Rhoads...
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It was in his presser. Reading between the lines, I bet it was a disagreement over the QB situation since they "couldn't get on the same page."
Probably just saving face at this point.
Probably just saving face at this point.
We may never know, but I would bet he was on a short leash with his 'behavior' issues in the past and when it's ugly head arose again, he go bye, bye. Just a feeling because of the timing of it and the offense has not been horrible and not their biggest problem imho.
Idk, their offense hasn't been all that great by B12 standards. Their defense sucks plenty too, but imo, the offense Mangino has been running doesn't make any sense. They've got big and talented receivers and a couple decent RB's. The sideways passing game didnt fit because they lack the speed of the Texas schools. With their personnel, they should try to become Stanford lite and become a power/ball control team against the weak B12 defenses. They can't out-B12 the B12 if that makes sense.
I simply don't understand dumping your OC ... mid-season ... Especially when your entire program s*cks and your head coach is on his way out the door as well ... Mangino is not the cause of ISU being horrible. Paul Rhoads is the reason ISU is horrible ... If he was going to dump anyone it should be the DC ... ISU's defense is horrible and has been horrible ... Obviously, don't know the details but seems like a pretty cruddy move and tossing Mangino under the bus so Rhoads can take some attention heat off of himself ...
Did you read my post? If you did you would 'understand'. You weren't aware of this guys 'behavioral' problems?
Prophet, I would guess it has more to do with Rhoads hoping he can keep his job one more year.
Cool to see for Sturdy, he was the Head Coach at St Ambrose for a long time as well.
I doubt that it deals with 'behavior' issues. Since he's not the head coach, he's much less likely to wield around bullying power. Players aren't dumb ... they know Mangino's past and know that he'd be on a short leash if there were any behavior issues.
If you watch ISU's recruiting, they've been hitting the JUCO circuit ultra-hard. Why? Because good ole Paul is feeling some serious heat. In all likelihood, Mangino is a scapegoat here. ISU fans are ridiculously loyal (one of their more admirable traits) - and they need to be thrown a bone that demonstrates that some sort of change is being done attempting to "right the ship." Paul is still really well liked as a coach ... and they're willing to give him a long leash. But there is now increasing pressure for results ... and if they don't get them, we'll be seeing Paul's head rolling eventually too.
Well,unless they come out and straight up tell us, all we can do is guess and I like my guess better than yours
!I said Pellini got fired for his behavior, everyone argued with me, then they came out and flat out said it was over his behavior. If there was an incident(s) with Mandingo (Margarine, whatever his name is, can't stand the guy) it will probably eventually come out. It is hard to hide that stuff in todays world. You might never find out in the old days.
Convenient timing too, considering they just played the two toughest teams. Now if they can pull off a win, or keep games close, it'll have ISU fans believing that improvement is on the horizon. Good lord. Paul, you hired the guy, it's your fault.
I thought Mangino was supposed to lead ISU and their offense to the promised land...
Exactly. It wasn't long ago that many ISU fans were saying Mangino was in line to take CPR's spot when he got fired.
I think PR is doing him a favor but cutting him now. Illinois/Maryland and probably Rutgers will need a new coach. Those are schools that might take a chance on MM. I think PR knows it's over for him at ISU and is giving MM time to find a better gig
So did Rhoads, I think.
I don't know any more about this than anybody else on the board, and I don't know any Cyclone fans who know much about it, either. Obviously, it's not something a coach does in the middle of a winning season with no worries about his job security.
There have been hints for some time that things weren't all sweetness and light between Rhoads and Mangino the Elder (his son stays on the staff as receivers coach). In the TCU game, Lanning was in for two plays in the first half: He ran the option for three or four yards, then threw a 74-yard TD pass. He never played again. Rhoads was asked about that in the post-game interview and said it was "something we'll look about during our review Sunday." Later, he was asked if he made the decisions on who played and said he did not.
Speculation is that Mangino didn't want to replace Sam with Lanning for the Texas game Saturday. (Sam has played well against the teasips the past two years in games that went down to the last minute).
In the broader sense, those who say the biggest problem for ISU this year is the defense simply haven't watched ISU or don't understand the game. The offense has started out OK in a couple of games -- Iowa and TCU -- and then when adjustments were made by the opponent, absolutely disappeared, leaving the defense hung out to dry.
Saying the offense has been the problem, though, isn't the same as saying the offensive coordinator has been the problem. Rhoads has had four of them, and never had a strong offense. Even when Tom Herman was OC, the offense sucked.
It will be interesting to see what news comes out in the next few days and weeks.
There it is, Rhoads just wanted to make it more difficult for ISU to can him mid-season by firing the heir apparent!
Well,unless they come out and straight up tell us, all we can do is guess and I like my guess better than yours
I said Pellini got fired for his behavior, everyone argued with me, then they came out and flat out said it was over his behavior. If there was an incident(s) with Mandingo (Margarine, whatever his name is, can't stand the guy) it will probably eventually come out. It is hard to hide that stuff in todays world. You might never find out in the old days.
Pelini didn't get fired just for his behavior. His behavior was just the straw that broke the camels back. Nebraska and it's fans grew tired of not being able to win big games. This was the core of the Pelini firing. His behavior just made it easy.
There has been no such thing going on with Mangino at ISU, not even a hint of it. It's already been reported that the firing is over disagreements with the direction of the offense. Mangino is actually a really good OC and I would trust that he knows how to run an offense over Paul Rhoads.
This is Rhoads' last gasp at keeping the ISU job. If the ISU AD has any sense, he'll get rid of Rhoads at season's end. It just baffles me that he's still there.
This is an interesting story and I am curious to see what starts to come out in the next few weeks or after the season. It isn't going to help Mangino find another job if he is fired for not listening to the head coach so that explanation isn't doing him any favors. I saw a tweet on the espn story with a player saying "just a HC trying to save his a@@." On the other hand, Mangino's son is still on the staff so maybe it was just Mangino sticking for what he believes is best for the offense.
I have been surprised that the offense hasn't produced more. They have played some very poor defensive teams and haven't scored like I thought they would. We will see what happens in the next week to see how the team responds.
I don't think anybody is suggesting the responsibility isn't the head coach's. He isn't suggesting that. Jamie isn't suggesting that. Hell, I haven't even seen any of us board idiots suggesting that.
And it ain't like the road ahead is paved with pussies. Two of our next three opponents probably will be in the Top Ten when we play them.
shouldn't ISU be more concerned about how the defense can't ever stop anyone? I guess in the Big XII no one really cares about that side of the ball
Interesting, I'm not certain what the implication of that would be. Are you suggesting that it's likely more attributable to behavior issues then?
In PR's defense, ISU is the reason ISU is bad.....PR was just filling the HC role until somebody else takes over when he gets fired and the cycle goes on and on
Iowa State logic. Problem: Defense is 113 out of 127. Solution: Fire the OC.
They are in the middle of bad juju or karma after firing McCarney for not winning big enough, similar to what we went through in basketball after letting Davis go. Chizik appears to have at least recruited some talent to Ames as PR won his first year there with Gene's recruits, but it seems like the wheels have fallen off.
Pollard has a tough decision to make this winter...there are a lot of good jobs in college football that are vacant, so if Iowa St. were to make a change, they wouldn't be getting the cream of the crop so to speak, they would likely have to take a gamble on a young up and coming coach or perhaps an assistant looking to climb the ladder. I think ISU has to take the route of hiring someone with head coaching experience, it just seems like too tough of a job to go with an assistant that might be a hot name, but has no head coaching experience. I think Iowa St. probably has to take the route Minnesota did with Kill...hire a proven coach from a smaller school that has a track record of success and hope he can stabilize the program that way by bringing a lot of familiar faces with him. Dan McCarney proved you could win at Iowa St., not big every year, but decent success with some bowl games mixed in every few years.
When does Pollard catch some heat for the mess that is ISU football? If Rhoads is let go, he is 0-2 on FB coaches.How will they sell tickets to this crap?
Letting DM go was a big big mistake.
It would take an all out JUCO approach to be competitive.
Letting DM go was a big big mistake.
It would take an all out JUCO approach to be competitive.
