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Poll: should illegal aliens be allowed to vote?

should illegals be voting?

  • Yes

    Votes: 7 8.0%
  • No

    Votes: 81 92.0%

  • Total voters
    88
  • Poll closed .
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Well if life exists on Mars, it is microbial with a very low IQ. But if you're saying microbials still have a higher IQ than breeder scum south of the border, I'm gonna have to concede your point.
You don't like gays or breeders? Interesting take.
 
When the Mexicans come in and take the country by force, I reckon they can do whatever they want.

But more to the point, your photo and assertion should be a wake-up call to everyone.

He's too stupid to understand your inference. You should send him a PM explaining it.
 

theIowaHawk said:

LOL, so are you going to join those who claim that immigrants don't pay taxes? Especially local ones?


The OP said illegal,....correct?

Do you think that immigrants, even illegal ones, don't pay taxes? Do you think they don't pay local taxes as well?
 
At least you answered the question. Are a lot of convicted murderers in a position to vote, i.e. effected by local elections? Also, I'm in favor of allowing felons the right to vote, even those in prison. But I would restrict their "local voting", because they don't really have a locality in prison.

I'm on board with letting felons exercise Constitutional rights though, I know, makes me crazy.
 
Do you think that immigrants, even illegal ones, don't pay taxes? Do you think they don't pay local taxes as well?
When they buy something sure. Do they report their earnings all of the time? No. Even when they do, depending on how much they get paid, they either get a large portion of their income taxes back or all of them back. They can use fake SS's for the purpose of getting in a payroll, or they get paid under the table and there is no reporting at all. It all depends on the person themselves.
 
When they buy something sure. Do they report their earnings all of the time? No. Even when they do, depending on how much they get paid, they either get a large portion of their income taxes back or all of them back. They can use fake SS's for the purpose of getting in a payroll, or they get paid under the table and there is no reporting at all. It all depends on the person themselves.

Ok, so now they might buy something, and they might pay taxes, but not like every time guys, its not the same!

So, they use fake SS's...........for the purposes of payroll................................................................................................which deducts taxes, and they don't get it back.

So to sum up: They do pay taxes, or maybe not, but sometimes, and you just aren't sure where you are going with this, but your previous post:
If they aren't helping to pay the salaries of our elected officials, they have no business choosing who they are. It's as simple as that.
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is bunk, because they may, in fact, be "helping to pay the salaries of our elected officials."...................you know, a requirement that has never once been an actual requirement of voting in our great nation.

I'll bet you don't even understand why I specifically brought up local elections, especially in regards to taxes, do you?
 
Since I'm signing off for the night, want to clarify something: I don't think I'm objectively "right" in my opinion here, and it should be a hotly debated topic. I just take issue with the simpletons, like Prime/Aegon, who can't seem to wrap their head around a rational thought and articulately express it. Example: Prime claims that one must contribute to the pay of the elected officials, but when pointed out that many illegal immigrants would satisfy that, I'm sure he will find some other excuse. There should be a good, thoughtful, intelligent debate on this topic. I understand that most disagree with me, not a surprising event, but Prime thinks that, because he agrees with people in principle, that they actually support his idiocy...which I would bet most don't.

Carry on.
 
At least you answered the question. Are a lot of convicted murderers in a position to vote, i.e. effected by local elections? Also, I'm in favor of allowing felons the right to vote, even those in prison. But I would restrict their "local voting", because they don't really have a locality in prison.

I'm on board with letting felons exercise Constitutional rights though, I know, makes me crazy.
Then you'd be for letting out felons who simply had drug possession charges out of jail, including those in possession of illegal firearms? Would you also be for
Ok, so now they might buy something, and they might pay taxes, but not like every time guys, its not the same!

So, they use fake SS's...........for the purposes of payroll................................................................................................which deducts taxes, and they don't get it back.

So to sum up: They do pay taxes, or maybe not, but sometimes, and you just aren't sure where you are going with this, but your previous post:


is bunk, because they may, in fact, be "helping to pay the salaries of our elected officials."...................you know, a requirement that has never once been an actual requirement of voting in our great nation.

I'll bet you don't even understand why I specifically brought up local elections, especially in regards to taxes, do you?
Here you go again, repeating what someone says as if they don't know what they already just said.
You say these things as if you are the first person to ever say these things. How often do you actually read what people type up? Or do you just sit there with an already prepared answer for them despite what they actually may end up saying?
 
Since I'm signing off for the night, want to clarify something: I don't think I'm objectively "right" in my opinion here, and it should be a hotly debated topic. I just take issue with the simpletons, like Prime/Aegon, who can't seem to wrap their head around a rational thought and articulately express it. Example: Prime claims that one must contribute to the pay of the elected officials, but when pointed out that many illegal immigrants would satisfy that, I'm sure he will find some other excuse. There should be a good, thoughtful, intelligent debate on this topic. I understand that most disagree with me, not a surprising event, but Prime thinks that, because he agrees with people in principle, that they actually support his idiocy...which I would bet most don't.

Carry on.
Do you rattle this easily in real life? I mean if you can be this shaken up and stirred in message board, how do you deal with real stress?
The best way to conquer your own anxiety is to face what it is that makes you anxious. It would make you a better and understanding person.
 
Feel free to counter anything I posted, you haven't yet.
What have you said that isn't what you believe should happen? It's no different than what I've said. You claim that parents of legally born children should be allowed to vote, despite not themselves being legal. I can MAYBE cater to that, but the question is how do you keep track of that. The IRS itself doesn't even care if someone reports income taxes without having a valid SS. So how can we expect the voting booth counts to be accurate, when you open them up to be voted upon by just about anybody that comes along.
Is there any reason for anyone in America to even be called a citizen anymore?

Federal elections should be held to Natural born, or legally made US citizens only in my opinion. It's these citizens that are mostly responsible for the taxes paid in this country. They are also the ones that make up the majority, around 99% of the military as well. Which is another reason why I believe that, as the Federal government is mostly here to back the military and national security.
You can join the military as an illegal, but you have to provide full and accurate documentation of your background, but they are also practically guaranteed to earn citizenship after doing so, which is why most do it. Serve the country, earn citizenship, I can respect that.
Other countries can vote in other countries, but most of them is because they are part of the same international entities such as the EU or such. Most countries thought do in fact prefer to keep it with those that actually have citizenship in said country.

Just simply opening the borders up for anything and everything, without the guarantee, that full use of resources, will also result in the full payment for those use of resources is not only silly though, but it's asking for problems up and down the board. Not to mention that in many situations, illegals get f'd in the arse.
 
That Billy Madison line comes to mind. Prime, do you really not understand voter registration?
 
That Billy Madison line comes to mind. Prime, do you really not understand voter registration?
Here we go changing the subject again. Once again Iowahawk is having a thought, and he's under the belief that he's the only one who's ever had it. Tell us what it is Iowa. Dazzle us. Let me guess, you're going to have 3 criterias listed.
 
IowaHawk, you said you were signing off. I know you have this need to control people, but you're never going to get that with me. Perhaps you should find another goal to meet?
 
Here we go changing the subject again. Once again Iowahawk is having a thought, and he's under the belief that he's the only one who's ever had it. Tell us what it is Iowa. Dazzle us. Let me guess, you're going to have 3 criterias listed.

You have lost yourself, so much so you had to post twice to "get me". I thought my post was straightforward, but I guess I should assume nothing when it comes to you.

Obviously voter registration negates your previous, wild, claim that just "anybody" could come in and vote. You keep making, ignorantly, a made-up requirement of paying taxes (salaries of the elected) in order to vote. What an illogical requirement, even for those who oppose illegal immigrants voting.
 
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