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Russia Requests U.S. Assistance To Bomb ISIS Oil Tankers. U.S. Says NO

Any person driving an oil truck for ISIS is not an innocent civilian and they should be destroyed along with the trucks. If they're in an ISIS truck, they're ISIS.

It is part of the State Department strategy to bring jobs to the jihadis?
 
And the blind-faith partisan replies. Thank you, Mr. Helper! Not sure exactly what your bogus beef is. You validated in your post that mine was correct when you mentioned Bush lauded it. I loathe the war criminals, Bush 1 & 2. But, to the point, I meant these sanctions:



And Bill Richardson:



Do you want to get into another thread where we know Bush was telling known lies at the time he was selling to America the need for war? Same goes for Bush the elder. All lies.

Soooo...you were OK with Saddam acquiring wmd's? You danced around the question.
 
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The cost is 12000 trucks making it into Turkey to help fund isis.
The leaflet warning to isis members running oil is just one example of trying to fight a civilized war vs a non civilized enemy. And if you think dropping leaflets before we bomb them is going to make them like us, you're a bigger idiot than I thought.

Complete...total...utter...bullshyte. They dropped the leaflets minutes before attacking the convoy. Would you like to try again? What was the cost of dropping the leaflets?
 
Soooo...you were OK with Saddam acquiring wmd's? You danced around the question.
I didn't dance around anything. You're trying desperately, out of party loyalty (how repulsive) to morph this into something else because you can't defend 'your guy'. How pitiful.

The whole WMD thing was a crock by D & R. Besides, we have them, don't we? Are you familiar with what we do in Fort Dietrick? Who said we should have a monopoly on them?
 
I didn't dance around anything. You're trying desperately, out of party loyalty (how repulsive) to morph this into something else because you can't defend 'your guy'. How pitiful.

The whole WMD thing was a crock by D & R. Besides, we have them, don't we? Are you familiar with what we do in Fort Dietrick? Who said we should have a monopoly on them?

This has nothing to do with party. I haven't even expressed an opinion. Go bàck and check. But...just so we're clear...you had no problem with Saddam acquiring nukes. At least you answered the question.
 
Just exactly what do you think was the cost of the warning? You think the trucks took evasive action? Serpentine!!! Or maybe they turned on their cloaking devices?

This is the biggest reason why many cons make poor CnC's...they're just not too smart.

OK genius. Your answer is they switch up tactics and deliver at different times and places. Stagger trucks and such.
 
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Complete...total...utter...bullshyte. They dropped the leaflets minutes before attacking the convoy. Would you like to try again? What was the cost of dropping the leaflets?
So what is the point in dropping them? To spare the drivers life, correct? Why the eff are we trying to fight an enemy like this by sparing someones life who is running oil for isis? It's not like these are poor truck drivers just looking to make a living. The drivers ate isis members. They are the worst forms of human life on the planet. Warning them to get out of the truck before we bomb it is symbolic of how Obama is choosing to combat this enemy. Thank goodness he wasn't in office during WW2, we'd all be speaking German.
 
So what is the point in dropping them? To spare the drivers life, correct? Why the eff are we trying to fight an enemy like this by sparing someones life who is running oil for isis? It's not like these are poor truck drivers just looking to make a living. The drivers ate isis members. They are the worst forms of human life on the planet. Warning them to get out of the truck before we bomb it is symbolic of how Obama is choosing to combat this enemy. Thank goodness he wasn't in office during WW2, we'd all be speaking German.


DId the Germans drop leaflets before they bombed Pearl Harbor? :D
 
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So what is the point in dropping them? To spare the drivers life, correct? Why the eff are we trying to fight an enemy like this by sparing someones life who is running oil for isis? It's not like these are poor truck drivers just looking to make a living. The drivers ate isis members. They are the worst forms of human life on the planet. Warning them to get out of the truck before we bomb it is symbolic of how Obama is choosing to combat this enemy. Thank goodness he wasn't in office during WW2, we'd all be speaking German.

It is the opinion of our military leaders that the drivers are, in fact, civilians. We have no problem killing ISIS members, which makes it weird that this us so confusing to people.
 
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It is the opinion of our military leaders that the drivers are, in fact, civilians. We have no problem killing ISIS members, which makes it weird that thus us so confusing to people.
Civilians is a pretty foggy term when talking about isis but I get it. Killing oil rig drivers sucks. But so does doing nothing and letting isis grow their infrastructure and finances.
Killing isis members in occasional precision strikes in one here, one there style isn't going to amount to crap when we're talking about a force of over 200,000 fighters. We're going to have to get serious eventually, our current cic just clearly isn't the guy to do it.
 
Civilians is a pretty foggy term when talking about isis but I get it. Killing oil rig drivers sucks. But so does doing nothing and letting isis grow their infrastructure and finances.
Killing isis members in occasional precision strikes in one here, one there style isn't going to amount to crap when we're talking about a force of over 200,000 fighters. We're going to have to get serious eventually, our current cic just clearly isn't the guy to do it.
Here's the paradox- You never "Kill ISIS", okay? In fact, the more you try to subdue these people with force, the stronger their level of retaliation, their resolve, their numbers, their overall success will become. Every single time the US has interfered with these people, in any way, they have gotten themselves deeper into the quicksand.
 
It is the opinion of our military leaders that the drivers are, in fact, civilians. We have no problem killing ISIS members, which makes it weird that this us so confusing to people.

I'm going to guess this is not the consensus opinion. Instead the Commander and Chief along with the State Department agreed upon this idea. ISIS is a terrorist organization and not a formal military. Those that work for ISIS smuggling oil, drugs or arms are members of ISIS. You think that ISIS employs infidels to deliver their oil?
 
The Saudis are a serious problem, but it's hard to see how or why they'd care about this. Care to explain?
the Saudis have run the world's oil forever, even in turkey and syria. and Russia and china. Obama went over to Saudi land and bowed to them, and told them it was ok to undercut texas and usa oil, and put the yanks out of business. he also went to iran and told them to nuke the usa. so Obama is on board with ruining our oil economy and then nuking us. see now?
 
The fact that our government has allowed ISIS to freely move oil into Turkey and finance ISIS terror operations is all a thoughtful person needs to know to understand what is really going on.
Not sure where you are going with this comment.

Turkey is dealing with its rebellious Kurds under the haze of the war against ISIS. They are also happy enough to get cut-rate oil deliveries (and don't care about the source). But I see no reason to think they are actively helping ISIS, if that is what you are suggesting.
 
Not sure where you are going with this comment.

Turkey is dealing with its rebellious Kurds under the haze of the war against ISIS. They are also happy enough to get cut-rate oil deliveries (and don't care about the source). But I see no reason to think they are actively helping ISIS, if that is what you are suggesting.
Obama has made it clear on many occasions that he will fund al q and isis rebels, fund them, support them. and Hillary was gun running through turkey to isis in Syria when she got our americans killed in Benghazi to cover it all up.
 
I'm going to guess this is not the consensus opinion. Instead the Commander and Chief along with the State Department agreed upon this idea. ISIS is a terrorist organization and not a formal military. Those that work for ISIS smuggling oil, drugs or arms are members of ISIS. You think that ISIS employs infidels to deliver their oil?

You don't seem to grasp that not all Myslims are members of ISIS.

And your hunch about the military leaders thoughts don't have a logical foundation. We clearly have no problem killing ISIS fighters - we do it every day. So why would we not kill the drivers if we thought they aren't civilians?
 
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You don't seem to grasp that not all Myslims are members of ISIS.

And your hunch about the military leaders thoughts don't have a logical foundation. We clearly have no problem killing ISIS fighters - we do it every day. So why would we not kill the drivers if we thought they aren't civilians?
bull crap, they fund isis fighters, they do it every day. Hillary got caught giving them weapons and had to kill americans to cover it up
they just tell you they kill a few to make it seem like they got a handle on this problem. oh, they got a handle on it alright!
 
Just more evidence that Obama is too religiously involved to make decisions regarding the war against radical Islam
this. putin knows Obama is buddies with the muzzies, thus putin just exposes it for all the world to see

nothing to see here
 
Here's the paradox- You never "Kill ISIS", okay? In fact, the more you try to subdue these people with force, the stronger their level of retaliation, their resolve, their numbers, their overall success will become. Every single time the US has interfered with these people, in any way, they have gotten themselves deeper into the quicksand.
The same was said of the Japenese in WW2 as well as the Nazis.
We get deeper in the quicksand bc our politicians are unwilling to do what is required to finish the job.
 
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So Saddam not getting WMD's, which he already had (gassed the Kurds and Iranians) was worth killing 500k kids?

More lol. Saddam gassed the Kurds with our aid while he was our ally. We tried to cover for him. Those wmd's were worthless in 2001. BUT that does indicate a willingness to USE wmd's on his part. So were YOU willing to let him develop nukes?
 
So what is the point in dropping them? To spare the drivers life, correct? Why the eff are we trying to fight an enemy like this by sparing someones life who is running oil for isis? It's not like these are poor truck drivers just looking to make a living. The drivers ate isis members. They are the worst forms of human life on the planet. Warning them to get out of the truck before we bomb it is symbolic of how Obama is choosing to combat this enemy. Thank goodness he wasn't in office during WW2, we'd all be speaking German.

Pretty simple...if you think about it. See if you can manage it rather than having the obvious pointed out.
 
Pretty simple...if you think about it. See if you can manage it rather than having the obvious pointed out.
We both know the why. Your refusal to state it says a lot though. The execution and results in dealing with isis so far is proving my point that Obama is incapable of dealing with an enemy like this. Code pink hippies just aren't up to the task.
 
We both know the why. Your refusal to state it says a lot though. The execution and results in dealing with isis so far is proving my point that Obama is incapable of dealing with an enemy like this. Code pink hippies just aren't up to the task.

Didn't really expect someone with such a simplistic world view to figure it out. Not surprising at all.
 
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Here's the paradox- You never "Kill ISIS", okay? In fact, the more you try to subdue these people with force, the stronger their level of retaliation, their resolve, their numbers, their overall success will become. Every single time the US has interfered with these people, in any way, they have gotten themselves deeper into the quicksand.
All one has to do is open up a history book and the answers are all there in black and white, but then one would have to think, reason and understand the situation. Its a lot easier to go all caveman and kill as many as you can and let the next generations make the mistakes over and over and over
 
Again...the point is that you are unable to discern the obvious. It's entertaining watching you try to think.
Good grief, just show your cards already. We all know the talking points and liberal justification for this so save the bs please.
It's pretty clear you know the way we're pussy footing around this conflict is stupid, you just can't seem to help but justify any actions your messiah takes.
 
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Here's the paradox- You never "Kill ISIS", okay? In fact, the more you try to subdue these people with force, the stronger their level of retaliation, their resolve, their numbers, their overall success will become. Every single time the US has interfered with these people, in any way, they have gotten themselves deeper into the quicksand.
Nuke them and lets see how well they multiply, you and I both know it will come down to that sooner or later.
 
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