him. He had enough drugs in his system to kill three men.
There is enough evidence to suggest he would have died with or without Chauvin’s knee. And there is no evidence Chauvin’s actions were based on Floyd’s race. Still, the good people of Minneapolis decided to send one man to prison to avoid additional loss of life and billions of dollars in property damage.

As to this case, I would still like to see the unedited footage. What we get in the video is chopped up and the narration is heavily one sided.
man...talk about BAD LUCK for chauvin

i mean...you kneel on ONE GUY'S neck for 9 minutes, and he just so happens to OD on fentanyl during that same 9 minutes

that's some coincidence...what are the odds?
 
What does this even mean? There has always been corruption in policing. There always will be corruption in policing. No matter what. Yet, does it make any sense for someone to allow their view of policing as a whole to be dictated by specific examples of corruption? It’s absurd.
You are sort of implying those that get caught are the only ones doing it. How many other times have they done corrupt stuff and not been caught? How many others haven't been caught yet? Google Zachary Wester - 120 cases dropped because he allegedly planted drugs. That's a lot of lives affected. He got 12 years. It should have been life.
 
What does this even mean? There has always been corruption in policing. There always will be corruption in policing. No matter what. Yet, does it make any sense for someone to allow their view of policing as a whole to be dictated by specific examples of corruption? It’s absurd.

I think the most worrying thing is that the corrupt cops openly commit their corruption in front of other cops and those other cops say nothing.

In this particular incidence the fact that they start asking each-other if their body cams are off is pretty telling. WTF do you have to say or do that you need everyone's body cams to be off?
 
You are sort of implying those that get caught are the only ones doing it. How many other times have they done corrupt stuff and not been caught? How many others haven't been caught yet? Google Zachary Wester - 120 cases dropped because he allegedly planted drugs. That's a lot of lives affected. He got 12 years. It should have been life.
Exactly she did this knowing camera was running. Evidently it was a reflexive actions on her part.
 
Should she be fired, if she is open to relocation, the city of Newton, IA would love to give her a signing bonus and a promotion to join the police force. Seems like she would fit right in.
 
Can you give us a reasonable example of why should would open a previously open bottle, pour it out, throw the bottle back in the car, and charge the guy for it?

I've seen nothing thus far that indicates he was charged for having an open container. And if in fact that was a charge, could it be possible that there was another container that was open in the car? This is why we have trials in America and not on internet message boards where the mob rules.

Oliver later said during a pre-trial hearing that she opened the bottle herself and poured the alcohol out, citing what she believed to be police department policy that prevented officers from impounding liquids as evidence.
 
I've seen nothing thus far that indicates he was charged for having an open container. And if in fact that was a charge, could it be possible that there was another container that was open in the car? This is why we have trials in America and not on internet message boards where the mob rules.

Oliver later said during a pre-trial hearing that she opened the bottle herself and poured the alcohol out, citing what she believed to be police department policy that prevented officers from impounding liquids as evidence.
Did she give an explanation why, under the circumstances, she thought their body cams should be turned off?
 
You are sort of implying those that get caught are the only ones doing it. How many other times have they done corrupt stuff and not been caught? How many others haven't been caught yet? Google Zachary Wester - 120 cases dropped because he allegedly planted drugs. That's a lot of lives affected. He got 12 years. It should have been life.

I’m not implying that whatsoever. Only an idiot would think that. But, I would argue that in sheer numbers, the amount of LEOs that serve honorably, every single day, vastly outnumbers those that do not. A simple study into police complaints, along with internal and public reviews makes that obvious. It’s all public information.
 
I've seen nothing thus far that indicates he was charged for having an open container. And if in fact that was a charge, could it be possible that there was another container that was open in the car? This is why we have trials in America and not on internet message boards where the mob rules.

Oliver later said during a pre-trial hearing that she opened the bottle herself and poured the alcohol out, citing what she believed to be police department policy that prevented officers from impounding liquids as evidence.

How is it evidence if she's not trying to fit an open container law in there?

Also would police department policy basically allow her to destroy someone's personal property because she intended to take it as evidence.

And thirdly why would she toss it back in the car and not place it in an evidence collection bag?

I mean there is a clear prima facie case for planting evidence and destruction of private property.
 
I wish there was a better angle of that bottle of booze, watched it a few times now and it looks like some is missing out of the bottle which means it was an open container. Sorry if I don't blindly believe the guy narrating. If it wasn't she's a complete idiot.
 
I wish there was a better angle of that bottle of booze, watched it a few times now and it looks like some is missing out of the bottle which means it was an open container. Sorry if I don't blindly believe the guy narrating. If it wasn't she's a complete idiot.
Prosecutors and Judge said they both believed they heard a pop. From the breaking of the seal.
 
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How is it evidence if she's not trying to fit an open container law in there?

Also would police department policy basically allow her to destroy someone's personal property because she intended to take it as evidence.

And thirdly why would she toss it back in the car and not place it in an evidence collection bag?

I mean there is a clear prima facie case for planting evidence and destruction of private property.

Many questions. I don't have the answers and neither do you.

But if it's asserted that she intentionally attempted to make it look like the guy had that as an open container, why would she open it and pour it out on camera?
 
Prosecutors and Judge said they both believed they heard a pop. From the breaking of the seal.
I don't know how you can be sure from that video, but if the prosecutors are saying that I'm assuming they've already dropped the open container charge. Which they should if that's what they think.
 
Many questions. I don't have the answers and neither do you.

But if it's asserted that she intentionally attempted to make it look like the guy had that as an open container, why would she open it and pour it out on camera?
In Iowa if your found with an open container it's poured out on the spot. I don't know what the law in Florida is. An unsealed liquor bottle with in reach of the driver is considered an open container.
 
I don't know how you can be sure from that video, but if the prosecutors are saying that I'm assuming they've already dropped the open container charge. Which they should if that's what they think.
Judge said leave it for jury to decide. My thoughts are she didn’t have nefarious intentions. Just she did something dumb from inexperience. That she thinks looks bad. Now you try to work backwards to make it all look legal and by the books. And not potentially lose a conviction or receive a suspension. I’m of the belief if is BAC is greater than .08 or whatever in that given state convict him. But I’m not on the jury. Jury’s can be fickle and seeing something like that might poison them to all the evidence.
 
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I don't know how you can be sure from that video, but if the prosecutors are saying that I'm assuming they've already dropped the open container charge. Which they should if that's what they think.

That's assuming that an open container charge was filed in the first place.
 
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In Iowa if your found with an open container it's poured out on the spot. I don't know what the law in Florida is. An unsealed liquor bottle with in reach of the driver is considered an open container.

I get that but what I'm saying is why would she intentionally open an alleged sealed container, on camera, with bad intentions? The whole premise is absurd. That's why there may be a reasonable explanation.
 
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I get that but what I'm saying is why would she intentionally open an alleged sealed container, on camera, with bad intentions? The whole premise is absurd. That's why there may be a reasonable explanation.
My guess is she was dumped it out assuming people wouldn't know if it was open or not, then put open container down on the police report and no one would know different. That's why I mentioned it would be nice to know for sure if it was sealed or not.
 
My guess is she was dumped it out assuming people wouldn't know if it was open or not, then put open container down on the police report and no one would know different. That's why I mentioned it would be nice to know for sure if it was sealed or not.
Aka she fudged up.
 
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