RFK hearing day - So do we want transparency and accountability?

[naturalbornhawk]

Glad you ignored my response rebuking your take on the report you posted .

There, now I addressed it. I keep coming through for you and you're still not coming through for me. What's the hold-up?

 

[naturalbornhawk]

it doesn’t prove what you think it does.

Oh, believe me, it says exactly what I thought it did. That there is insufficient data to prove either way whether or not DTaP causes autism. That means they reviewed all literature they could get their hands on which is basically everything, and they were not able to conclude that DTaP doesn't cause autism. That means your assertion that it's been ruled out is not in any way shape or form accurate, which basically means that you have no clue WTF you're talking about. Game set match.

 

[bunsen82]

Oh, believe me, it says exactly what I thought it did. That there is insufficient data to prove either way whether or not DTaP causes autism. That means they reviewed all literature they could get their hands on which is basically everything, and they were not able to conclude that DTaP doesn't cause autism. That means your assertion that it's been ruled out is not in any way shape or form accurate, which basically means that you have no clue WTF you're talking about. Game set match.

Please repost what their opening statement is, you just ignored their entire synopsis. Vaccines are safe with very minimal adverse effects. You know in paper how in the opening paragraph you put you main point, or thesis. This is their main point. Then they go into what adverse effects there are. They sure has hell did not prove that DTAP causes autism. It’s like you are running around in circles. Your debating skills suck.

 

[naturalbornhawk]

It’s like you are running around in circles. Your debating skills suck.

I'm running around in circles with my arms up cheering because you just got curb stomped.

 

[bunsen82]

I'm running around in circles with my arms up cheering because you just got curb stomped.

Over what that you don’t understand what a thesis is? What are you still back in 3rd grade? Still waiting for you to prove vaccines cause autism, I’ll be waiting for hell to freeze over.

 

[naturalbornhawk]

Over what that you don’t understand what a thesis is? What are you still back in 3rd grade? Still waiting for you to prove vaccines cause autism, I’ll be waiting for hell to freeze over.

I've given up on you posting those publications, or telling me where you posted it. By now that only leads me to one conclusion, you must have lied. By contrast, I provided you with your requested data, AND a link to where I previously posted it, with zero critique of the studies by you. Tell me, what else do you want me to conclude?

 

[naturalbornhawk]

72% and 43% respectively.

back up to 76% btw.

 

[naturalbornhawk]

Aluminum exposure???? what are you proving, I don't see anything saying vaccines cause autism.

If you were really looking for answers, you might be interested in reading this:

https://icandecide.org/wp-content/uploads/2019/09/ICAN-AluminumAdjuvant-Autism-2.pdf

But you aren't interested. You're just interested in gripping tightly to your own closed-minded personal beliefs. It's really incredible. You know that's not the way science is supposed to work, right?

 

[bunsen82]

I've given up on you posting those publications, or telling me where you posted it. By now that only leads me to one conclusion, you must have lied. By contrast, I provided you with your requested data, AND a link to where I previously posted it, with zero critique of the studies by you. Tell me, what else do you want me to conclude?

I posted a website with like 20 studies are you blind?

Here I was waiting on your big rebuttal, you know what I got?

Although vaccines like anything are not 100% safe, they have very few adverse reactions. My response was the following:

 

[bunsen82]

I've given up on you posting those publications, or telling me where you posted it. By now that only leads me to one conclusion, you must have lied. By contrast, I provided you with your requested data, AND a link to where I previously posted it, with zero critique of the studies by you. Tell me, what else do you want me to conclude?

Post 271, are you literally retarded.

 

[bunsen82]

Synopsis of last 2 pages, natural is retarded, who can’t read basic posts, reads studies and think they support his claim when in realist they aren’t and he idolizes his buddy RFK. There is nothing more discussing with him. He will keep circling the drain on his Twitter feed looking for the next hair-brained post on anti vaccines.

 

[naturalbornhawk]

Post 271, are you literally retarded.

And do you know what every single one of those studies have in common? Every single study only looked at MMR, or thimerosal, or both. That's what I specifically asked you to avoid. I asked for studies outside of that vaccine type, and that one ingredient. Come on bunsen. Be better.

 

[naturalbornhawk]

Synopsis of last 2 pages, natural is retarded, who can’t read basic posts, reads studies and think they support his claim when in realist they aren’t and he idolizes his buddy RFK. There is nothing more discussing with him. He will keep circling the drain on his Twitter feed looking for the next hair-brained post on anti vaccines.

MMR, thimerosal, or both. Throw in an occasional meta analysis of only those studies, you know with more kids to make it look impressive when it's just more of the same. Wash rinse repeat. After going over this with you several times now you'd think you would understand.

 

[bunsen82]

And do you know what every single one of those studies have in common? Every single study only looked at MMR, or thimerosal, or both. That's what I specifically asked you to avoid. I asked for studies outside of that vaccine type, and that one ingredient. Come on bunsen. Be better.

Why do I have to avoid studies dipshit, you asked for studies I gave you studies, end of story. You have given me zero peer reviewed articles stating vaccines are unsafe beyond a few minute adverse effects which are far outweighed by the benefits of vaccines.

 

[naturalbornhawk]

Why do I have to avoid studies dipshit, you asked for studies I gave you studies, end of story. You have given me zero peer reviewed articles stating vaccines are unsafe beyond a few minute adverse effects which are far outweighed by the benefits of vaccines.

In my very first post nearly 18 years ago questioning vaccines I had tarheel post over 100 MMR + thimerosal studies claiming the science was settled, along with several other choice words. I didn't know what to do with them at first. After looking into it deeper I learned that they all had those 2 exact same common denominators. That's why I specifically said right at the start of my request to provide studies OTHER THAN MMR and thimerosal. I have already been provided those studies and many more like them. Then you post studies I asked you to avoid and then call me a retard for not accepting them. LMAO!

Bunsen. I know that well over 100 MMR and thimerosal studies exist. I'm telling you that's one ingredient and one vaccine type. There are many other ingredients and there are many other vaccines on the childhood schedule. I asked you to provide any studies you can find other than those two. If those studies existed they would have been provided to me by now after all these years. The only conclusion that I am forced to come to is that they haven't tested the other vaccines or the other ingredients or any combination thereof with any type of favorable results indicating safety.