Propublica - A Texas Woman Died After the Hospital Said It Would be a “Crime” to Intervene in Her Miscarriage

[BelemNole]

Not that the party of 'pro-life' gives a shit.

A Texas Woman Died After Waiting 40 Hours for Miscarriage Care

Josseli Barnica is one of at least two pregnant Texas women who died after doctors delayed emergency care. She’d told her husband that the medical team said it couldn’t act until the fetal heartbeat stopped.

www.propublica.org

 

[Joes Place]

EXACTLY what happened in Catholic Ireland - fetal heartbeat laws legally prevented any medical intervention.

Catholic Ireland decided that was too far, and voted to ELIMINATE abortion bans after this in 2018.

 

[BrianNole777]

EXACTLY what happened in Catholic Ireland - fetal heartbeat laws legally prevented any medical intervention.

Catholic Ireland decided that was too far, and voted to ELIMINATE abortion bans after this in 2018.

Do you and @BelemNole believe there should be ANY limits on abortion?

Are late term abortions fine with you even if they happen for any reason?

 

[Joes Place]

Do you and @BelemNole believe there should be ANY limits on abortion?

Yep

Past 24-26 weeks months, it should only be in extreme cases when you have a viable fetus. Very few legit reasons for one after that point.

My bad.

 

[joelbc1]

I heard this earlier today. How can any responsible doctor or medical facility allow this to occur? Law or not….. Don’t physicians take an oathe to practice medicine? Personal integrity should override a bad law…. And a hospital should insist good medicine be practiced in their facility by their doctors!

 

[McLovin32]

She probably just didn't pray enough. This is all part of God's plan, couldn't have been prevented.

 

[BrianNole777]

Yep

Past 24-26 months, it should only be in extreme cases when you have a viable fetus. Very few legit reasons for one after that point.

24-26 "months???"

You hate toddlers or something?

 

[Formerly Rockymtnole]

Not that the party of 'pro-life' gives a shit.

A Texas Woman Died After Waiting 40 Hours for Miscarriage Care

Josseli Barnica is one of at least two pregnant Texas women who died after doctors delayed emergency care. She’d told her husband that the medical team said it couldn’t act until the fetal heartbeat stopped.

www.propublica.org

My wife had a similar situation years ago. Fortunately no lasting harm. She recently had a go round with her evangelical nut MAGA sister, who was posting stuff about how voting for Harris was supporting baby killers.

These people are the worst.

 

[Joes Place]

I heard this earlier today. How can any responsible doctor or medical facility allow this to occur? Law or not

They cannot allow their medical staff to put their own freedoms in jeopardy.
This is WHY the laws passed are so vague - they make it so the legal staff of a hospital have to ensure, 100%, they cannot let any physicians be prosecuted.

This is what you vote FOR when you vote GOP these days. Period.

 

[BrianNole777]

She recently had a go round with her evangelical nut MAGA sister, who was posting stuff about how voting for Harris was supporting baby killers.

These people are the worst.

She's right, IMO. Donald Trump is horrendous and has probably paid for a few abortions himself but Harris is extreme on abortion. Her voting record is public. She has no qualms about late term abortions.

This is the worst part of the Democratic party platform.

Democrats Are the Real Abortion Radicals | Opinion

Why is so much of the media covering for the extreme abortion positions of Harris and most of the Democratic Party?

www.newsweek.com

 

[joelbc1]

She probably just didn't pray enough. This is all part of God's plan, couldn't have been prevented.

Sadly, there are a lot of good ol’ Bible-beatin’ Texans who will tell you this…

 

[BrianNole777]

Sadly, there are a lot of good ol’ Bible-beatin’ Texans who will tell you this…

Hopefully she's in bliss right now. She wouldn't want to come back here.

 

[McLovin32]

She wouldn't want to come back here.

That's an odd thing to say about someone that wanted help but wasn't given help and then died.

 

[BrianNole777]

That's an odd thing to say about someone that wanted help but wasn't given help and then died.

I was responding to you and Joe.

If you were in bliss, would you want to come back to this world of endless strife and struggle?

I wouldn't.

 

[joelbc1]

Hopefully she's in bliss right now. She wouldn't want to come back here.

Brian… what happened to that woman is nothing short of murder. Anyone who thinks differently is a sick motherfu…. Your God and your Jesus should be offended by this incident.

 

[Formerly Rockymtnole]

She's right, IMO. Donald Trump is horrendous and has probably paid for a few abortions himself but Harris is extreme on abortion. Her voting record is public. She has no qualms about late term abortions.

This is the worst part of the Democratic party platform.

Democrats Are the Real Abortion Radicals | Opinion

Why is so much of the media covering for the extreme abortion positions of Harris and most of the Democratic Party?

www.newsweek.com

I generally like you, but GFY

 

[BrianNole777]

I generally like you, but GFY

It's true. Read her voting record in the link.

Harris is an abortion radical:

"Harris also voted in February of 2020 against S. 3275 (the Pain-Capable Unborn Child Protection Act) which would have banned late-term abortions after five months of pregnancy—the point at which unborn children can feel pain. The vote tally was again 53 yeas (including only two Democrats) and 44 nays.

In addition, Harris' party nearly unanimously backed the radical Women's Health Protection Act, a bill that reads like a manifesto for unlimited and unrestricted abortion rights through all nine months of the pregnancy.

The bill, which both House and Senate Democrats have tried to pass, permits late-term abortion procedures on nearly fully formed children. "This inhumane bill has become the Democrat Party's standard," Rizzuto writes. "It garnered a whopping 99% support from House Democrats in both 2021 and 2022, passing the House by 218-211 and 219-210 respectively, with only one Democrat voting against it both years."

 

[McLovin32]

I was responding to you and Joe.

If you were in bliss, would you want to come back to this world of endless strife and struggle?

I wouldn't.

You're assuming she's in bliss. Nobody knows.


She wanted to get medical help and was denied it and she died because of that. Now her husband, daughter, and family are mourning a death that could have been prevented.

Stuff like this is why people can't stand you religious nuts. GTFO with this stupid "bliss" shit.

 

[BrianNole777]

Brian… what happened to that woman is nothing short of murder. Anyone who thinks differently is a sick motherfu…. Your God and your Jesus should be offended by this incident.

It's a tragic case for sure.

 

[BrianNole777]

You're assuming she's in bliss. Nobody knows.


She wanted to get medical help and was denied it and she died because of that. Now her husband, daughter, and family are mourning a death that could have been prevented.

Stuff like this is why people can't stand you religious nuts. GTFO with this stupid "bliss" shit.

It's a terrible case, of course.

I was responding to your post which brought up God.

 

[joelbc1]

It's a tragic case for sure.

A needless tragedy. There is no excuse for a death like this. Why do you think God gave man a brain and knowledge? Perhaps it was to help their fellow man ? Of course, man’s knowledge can be used for evil but in this case? Instead of one “murder” you have in fact two murders and the State of Texas is complicit also. (Along with the hospital and the hospital’s medical staff.)

 

[BrianNole777]

A needless tragedy. There is no excuse for a death like this. Why do you think God gave man a brain and knowledge? Perhaps it was to help their fellow man ? Of course, man’s knowledge can be used for evil but in this case? Instead of one “murder” you have in fact two murders and the State of Texas is complicit also. (Along with the hospital and the hospital’s medical staff.)

It really blows that this happened.

 

[SoProudNole]

Hopefully she's in bliss right now. She wouldn't want to come back here.

That’s horseshit. People with that thought process are pathetic.

 

[bagdropper]

That's okay. I'm sure the old grey haired white man up in the clouds approves of everybody at the hospital's actions.

 

[Formerly Rockymtnole]

Ken Paxton is another evil SOB.

 

[noStemsnoSTICKS]

Do you and @BelemNole believe there should be ANY limits on abortion?

Are late term abortions fine with you even if they happen for any reason?

"Late term abortion" is a buzz phrase for right wingers. It's meant to illicit an emotional response. The reality is third term abortions represent less than 1 percent of all abortions. In nearly every "late term" abortion, mothers are expecting to carry it to term. By then names are picked out. Baby rooms are painted blue or pink. Cribs and playpens have already been assembled. Families then get the worst medical news of their life and they're forced to make an impossible decision.

And yes, I'd rather have women along with their families making those decisions. Not a politician.

 

[Mister_Man]

She's right, IMO. Donald Trump is horrendous and has probably paid for a few abortions himself but Harris is extreme on abortion. Her voting record is public. She has no qualms about late term abortions.

This is the worst part of the Democratic party platform.

Democrats Are the Real Abortion Radicals | Opinion

Why is so much of the media covering for the extreme abortion positions of Harris and most of the Democratic Party?

www.newsweek.com

Late-term abortions represent 1% of all abortions. There is an underlying medical reason for the abortion and it's a horrible event for the parents and not something they planned.

 

[BrianNole777]

Late-term abortions represent 1% of all abortions. There is an underlying medical reason for the abortion and it's a horrible event for the parents and not something they planned.

That's true.

It's ghastly.

 

[FAUlty Gator]

That's okay. I'm sure the old grey haired white man up in the clouds approves of everybody at the hospital's actions.

Sully Sullenberger?

 

[Joes Place]

"Late term abortion" is a buzz phrase for right wingers. It's meant to illicit an emotional response. The reality is third term abortions represent less than 1 percent of all abortions. In nearly every "late term" abortion, mothers are expecting to carry it to term. By then names are picked out. Baby rooms are painted blue or pink. Cribs and playpens have already been assembled. Families then get the worst medical news of their life and they're forced to make an impossible decision.

And yes, I'd rather have women along with their families making those decisions. Not a politician.

Yep

And sometimes - in a very rare but non-zero number of cases - they are medically necessary. And very difficult decisions for people.

 

[BelemNole]

My wife had a similar situation years ago. Fortunately no lasting harm. She recently had a go round with her evangelical nut MAGA sister, who was posting stuff about how voting for Harris was supporting baby killers.

These people are the worst.

I was reading yesterday about a 'pro-life influencer' who is trying to keep her ectopic pregnancy. Perhaps her other kids will get a step mom who isn't bat shit crazy.

 

[FAUlty Gator]

I was reading yesterday about a 'pro-life influencer' who is trying to keep her ectopic pregnancy. Perhaps her other kids will get a step mom who isn't bat shit crazy.

I can only assume she’s smoking hot for someone to stick their dick into something that nuts.

 

[BelemNole]

I can only assume she’s smoking hot for someone to stick their dick into something that nuts.

Can't risk a good grift!

 

[RicoSuave102954]

Not that the party of 'pro-life' gives a shit.

A Texas Woman Died After Waiting 40 Hours for Miscarriage Care

Josseli Barnica is one of at least two pregnant Texas women who died after doctors delayed emergency care. She’d told her husband that the medical team said it couldn’t act until the fetal heartbeat stopped.

www.propublica.org

Always more to stories like this, I doubt it happened like it was reported.

 

[desihawk]

it’s sick and disgusting that in this day and age this happened in america. it’s obviously the downstream effect of trump delivering for one of his special interests. now can someone layout how such tragedies will be avoided once the dems win back to back presidential elections?

 

[lucas80]

it’s sick and disgusting that in this day and age this happened in america. it’s obviously the downstream effect of trump delivering for one of his special interests. now can someone layout how such tragedies will be avoided once the dems win back to back presidential elections?

Put it forward to the people. The vast majority of Americans support access to reproductive healthcare for women. There is quibbling over some timing, but the far right extremists won’t accept anything but total control over women. Make that the choice for people to decide on. Options for women, or far right extremists running women’s lives to the point that healthy women are dying because of the religious views of 6 SCOTUS members and the GQP base.

 

[FlickShagwell]

She probably just didn't pray enough. This is all part of God's plan, couldn't have been prevented.

God lets the silliest things happen. What a rascal!

 

[artradley]

It's true. Read her voting record in the link.

Harris is an abortion radical:

"Harris also voted in February of 2020 against S. 3275 (the Pain-Capable Unborn Child Protection Act) which would have banned late-term abortions after five months of pregnancy—the point at which unborn children can feel pain. The vote tally was again 53 yeas (including only two Democrats) and 44 nays.

In addition, Harris' party nearly unanimously backed the radical Women's Health Protection Act, a bill that reads like a manifesto for unlimited and unrestricted abortion rights through all nine months of the pregnancy.

The bill, which both House and Senate Democrats have tried to pass, permits late-term abortion procedures on nearly fully formed children. "This inhumane bill has become the Democrat Party's standard," Rizzuto writes. "It garnered a whopping 99% support from House Democrats in both 2021 and 2022, passing the House by 218-211 and 219-210 respectively, with only one Democrat voting against it both years."

It sounds as if you have defined “radical” as 99% of all Democrats.

 

[Dr. Phil Seuss]

EXACTLY what happened in Catholic Ireland - fetal heartbeat laws legally prevented any medical intervention.

Catholic Ireland decided that was too far, and voted to ELIMINATE abortion bans after this in 2018.

Catholic Ireland? Lol. Just say Ireland, turd.

 

[tarheelbybirth]

Do you and @BelemNole believe there should be ANY limits on abortion?

Are late term abortions fine with you even if they happen for any reason?

Do you think women should die to satisfy your mythical sky-daddy voodoo bullshit?