Actually I rode the High Trestle Trail from Madrid to Woodward last Wednesday. Had potato soup and a beer at the Whistling Donkey too. Cold and windy...
RAGBRAI controversey: Man, this sure was hard to predict, lol
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I'm not the one making the claim bikers on the highway are a big deal. You're the one derailing the RAGBRAI thread.
You see it 'all the time'...lol....ok, it's a major problem.
I may....just may... know a little bit more than you about this...but...we'll leave it alone. I don't care enough about this to debate.
I was kicked off RAGBRAI for blood doping. Glad to see an alternative
Then run them over........I don't see how you can't find these solutions on your own.
So not yet. If that is the proof you are using.... it may need more support. Fairly circumstantial
they are Jekyll and Hyde. Super nice until the town is “officially closed” then they turn into Terminators. Our group seems to stay in towns until closing time several times during RAGBRAI and it is funny to see the transformation.
seriously I think they do a great job and closing towns cuts down on bikes riding in the dark.
Yes, but it could also be that the bike ride is one of many events that Iowa Festivals will be involved in. The organization was already putting together a convention and other projects. The King thing happened and the Iowa Ride was another event to put under the umbrella.
My point is that the Iowa Festivals org may not have been started for the exclusive reason of putting together a competing ride. It may have been started for conventions and other festivals, the competing ride came about as fallout from the Register fiasco.
You are not serious, are you?
Perhaps you have the ethics of my President...if so, you get a pass here.
Conservatives ride bikes? Man that whole scene seems pretty liberal to me.
Ragbrai proper is about as uptight, corporate, and stale as you can get. Think North Liberty on bikes. The fringes on the other hand...
What does that have to do with fat 40 somethings at their kids sporting events?
GFY, Joel. I asked a simple question for clarification. If you'll notice, two people responded, I "liked" both of their responses, and did not try to debate them or stick up for the guy in the OP. Perhaps you shouldn't be so hasty with your sadly predictable, politically driven responses and take time to read through the thread before you question someone's ethics.
LOL.....it’s patently obvious what the hell is going on here...this TJ fellow is not the most ethically above board person, obviously. Jeeeebus keeeerist....his actions would be cause for immediate dismissal in most places I am familiar with. Plus, I would think he might be subject to legal action against him.
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LOL
The "convention" was designed for one purpose - solicit sponsors for - wait for it: THE IOWA RIDE.
How freaking gullible are some of you people? JFC.
This place is full of people that find the NBA unpredictable so they answer is “very gullible”.
How about if I give you the damn near obligatory....” they voted for Trump, didn’t they? “
Not gullible, just giving another plausible reason. I really don't give a sh!t. I'm not a fan of the stupid bike rides anyways. The takeaway I have from this thread is that public dollars and law enforcement resources go towards this stupid event. Should have to pay it's own way.
Which is different than explicitly obvious. I’m sorry I triggered you by wanting some clarification.
But then, many businesses in Iowa would go out of business. The current Iowa business model includes conversion of public tax money being gifted to private business for their bottom line. Bike rides should be no different.
I don't have the desire or the time to look it up and since the Gannett folks are hot on the trail I thought maybe you'd know - were the other rides TJ has organized like the BaCooN and the BigRove done under the Iowa Festivals entity? Or were they done as part of his RAGBRAI duties and under that entity?
I think BigRove was organized by the Iowa Bicycle Coalition with support from ragbrai? Not sure about Bacoon
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No offense, but that is not a "plausible reason" to anyone who has looked at the actual, objective facts. Again, the "non profit" was organized and registered 1 year ago, and had ZERO activity until it organized a "convention" to solicit sponsors for the new "Iowa Ride."
they are not reinventing the wheel. The documentation has to be well established after a few decades. Might be smart of register to hire a guy/gal that was the point man/woman for a community that has had several overnights.
Sounds like the big corporate touring groups are sticking with Register, that is where the money is at. Many small teams from Iowa using their own support don’t actually pay a dime to register.
From what I understand, they haven't even finalized their route yet,... clocks ticking.
I was talking to a long-time RAGBRAI rider the other day and this is the tipping point to them. He's in a small club but said there are a lot of corporate groups that have 500+ riders. He mentioned that if they all go to the Iowa Ride, RAGBRAI is done. You would think TJ would have locked that up before leaving as he knows that's where the money's at.
Long article in Register last week, they got in touch with a few of these giant corporate teams and they said they would stick with register. Of course they may have selected what to publish. It makes sense, a giant group from Texas doesn’t really know what is going on, the smart play by the company is just stick with the ragbrai brand.
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You thought THIS guy had that much foresight!?
T.J. Juskiewicz told the Register on Tuesday that he made no secret of the nonprofit. He said he told a marketing colleague and the Register's editor about it. Neither supervised him, and he said he could not recall whether he told his boss. He also said he couldn't remember who his boss would have been at the time.
In an interview with KXnO-AM radio Wednesday morning, former RAGBRAI director TJ Juskiewicz did not say whether Iowa's Ride plans to rely on the State Patrol to control traffic.
"I have not had that conversation with the state yet," Juskiewicz told KXnO. "It's blowing up pretty quick. I haven't talked to the state yet to see what type of support I'm going to have from (Iowa Department of Transportation) or State Patrol."
I live by the trail out in the Norwalk/Cumming area. During the summer it can be somewhat dangerous. There are cars going up and down hills, around bends, and then suddenly a pack of 20-30 Lance Armstrongs who are getting ready for Ragbrai or doing whatever it is they're doing. Whether single or in packs, they are out when it is still dark or when it is dawn, not always easy to see. They ride by multiple entraces to the bike trail on their country tour. Then they will stop in intersections and wait for other Lances who are still catching up, and are hesitant to move to let cars through the intersection. It happens all day long, but it is even more dangerous in the early mornings.
It is a mess in the summer and it is dangerous to everyone involved. And now there is a new road that they just built that goes through the area which it starting to look like it will have some traffic. It's a matter of time until one of these bikers ends up splattered all over a road, and guess who the bikers will go to blame?
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The "Lance Armstrong Wannabes" hate the bike trails because then they have to contend with the slower traffic......so they hit the roads and become the slow traffic but don't care......until one gets turned into a speed bump.
Fortunately the "Lance Armstrong wannabes" are in the very small minority...but you still have to watch out for them.
I should add...couple times I've gotten in front of these packs and then SLOWEDDDDD WAYYYY DOWNNN.....and then sped up....and then (you get the point). I broke no laws... just like they have broken no laws riding on the road. I did have one time when after doing this the bikes spread out across the whole road to prevent me from passing them again...which of course was illegal for them to do.
Jerk move? Yes. Designed to annoy them into using a bike trail that was right along the road? Yes.
