RFK hearing day - So do we want transparency and accountability?
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Link to source for number? That's just an image anybody could've produced
Find an RCT that proves the vaccines saved even one life. They're all models.
And the trials done showed one more death in the Pfizer group than control group.
Never should have been approved.
They're not models you idiot. They're done friggin studies amongst populations that did and didn't receive the vaccine -- you know, the real life result of getting it or not.
I could do this all day.
Researchers aimed to quantify the global impact of the first year of COVID‐19 vaccination programmes using mathematical modelling to fit COVID‐19 transmission and vaccination to reported COVID‐19 mortality and all‐cause excess mortality in 185 countries and territories.
Lives saved by COVID‐19 vaccines - PMC
pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov
Over nearly 2·5 years, most lives saved by COVID-19 vaccination were in older adults by first booster dose and during the Omicron period, reinforcing the importance of up-to-date vaccination among the most at-risk individuals. Further modelling work should evaluate indirect effects of vaccination and public health and social measures.
More than 1.49 million people died of COVID-19 in the studied countries over the study period, the researchers found after accounting for underreporting. Reported deaths over the same period numbered 1.05 million. Had there been no vaccine, 2.10 million to 4.11 million people likely would have died, the model estimated.
lol, you're not proving anything, fool. Those are models attempting to extrapolate how many lives might have been saved at scale.I could do this all day.
Researchers aimed to quantify the global impact of the first year of COVID‐19 vaccination programmes using mathematical modelling to fit COVID‐19 transmission and vaccination to reported COVID‐19 mortality and all‐cause excess mortality in 185 countries and territories.
Lives saved by COVID‐19 vaccines - PMC
Over nearly 2·5 years, most lives saved by COVID-19 vaccination were in older adults by first booster dose and during the Omicron period, reinforcing the importance of up-to-date vaccination among the most at-risk individuals. Further modelling work should evaluate indirect effects of vaccination and public health and social measures.
More than 1.49 million people died of COVID-19 in the studied countries over the study period, the researchers found after accounting for underreporting. Reported deaths over the same period numbered 1.05 million. Had there been no vaccine, 2.10 million to 4.11 million people likely would have died, the model estimated.
There have been plenty of studies of population groups that show the people that got the vaccine died far less from covid than the people that did not get the vaccine.
Since don't have good demographic data on everyone that did or didn't receive the vaccine the information from the studies is extrapolated into models that try to guess (to the best of their ability) at the net effect.
You're ignoring the studies that show populations performance with the vaccine vs without.
There are tons of them
COVID-19 Incidence and Death Rates Among Unvaccinated ...
This report describes COVID-19 incidence rate ratios for unvaccinated versus fully vaccinated persons with and without booster vaccine doses during the emergence of the Omicron variant.
www.cdc.gov
PFIZER JUST RELEASED ITS LIST OF SIDE EFFECTS OF ITS
"COVID-19 VACCINE"
The list of some side effects of the Pfizer-Biontech Covid-19 Vaccine.
Take the Ddimmer blood test to detect:
Blood thrombosis.
Acute kidney injury,
Acute flaccid myelitis,
Positive antisperm antibodies,
Brainstem embolism,
Brainstem thrombosis,
Cardiac arrest (hundreds of cases),
Heart failure,
Cardiac ventricular thrombosis,
Cardiogenic shock,
Central nervous system vasculitis,
Neonatal death,
Deep vein thrombosis,
Brainstem encephalitis,
Hemorrhagic encephalitis,
Frontal lobe epilepsy,
Foaming at the mouth,
Epileptic psychosis,
Facial paralysis,
Fetal distress syndrome,
Gastrointestinal amyloidosis,
Generalized tonic-clonic seizure,
Hashimoto's encephalopathy,
Hepatic vascular thrombosis,
Herpes zoster reactivation,
Hepatitis Immune-mediated,
Interstitial lung disease,
Jugular vein embolism,
Juvenile myoclonic epilepsy,
Liver damage,
Low birth weight,
Multisystem inflammatory syndrome in children,
Myocarditis,
Neonatal seizure,
Pancreatitis,
Pneumonia,
Stillbirth,
Tachycardia,
Temporal lobe epilepsy,
Testicular autoimmunity,
Thrombotic stroke,
Type 1 diabetes mellitus,
Neonatal venous thrombosis,
Vertebral artery thrombosis,
Pericarditis,
Sudden death.”
Still there bud? You ready to admit defeat? Another study linked in the post above^
PFIZER JUST RELEASED ITS LIST OF SIDE EFFECTS OF ITS
"COVID-19 VACCINE"
The list of some side effects of the Pfizer-Biontech Covid-19 Vaccine.
Take the Ddimmer blood test to detect:
Blood thrombosis.
Acute kidney injury,
Acute flaccid myelitis,
Positive antisperm antibodies,
Brainstem embolism,
Brainstem thrombosis,
Cardiac arrest (hundreds of cases),
Heart failure,
Cardiac ventricular thrombosis,
Cardiogenic shock,
Central nervous system vasculitis,
Neonatal death,
Deep vein thrombosis,
Brainstem encephalitis,
Hemorrhagic encephalitis,
Frontal lobe epilepsy,
Foaming at the mouth,
Epileptic psychosis,
Facial paralysis,
Fetal distress syndrome,
Gastrointestinal amyloidosis,
Generalized tonic-clonic seizure,
Hashimoto's encephalopathy,
Hepatic vascular thrombosis,
Herpes zoster reactivation,
Hepatitis Immune-mediated,
Interstitial lung disease,
Jugular vein embolism,
Juvenile myoclonic epilepsy,
Liver damage,
Low birth weight,
Multisystem inflammatory syndrome in children,
Myocarditis,
Neonatal seizure,
Pancreatitis,
Pneumonia,
Stillbirth,
Tachycardia,
Temporal lobe epilepsy,
Testicular autoimmunity,
Thrombotic stroke,
Type 1 diabetes mellitus,
Neonatal venous thrombosis,
Vertebral artery thrombosis,
Pericarditis,
Sudden death.”
Stop wasting people's time with this shitPFIZER JUST RELEASED ITS LIST OF SIDE EFFECTS OF ITS
"COVID-19 VACCINE"
The list of some side effects of the Pfizer-Biontech Covid-19 Vaccine.
Take the Ddimmer blood test to detect:
Blood thrombosis.
Acute kidney injury,
Acute flaccid myelitis,
Positive antisperm antibodies,
Brainstem embolism,
Brainstem thrombosis,
Cardiac arrest (hundreds of cases),
Heart failure,
Cardiac ventricular thrombosis,
Cardiogenic shock,
Central nervous system vasculitis,
Neonatal death,
Deep vein thrombosis,
Brainstem encephalitis,
Hemorrhagic encephalitis,
Frontal lobe epilepsy,
Foaming at the mouth,
Epileptic psychosis,
Facial paralysis,
Fetal distress syndrome,
Gastrointestinal amyloidosis,
Generalized tonic-clonic seizure,
Hashimoto's encephalopathy,
Hepatic vascular thrombosis,
Herpes zoster reactivation,
Hepatitis Immune-mediated,
Interstitial lung disease,
Jugular vein embolism,
Juvenile myoclonic epilepsy,
Liver damage,
Low birth weight,
Multisystem inflammatory syndrome in children,
Myocarditis,
Neonatal seizure,
Pancreatitis,
Pneumonia,
Stillbirth,
Tachycardia,
Temporal lobe epilepsy,
Testicular autoimmunity,
Thrombotic stroke,
Type 1 diabetes mellitus,
Neonatal venous thrombosis,
Vertebral artery thrombosis,
Pericarditis,
Sudden death.”
Fact Check: Years-Old List of Alleged Pfizer COVID-19 Vaccine 'Side Effects' Is Misleading
The list contains "adverse events" reported to Pfizer, which are not the same as side effects.
Stop wasting people's time with this shit
Fact Check: Years-Old List of Alleged Pfizer COVID-19 Vaccine 'Side Effects' Is Misleading
The list contains "adverse events" reported to Pfizer, which are not the same as side effects.www.yahoo.com
Adverse Events Aren't the Same as Side Effects but they hurt and cause damage all the same.
It's no longer fringe because they've F'd with too many families. So much for vaccine injury being 1 in a million. Those days of people claiming that are OVER. And this is just the tip of the iceberg. The vaccine injury enlightenment period is about to begin.
Flawed models based on assumptions re: the vaccine's ability to stop infection and transmission.lol, you're not proving anything, fool. Those are models attempting to extrapolate how many lives might have been saved at scale.
There have been plenty of studies of population groups that show the people that got the vaccine died far less from covid than the people that did not get the vaccine.
Since don't have good demographic data on everyone that did or didn't receive the vaccine the information from the studies is extrapolated into models that try to guess (to the best of their ability) at the net effect.
You're ignoring the studies that show populations performance with the vaccine vs without.
There are tons of them
COVID-19 Incidence and Death Rates Among Unvaccinated ...
This report describes COVID-19 incidence rate ratios for unvaccinated versus fully vaccinated persons with and without booster vaccine doses during the emergence of the Omicron variant.
No clinical trials. Knock yourself out; boost away. I'm not taking that garbage.
RFK is a moron.
NO you are moron, that doesn't realize what you are arguing. I am done debating with a numbskull. When you bring up RFK and his entities as an authority on vaccines, and research that they have funded, yes you are a moron. You can find any fact you want to find. There were 3 or 4 doctors on the committee, that extremely disagreed with RFK, discussed his misinformation, his lies, his ability to try to say whatever he can A to get nominated by trump - fyi now suddenly switching his stance on abortions. To trying to back track statements on vaccines, then kind of still going back to his vaccine stances. He is 2 faced just trying to get a position.
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You completely failed to address my point and the studies that specifically looked at how people fared during the outbreak when divided into the groups of received vaccine or did not receive vaccine.
The models were built on these observations, for which there are plenty.
You're the one who can't provide evidence for your position, and ignores the evidence for mine. There's not much left to be said after that. It's all part of the closed-minded cult. But hey, you do you.
I left a whole site with more research than you presented. But some how you discredit that. See to be a bit two faced as well. You and RFK pair up well. You cheat on your wife as well?
I already addressed it: there are NO clinical studies done that prove even one life has been saved from these injections.
(From your CDC article)
...numbers of unvaccinated persons were estimated by subtracting the numbers of fully and partially vaccinated persons from 2019 U.S. intercensal population estimates.
To assess the impact of full vaccination with additional and booster doses (booster doses),¶ case and death rates and incidence rate ratios (IRRs) were estimated among unvaccinated and fully vaccinated adults...
And there was this totally fabricated load of bull shit:
During October–November, unvaccinated persons had 13.9 and 53.2 times the risks for infection and COVID-19–associated death, respectively, compared with fully vaccinated persons who received booster doses. 🤣 🤣 🤣
Oh jesus christ. What's the study design that would verify then? Please elucidate.
We both understand that following two sets of people -- vac and non -- during an outbreak would say a whole lot. That's been done and you can find it on google with a few clicks.
We both know this.
I’m just ready for another outbreak and a thinning of the herd. Stupidity needs to be buried. RFK has gotten every vaccine including Covid shots.
RFK Jr. kept asking to see the science that vaccines were safe. After he saw it, he dismissed it
The man who hopes to be President Donald Trump’s health secretary says he needs to see data showing vaccines are safe, but he dismissed the evidence shown by an influential Republican senator.
apnews.com
This is natural and Michael.
Sounds scary. Will it be as dangerous as the last one and bring more winters of 'severe sickness and death' like Biden promised?
Private emails show RFK Jr. making false claims about Covid-19 shots, linking vaccines to autism
Kennedy's niece, a NYC physician, shares private emails, says public needs to see what she calls her uncle’s misguided views and conspiracy theories.
www.statnews.com
Yeah, like the bullshit study Joes Place use to bring up all the time about covid deaths being higher among Republicans than Democrats?
Except when you actually read the study they didn't compare actual voters who did/didn't get the vaccine and actual voters who did/didn't die, they only looked at total votes and ASSUMED who was getting injected and who wasn't.
Junk science.
They knew.PFIZER JUST RELEASED ITS LIST OF SIDE EFFECTS OF ITS
"COVID-19 VACCINE"
The list of some side effects of the Pfizer-Biontech Covid-19 Vaccine.
Take the Ddimmer blood test to detect:
Blood thrombosis.
Acute kidney injury,
Acute flaccid myelitis,
Positive antisperm antibodies,
Brainstem embolism,
Brainstem thrombosis,
Cardiac arrest (hundreds of cases),
Heart failure,
Cardiac ventricular thrombosis,
Cardiogenic shock,
Central nervous system vasculitis,
Neonatal death,
Deep vein thrombosis,
Brainstem encephalitis,
Hemorrhagic encephalitis,
Frontal lobe epilepsy,
Foaming at the mouth,
Epileptic psychosis,
Facial paralysis,
Fetal distress syndrome,
Gastrointestinal amyloidosis,
Generalized tonic-clonic seizure,
Hashimoto's encephalopathy,
Hepatic vascular thrombosis,
Herpes zoster reactivation,
Hepatitis Immune-mediated,
Interstitial lung disease,
Jugular vein embolism,
Juvenile myoclonic epilepsy,
Liver damage,
Low birth weight,
Multisystem inflammatory syndrome in children,
Myocarditis,
Neonatal seizure,
Pancreatitis,
Pneumonia,
Stillbirth,
Tachycardia,
Temporal lobe epilepsy,
Testicular autoimmunity,
Thrombotic stroke,
Type 1 diabetes mellitus,
Neonatal venous thrombosis,
Vertebral artery thrombosis,
Pericarditis,
Sudden death.”
Report 69: BOMBSHELL - Pfizer and FDA Knew in Early 2021 That Pfizer mRNA COVID "Vaccine" Caused Dire Fetal and Infant Risks, Including Death. They Began an Aggressive Campaign to Vaccinate Pregnant Women Anyway.
BOMBSHELL: Pfizer and the FDA Knew in Early 2021 That the Pfizer mRNA COVID "Vaccine" Caused Dire Fetal and Infant Risks. They Began an Aggre
dailyclout.io
Post it here. Or. Tell me exactly where the post is. Like I did for you. Be a good chap and put your money where your mouth is.
It was shoddy fraudulent science that he was presented. What do you expect? Like I told you it's extremely poorly designed and intentionally misleading. It says in the title "vaccines" as if they were all tested, but in reality it was one ingredient and one vaccine. What the hell is so difficult to understand about this?
RFK Jr. kept asking to see the science that vaccines were safe. After he saw it, he dismissed it
The man who hopes to be President Donald Trump’s health secretary says he needs to see data showing vaccines are safe, but he dismissed the evidence shown by an influential Republican senator.
This is natural and Michael.
