He can NOT be on scholly for baseball and play on the basketball team, basketball would have to provide the scholly. It is meant to stop a school from being at their scholly limit for football or basketball and playing "games" giving a player (for instance) tennis scholly. Can you imagine some of the shenanigans that would go on!
Rumor: Williams to Transfer
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He can NOT be on scholly for baseball and play on the basketball team, basketball would have to provide the scholly. It is meant to stop a school from being at their scholly limit for football or basketball and playing "games" giving a player (for instance) tennis scholly. Can you imagine some of the shenanigans that would go on!
Counter points.
If we get another ballhandling guard they likely wont be shorter than Bohanon. If Moss then plays the 3 you put JBO on the least effective perimiter player of the opposition. Then match up the other two however works.
Also Iowa plays zone most of the time, so its not an issue there.
I dont think JBO as an off the ball guard would play the same role as Jok. More of a freelance spot up shooter. Ellingson played the two this year without any life threatening events, and Moss was our starting 2 guard and he didn't run off screens much at all.
Besides, Jok isn't very good at running off screens so I dont think hes the standard to look at. Smaller guys can sometimes be more effective it. Its its own skill set.
You can play two smaller guards together. Kansas did it this year.
(That's true, depending on what you run and how you defend.)
Good points. I hilited the ones I still have issue with or actually agree with entirely.
Depends on the theoretical transfer. Moss is plenty big enough to play the 3.
Iowas offense needs to have the dimension of being able to put the ball on the floor and get to the hoop to finish or kick out from someone.
I don't see returning minutes as something worth worrying about. It will shake out.
Still seems weird. If Connor were 10x's the baseball player and was capable as a basketball player, it would make sense he'd get the better deal thru baseball. I realize they have to watch out for those who would look for the "loopholes" in order to obtain as many players as possible for the money makers.
I suppose Jameis Winston was on a Football scholarship when he played baseball at Florida State, and I think he was accomplished at both.
Dan and I actually agree for a change. Bohannon's offensive game more than makes up for his defensive weakness. It will only continue to be a problem if we replace a poor defender (Jok) with another poor defender, next season. We can't afford to put another poor defender on the perimeter and expect better results next season.
If we get an open scholly the only acute need is a reserve point guard. Obviously a great point guard transfer would be good because an team that starts two point guards is much more dangerous than a conventional line up-as long as at least one of the starters can shoot.
Counter points.
If your going to bring in another guard hes got to be taller and a better defender. Minimum 6'0 hopefully 6'2+. Otherwise no go unless too good to pass on.
I also hate zone.
Yes he would draw attention but you don't have to run off screens. (we don't know if hes good at it or not) And if he does he might be good at it. Its really all about setting up a defender and running them into screens. Steph Curry is the best in the world at this and hes tiny by NBA standards. Its about quickness and change of speed and direction, as well as stamina. (also knowing when to push off and get away with it ala Reggie Miller) Jok would to often get caught up trying to out muscle his guy and run through them.
The point of getting a guy who can penetrate would be to collapse the D for others as much as anything else. Once you break down the D, good ball movment then gets good shots.
Jok (and JBO) would have gotten so many more easy looks this year if we had a guy who could get by his man consistently.
If your going to bring in another guard hes got to be taller and a better defender. Minimum 6'0 hopefully 6'2+. Otherwise no go unless too good to pass on.
I also hate zone.
Yes he would draw attention but you don't have to run off screens. (we don't know if hes good at it or not) And if he does he might be good at it. Its really all about setting up a defender and running them into screens. Steph Curry is the best in the world at this and hes tiny by NBA standards. Its about quickness and change of speed and direction, as well as stamina. (also knowing when to push off and get away with it ala Reggie Miller) Jok would to often get caught up trying to out muscle his guy and run through them.
The point of getting a guy who can penetrate would be to collapse the D for others as much as anything else. Once you break down the D, good ball movment then gets good shots.
Jok (and JBO) would have gotten so many more easy looks this year if we had a guy who could get by his man consistently.
The zone defense is becoming less and less effective in today's college game. Too many capable 3pt shooters. It's a poor option against good P5 teams.
I played baseball at Iowa with a couple of the football players. Football/baseball is fairly common. Basketball/baseball is obviously a little more difficult because of the seasons overlapping.
That was because our defense sucked so bad. Or Fran's recruiting defensive capable guards sucked so bad. Which ever way you want to look at it.
Please spend some time and come up with a list of remaining available high school senior point guards that you feel could help Iowa next year. Then list where they are from and what interest they would have in coming to Iowa where they would have to overtake a freshman point guard that had the best season of any freshman point guards in Iowa history. Then list how many 5th year point guards that you feel could help Iowa next year and would like to walk on for their final year.....exactly. If a scholarship opens up, Conner will get it and he deserves it from his play on the court the last 4 years not because he is the son of our head coach....
I still can't believe the people who under-estimate what Connor may bring to this team next year. I follow MVC high school basketball very closely and Connor would be thought by many to be a better prospect than Jordan Bohannon was at this time last year. Jordon did great, so I see Connor making a huge contribution next year. A 4-star player (in a couple of lists) like Connor, who played tougher competition than Dailey or Williams did in high school, should start practice at a much higher level than those two kids did.
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Connor is going to play basketball, I can't believe some people on here believe he will sit out a year. HE CAN PLAY BOTH SPORTS in the same school year , ya know.
If Williams is transferring, a possible scenario as to why may involve Connor deciding he's playing BB vs Baseball. Considering Williams is #2 PG now, a definite decision by Connor towards BB might logically move CW to the door.
Understand people wanting a quick athletic PG skill set. But the only one of those we currently have offered that I know of is Tre Wood in 2018. If a scholarship opened up for someone to go with Wieskamp that year, perhaps Wood wood be mentioned more.
Understand people wanting a quick athletic PG skill set. But the only one of those we currently have offered that I know of is Tre Wood in 2018. If a scholarship opened up for someone to go with Wieskamp that year, perhaps Wood wood be mentioned more.
All I'm gonna say is Christian better help the team more than just defensively or GTHO. Be like a Nicholas Baer off the bench, don't slow the tempo down
11.7 scholarships are distributed to up to 27 players. The roster limit is 35, and the remainder must be walk-ons.
I agree that Bohannon brings a lot to the floor, and wasn't suggesting that we replace him, because he has limited defensive skills. I also agree that we will get better at help defense, as JBo and the young bigs gain experience playing together. But, if we add another "PG", which doesn't seem likely, we need that player to be at least an above-average defender. Having JBo, Pete, and sometimes even Ellingson on the floor together, left us helpless on defense. The Hawks had to be incredibly productive on the offensive end to make up for how easy it was for quality guards to break down our defense. Fran tried to mix defenses to cover up this problem, but teams with quality guards and a good coach still got a lot of easy baskets. A perimeter of JBo, a new guy who can play good on-ball defense, and Moss/Baer, would be a major improvement. Maybe if Moss played with a little more fire and used his driving skills to break down defenses more often, a perimeter of JBo, Moss, and Baer could give us what I am looking for...
I would not be surprised to see Conner get a lot of time at the point. allowing JBo some time off and at the 2. This could also allow Moss to play the 3 from time to time. He will not and should not redshirt in my opinion. I also see Moss/Baer at the 3 allowing more minutes for Dailey.
Good luck to CW if true. I think it is best for the kid(find somewhere he plays big minutes), and best for the program.
does anyone remember the name of the PG Iowa recruited really late in the year last year around the same time as Vital? Iowa didnt recruit him too heavily and he wasnt all that known which makes this difficult. I think his last name was Armstrong and he was from the east coast. His film was pretty impressive and I know he mulled over the idea of prep school for a year. Curious to see where he ended up. If anyone could help with the name that would be great.
he played in the same league as Christian but it wasnt him. They were recruited around the same time as each other
I would add rebounding out of the zone is poor, so even if you hold opponent to lower shooting percentage, you give more 2nd chances. Then you also have the occasional Indiana's that go off on you with 3pt shooting. I think teams with shot blockers/exceptional rebounding centers/guards can extend the zone better to 3pt line and still guard the paint and rebound. Oregon seems to have a good defense playing part time zone and playing faster pace like us.
CW's improvement, or lack thereof, has nothing do with Uhl. I think Christian has accepted his role on the team, takes coaching, works hard and wants to get better.
I am going to vehemently disagree with you and say he was probably as good as there is in the country at this particular skill. Did you notice how many he threes he shot behind a screen?
Maybe because he's only a sophomore??? If you want to look back at players who have underwhelmed during their sophomore year at Iowa under Fran, it's a pretty extensive list.
Basabe, Clemmons, and Jok all hit slumps during their sophomore year and got criticized heavily on these boards. As it turned out, it's a good thing that none of them transferred
