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We see the violence during Trump's administration.
It seems like we're moving toward a totally divided nation... which might lead to a conventional Civil War. The civil war of the 19th century was not like most civil wars. The USA will be like Northern Ireland. Riots and factions of resistance and violence mixed in with the consumerism and commercials.
If Biden wins and the MAGAs are upset, does anyone really know about the pissed off people in some small town or rural area?
As long as we don't get a usa version of u2.We see the violence during Trump's administration.
It seems like we're moving toward a totally divided nation... which might lead to a conventional Civil War. The civil war of the 19th century was not like most civil wars. The USA will be like Northern Ireland. Riots and factions of resistance and violence mixed in with the consumerism and commercials.
Fundamentally inaccurate on multiple counts. The fact that you guys believe this means there is little hope for reconciliation in the future.I saw this after the Kenosha riots, I thought it was a plausible explanation of the Trump/MAGA/right wing perspective. I had previously thought how odd/silly the "law & order" and "this is what will happen in Biden's America" stuff was. This kind of explains it.
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"Trump regards himself as a wartime president of Red America against Blue America. That’s how he can describe riot and disorder as happening in “Biden’s America,” even when it happens under his presidency. In his mind, the majority of the country is already “Biden’s America,” even before Biden enters office—and the remainder of it will continue to be “Trump’s America,” even should Trump leave office. "
"Since we are two countries, we can have two sets of laws and rules: one for friends, another for enemies. That’s why so many prominent Trump supporters can look at the shooting in Kenosha and perceive the gunman, who went to a city where he did not live with an AR-15-style rifle in hand, as acting in self-defense. The gunman had legitimate rights that must be respected. The dead men did not, and neither did all the many victims this year of police shootings. If those victims had criminal records, then they were criminals—unlike, say, Michael Flynn, who remains a rights-bearing American despite his criminal record. Two countries, two classes of citizen, two systems of law. "
I hope you’re wrong but I’m very concerned; regardless of who wins. Typically, it’s been the far left taking it to the streets but now we’re seeing some far right doing the same. I’m afraid this country is a powder keg right now just waiting to explode. People are being further radicalized in their respective views from social media and the media in general. Instead of getting rational feedback, they’ve surrounded themselves with sources and people that do nothing but pump up their anger.We see the violence during Trump's administration.
It seems like we're moving toward a totally divided nation... which might lead to a conventional Civil War. The civil war of the 19th century was not like most civil wars. The USA will be like Northern Ireland. Riots and factions of resistance and violence mixed in with the consumerism and commercials.
I don't think this is even debatable. There will be more people out causing problems if Trump wins. By far.
If past is prologue then the Left has displayed their propensity for violence on a national scale the last 4 years way more than the Right did for 8 under Obama.
I agree that there will be far more people causing problems if Trump wins but my reasoning for picking the Biden option is that the Trump supporters are much more likely to escalate the attacks to widespread violence. Many have been posting civil war memes for years now and if their guy loses then they will be looking for an excuse. Right wing terrorism has already been on the rise and this will likely put them over the top.
How do you figure that?I don't think this is even debatable. There will be more people out causing problems if Trump wins. By far.
You dropped too much acid back in the day old man.How do you figure that?
I think the opposite is clearly true.
Sure we have had a very few bad actors in some recent protests. But the protests have been in good causes.
The right carries guns and throws their weight around with little provocation. They don't do it to protest murders by police, or to demand action on climate change, or in support of good schools, or to assure fair elections, or to prompt gun control. They do it to protest masks, or to bitch about kneeling sports players, or to defend Confederate symbols, or to restrict women's rights.
Huge difference.
Plus, we have news media and politicos all the way up to the President encouraging violence by the right - and nothing like that on the left.
Personally, I hope there will be massive pushback against a Trump win. Lot's of justification for it. But I don't expect it to be particularly violent - unless/until the right starts shooting. Which I wouldn't rule out.
How do you figure that?
I think the opposite is clearly true.
Sure we have had a very few bad actors in some recent protests. But the protests have been in good causes.
The right carries guns and throws their weight around with little provocation. They don't do it to protest murders by police, or to demand action on climate change, or in support of good schools, or to assure fair elections, or to prompt gun control. They do it to protest masks, or to bitch about kneeling sports players, or to defend Confederate symbols, or to restrict women's rights.
Huge difference.
Plus, we have news media and politicos all the way up to the President encouraging violence by the right - and nothing like that on the left.
Personally, I hope there will be massive pushback against a Trump win. Lot's of justification for it. But I don't expect it to be particularly violent - unless/until the right starts shooting. Which I wouldn't rule out.
can you develop what you mean by the sentence i bolded?I voted Civil War either way but I don't actually hope or think there will be an actual "war"
We need a divorce though. We have irreconcilable differences that can't be overcome.
If Trump loses it will help the Republican Party in the long run. Re-evaluate their strategies.
If Biden loses it will hurt the Democratic Party as it will lead them to some very dark places.
But Undoubtedly the country will be better off with Trump for 4 more years
Yes no doubt, and they are supporting a ticket lead by a man with alzheimers for President and a woman who thinks she's running for President.There's one side calling for voting illegally, armed insurrection, imposing martial law, and is working to undermine not just confidence in our electoral procees but actively working to destroy the process.
Let's hope that happens no matter who wins.if dems lose might force the media to actually realize that it’s not worth taking on the pathetic role of propaganda-for-hire and they will innovate/re-emerge as a force for good.
I'm OK with President Pelosi.Just wait until January roles around and we still don't know who the President elect is. 🎆