I see where the 2017 point guard from NC Blake Harris and 5 star 2018 guard Immanuel Quickley have decided they are not going to Washington after Romar was released. Plus 2018 forward Jontay Porter has said he will not be attending Washington - but this was expected since his brother will probably follow their dad to Missouri.
Recruits opting out at Washington
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I hope that the coaches would at least make contact, but if there wasn't some prior relationship, highly unlikely that Iowa would get much interest.
If the Porters were exchanged on Wall Street, Cuonzo Martin would be up on insider trading charges. Good thing Cuonzo is not consider a strong x and o coach.
You wouldn't take a 5* over Uhl, Ellingson, or Williams??? Most coaches "Crean" guys to make room for better talent. ISU has lived off doing this. Iowa needs to play the game.
Nope, I wouldn't. F's over a Hawkeye, it is a joke and it'll cost them in the long run.
If they were true Hawks they would offer up their rides for a better player.
Depends on the player. If you got a kid that just wants to play and the school is irrelevant, tell him that he won't see many minutes and it would be better for him to transfer.
I got no issue with a coach going to a kid and saying thank you for your commitment to the program and we wish you well.
Then you have the staffers make some calls and get in touch with other coaches. How many mid-majors wouldn't like to have a dude like Dailey or Williams on their rosters? Long and athletic with low TO #'s and solid defensively.
Just saying that if you got a chance for a difference maker, you make room. Worry about the rest later.
I got no issue with a coach going to a kid and saying thank you for your commitment to the program and we wish you well.
Then you have the staffers make some calls and get in touch with other coaches. How many mid-majors wouldn't like to have a dude like Dailey or Williams on their rosters? Long and athletic with low TO #'s and solid defensively.
Just saying that if you got a chance for a difference maker, you make room. Worry about the rest later.
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Hey you're a better ball player. Take my scholarship and spot on the team, I'll just pay my own way through college from here out!
There are times where a coach would be doing a kid a favor by telling him that he is very unlikely to be in the rotation in future years. I suspect most kids would already know that. If the kid still wanted to stay, I wouldn't Crean him, but there are probably more than a few coaches who would. I think Fran would stick by a kid, if he wanted to stay despite not being good enough to play very much.
You know I'd love to see the Hawks make a run at a final four again as much as anyone on here. My hope is that were able to do it with some degree of integrity. What ever happened to a coach who sits in a players living room, and tells his parents, he'll be there for him. Give his best effort to make him the best player he can be. To help him grow and earn a degree from a university he'll take with him with pride. I'm fully aware of how the games played now, by schools in the chase for the elusive crown, but what happened to the schools being their for the "Student Athlete"? What exactly is the mission of these schools now?
Have you played competitive sports at any level? Assuming you have, you should agree that this is 100% a loser's mentality. You think to-be senior Dom Uhl believes that a freshman should be able to come in and just take his spot? You would bust your *** every day for three years and then quit because somebody with more stars by their name wanted to join the program?
No, I wouldn't expect a "real Hawk," or even a real competitor at any level to just give up their spot on the team unless Fran specifically told them that they weren't going to see many minutes.
Well to be fair I think most of us agree Uhl shouldn't get very many minutes and I think he should get 0 mpg
The same applies to every player, including Ellingson and Williams. I just used Dom as an example, but that wasn't the point. The point is that no competing athlete has that mentality because it's a loser's mentality
From what we've seen of Dom on the court this year, yes I think he expects both freshman bigs to be ahead of him.
Crean was recruiting over kids before they even played. The guys I would like to see leave have already demonstrated that they are not adequate big ten players.
Once schools have sold their soul to TV (Big10, SEC, Texas, etc) and have their own networks and go after their share of the pie it is clear player academics is second fiddle to athletics. Heck, Iowa also sold out all the little radio stations in favor of a statewide network for more money. When coaches are paid what they are, and their assistants salaries have also escalated it is clear that being competitive in athletics is more important than academics at most Power 5 schools.
College athletics is about money not grades or degrees. The NCAA can monitor graduation rates all it wants but schools find ways to get around it like North Carolina did for decades.
College athletics is about money not grades or degrees. The NCAA can monitor graduation rates all it wants but schools find ways to get around it like North Carolina did for decades.
My guess is that Harris ends up closer to home and Quickley will land at Kentucky after their stud freshman guards both go pro after this year.
Mizzou does not think that the Porter thing is a done deal. Lots of moving parts, the kid is interested in playing with a friend at OK, still going to talk UW new coach, ect. He may end up here but there is a lot of hand wringing going on.
I would like to see the NCAA put in a rule that states (in order to sign a recruit) said parent should be coaching at the school 2-3 years prior to student enrolling. I just think its BS that these schools hire a relative and get the player for 1-2 years and then that relative leaves?
Not disagreeing with what you say whatsoever, I think somehow they need to be able to do something but what? Under your proposal, without a parent as a coach, said player is free to go to any school in the country. With a parent as a coach, that essentially eliminates that school as an option in their first couple years coaching. To me, that also doesn't seem right
That really isn't whats at issue here though. Basically certain schools are trying to recruit five star player X, and X's dad is a coach, so they hire him to get to the kid. Many of these schools, especially in basketball basically make up some bogus title for the new "coach", then he usually move's on within a couple of years, because he has outlived his usefulness.
This is nothing new. This article is from 34 years ago.
http://www.nytimes.com/1983/09/30/sports/wanted-coach-and-son.html
