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Protecting children from chemical and surgical mutilation

Science doesn’t work without multiple experiments confirming the same results. This is the literal definition of the scientific method. Something we all learned about in 7th grade.

You’re comfortable throwing it out the window.
You should be able to separate an activist from a scientist. The WPATH is filled with activists and they are also the ones who have led the charge for the pro trans research. They have scam research because they were providing research that would affirm their ideas rather researching and letting the results speak for themselves.
 
You should be able to separate an activist from a scientist. The WPATH is filled with activists and they are also the ones who have led the charge for the pro trans research. They have scam research because they were providing research that would affirm their ideas rather researching and letting the results speak for themselves.
That really just depends on credentials to me. I’ve disagreed with a lot of shit. Then found out I was wrong.

When it comes to the transgender community. I just kind of leave it to the experts. But hey. What do I know.

Our president did just an EO declaring us all females. Or genderless. Depending on how you read it.
 
We're talking about people who think they are the opposite sex and go as far as having their genitalia mutilated. And we're supposed to believe them when they say they don't regret what they did?

Give me a break.

So we have @Hawk_82 in this thread saying that we can't trust the peer reviewed studies that support the effectiveness of gender affirming care. Now you're saying we can't trust the actual person when they say that the treatment is effective?

Give me a f*cking break.
 
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So we have @Hawk_82 in this thread saying that we can't trust the peer reviewed studies that support the effectiveness of gender affirming care. Now you're saying we can't trust the actual person when they say that the treatment is effective?

Give me a f*cking break.
I think when people are already thst far down the rabbit hole, there's no turning back.
 
I think when people are already thst far down the rabbit hole, there's no turning back.
And you. With most likely a high school education. Am feeling like a proper arbiter of those thoughts and emotions.

Don’t you hate it when other people are trying to tell you how you think?
 
A boy with excess breast tissue is gynecomastia, it is not related to gender. A boy can get surgery for this without a gender dysphoria diagnosis.

On the otherhand, a man can get a breast augmentation covered by insurance because it is an essential procedure whil a woman with dysformed breasts can not get it covered by insurance (one breast is an a and 1 is a D). I am assuming you can see how this is not right.
The sad part is that you’re too stupid to know you’re stupid.
 
I think when people are already thst far down the rabbit hole, there's no turning back.

I agree. That's why it's insane to let transphobes control medical treatment for people in this country.

They've listened to so much anti-trans propaganda that now they are arguing that we shouldn't listen to the medical community or trans patients at all.
 
"Protecting" from who? Their parents?

I thought conservatives cared about Parent's Choice? Children cannot receive medical treatment without parents permission.

So, how do you decide when the parents are important in the process? Are you ok with laws that take custody away from parents who choose against gender affirming care for their kids? How about schools keeping info about a child’s identity away from their parents?

It seems both sides wield the “it’s for the parents to decide” ax when it helps them, but are totally fine with cutting them off at the knees when it goes against their stance.
 
Its kind of a big deal. I have argued with people for the last 6 years telling you that you were wrong about trans and that the research will come out proving you wrong. Now that my theory is playing out, you are done talking about it. LOL.
I forget, are you the guy that has repeatedly lied about knowing hundreds/thousands of trans citizens?
Do you find your obsession with the hatred of trans citizens has interfered with day to day activities and personal relationships in your life? You seem super obsessed.
 
We all make bad choices. Suicide is a bad choice.

Many times, not always, suicide is the culmination of many previous bad choices.

Can you imagine how bad some of these trans people feel about their choice? I don't think it should come as a surprise that the suicide rate is so high.

It's a mental illness and should be treated as such. That will save lives.
I've heard that the trans suicide rate is higher because of random internet hatred, and a society/family that rejects them.
 
So, how do you decide when the parents are important in the process? Are you ok with laws that take custody away from parents who choose against gender affirming care for their kids? How about schools keeping info about a child’s identity away from their parents?

It seems both sides wield the “it’s for the parents to decide” ax when it helps them, but are totally fine with cutting them off at the knees when it goes against their stance.
Are you OK with Trump stopping breast reductions for cisgender boys so they can have their breast removed so the fit in with their peers? Should that be up to the parents?
 
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Are you OK with Trump stopping breast reductions for cisgender boys so they can have their breast removed so the fit in with their peers? Should that be up to the parents?
No. I am 100% in the camp of parents know what’s best for their children. However, I also think there are some shady medical professionals out there doing things they probably shouldn’t be doing as well.

Nuance. All greys.
 
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